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Abu Stij wrote:

CCP Mintchip wrote:

Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup!

CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

I am far from one to like you nor do I actually hate you, but that said, this post is pretty much evidence that your attitude isn't going to be helpful at all in this community.

You've made a promise of "more updates and more information is on the horizon", which is basically CCP's way of saying "yeah sure, we'll get to it" which is exactly the same sort of attitude that has come from CCP in the past which lead to this thread. This isn't something CCP isn't known for doing, they did it in EVE for a good while and actually realized that they should communicate with the players more.

The added "cheer up buttercup" is needless and, to some, it comes across as if you're talking to a child and not someone who is a customer. I can see where you want to make the OP feel good about the game, but don't let the ambiguity of your words lead to you coming across as condescending.

In your two years of playing EVE, you had to have at least seen the EVE-O forums once or twice, and in which case you would have seen the posts Guard, Navigator, Falcon, Eterne etc. make, they never let themselves come across as condescending. Hell, Xhagen came across condescending on the EVE-O forums in your "I work for CCP now" thread and the players chastised him over it, because its bad form and makes you look like you're of the Incarna-era mindset CCP has tried to correct over the past few years. Being that out of touch with your community in a game like EVE and, conceptually, DUST is just a bad business move. These games are niche and attract niche players, when you start mistreating them, you're basically throwing away your base which is where your money comes from, especially your paycheck.

I'm not sure what qualifications you had that got you the position nor does it make any difference at this point. I get you're having a blast in Iceland and stealing FoxFour's phone to post on his twitter, its cool I get you want to have fun at work, we all do. But when you're on these forums, you know your e-office, for the love that is holy follow this advice:

If you're just going to empty-post, don't bother posting. You're just fueling the "CCP doesn't provide any information and makes false promises" that you, as a Community Representative, should be trying to fix.

We have players here going on a year of playing this game, and know a lot of the issues. These people have been patient while CCP does this, or that to improve the game. When you come in and just say "yeah we'll totally do that!" months after that same thing was said, it's not helpful whatsoever and only leads to others pointing out that your role, or possibly you in particular, are not needed nor helpful to the situation.

AKCP Scion Lex wrote:

Maybe you need a dust csm? Get some players up to iceland and chat with them about where things are going. I would suggest the ones that arent impressed. They probably have the best ideas. I'll keep playing cause there is jack going on in my wormhole, but dont know if I can consider dust an a real mmo. right now its simply filler between ops. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. with 4 eve accts paid yearly you get enough of my cash. You better step it up if you want more.

They have that, its the CPM which was appointed by CCP until the first elections take place. They have, in some ways, been useful but in others they haven't been able to provide any details on matters due to either NDA, or CCP just not working with them or giving the information.

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Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 438	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:44:00 - [61] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Sony threw CCP under the bus with the announcement of PS2, among other games, coming to the PS4. Because Dust 514 is an absolute disaster when you compare it to Planetside 2... Or any popular FPS's in general... Yes even the "FPS THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED" is better.
Doctor Nihk D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:48:00 - [62] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza but you basically tell Mintchip to go kitten herself when she posts? Really? Jenza actually plays dust.. Her opnions are valid.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1893	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:50:00 - [63] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza but you basically tell Mintchip to go kitten herself when she posts? Really? Jenza at least has played the game before.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 296	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:51:00 - [64] - Quote Doctor Nihk wrote: Cosgar wrote: Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza but you basically tell Mintchip to go kitten herself when she posts? Really? Jenza actually plays dust.. Her opnions are valid. Mintchips opinions are more valid than poopy pants
AKCP Scion Lex LEX Investments 22	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:05:00 - [65] - Quote All I have to say is this isnt eve. The people here don't have so much invested. They also don't have much reason to wait on ccp. There are a million FPSs out there, more than a few are just a click or a disk away. You guys have done a great job of bringing eve back from incarna....wth is going on here? Maybe you need to chat with bungie. From the difficulty of even getting a squad in this game I would say its in need of some work. When you add someone to contacts you should be able to tell if they are online or not just by looking. There should be a better recruitment methods. Perhaps like the ingame recruitment window eve has. Idk about anyone else, but I have had huge issues with the ingame coms not working consistantly. Honestly you need to drop the console entirely. Console players dont have the attention span for what you have in mind anyway. Maybe you need a dust csm? Get some players up to iceland and chat with them about where things are going. I would suggest the ones that arent impressed. They probably have the best ideas. I'll keep playing cause there is jack going on in my wormhole, but dont know if I can consider dust an a real mmo. right now its simply filler between ops. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. with 4 eve accts paid yearly you get enough of my cash. You better step it up if you want more.
Abu Stij Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 180	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:41:00 - [66] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I am far from one to like you nor do I actually hate you, but that said, this post is pretty much evidence that your attitude isn't going to be helpful at all in this community. You've made a promise of "more updates and more information is on the horizon", which is basically CCP's way of saying "yeah sure, we'll get to it" which is exactly the same sort of attitude that has come from CCP in the past which lead to this thread. This isn't something CCP isn't known for doing, they did it in EVE for a good while and actually realized that they should communicate with the players more. The added "cheer up buttercup" is needless and, to some, it comes across as if you're talking to a child and not someone who is a customer. I can see where you want to make the OP feel good about the game, but don't let the ambiguity of your words lead to you coming across as condescending. In your two years of playing EVE, you had to have at least seen the EVE-O forums once or twice, and in which case you would have seen the posts Guard, Fozzie, Eterne etc. make, they never let themselves come across as condescending. Hell, Xhagen came across condescending on the EVE-O forums in your "Look at me I work for CCP now" and the players chastised him over it, because its bad form and makes you look like you're of the Incarna-era mindset CCP has tried to correct over the past few years. I'm not sure what qualifications you had that got you the position nor does it make any difference at this point. I get you're having a blast in Iceland and stealing FoxFour's phone to post on his twitter, its cool I get you want to have fun at work, we all do. But when you're on these forums, you know your e-office, for the love that is holy follow this advice: If you're just going to empty-post, don't bother posting. You're just fueling the "CCP doesn't provide any information and makes false promises" that you, as a Community Representative, should be trying to fix. We have players here going on a year of playing this game, and know a lot of the issues. These people have been patient while CCP does this, or that to "optimize" the game. When you come in and just say "yeah we'll totally do that!" months after that same thing was said, it's not helpful whatsoever. AKCP Scion Lex wrote: Maybe you need a dust csm? Get some players up to iceland and chat with them about where things are going. I would suggest the ones that arent impressed. They probably have the best ideas. I'll keep playing cause there is jack going on in my wormhole, but dont know if I can consider dust an a real mmo. right now its simply filler between ops. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. with 4 eve accts paid yearly you get enough of my cash. You better step it up if you want more. They have that, its the CPM which was appointed by CCP until the first elections take place. They have, in some ways, been useful but in others they haven't been able to provide any details on matters due to either NDA, or CCP just not working with them or giving the information.
Sampson David Molon Labe. League of Infamy 23	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:21:00 - [67] - Quote Abu Stij wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I am far from one to like you nor do I actually hate you, but that said, this post is pretty much evidence that your attitude isn't going to be helpful at all in this community. You've made a promise of "more updates and more information is on the horizon", which is basically CCP's way of saying "yeah sure, we'll get to it" which is exactly the same sort of attitude that has come from CCP in the past which lead to this thread. This isn't something CCP isn't known for doing, they did it in EVE for a good while and actually realized that they should communicate with the players more. The added "cheer up buttercup" is needless and, to some, it comes across as if you're talking to a child and not someone who is a customer. I can see where you want to make the OP feel good about the game, but don't let the ambiguity of your words lead to you coming across as condescending. In your two years of playing EVE, you had to have at least seen the EVE-O forums once or twice, and in which case you would have seen the posts Guard, Navigator, Falcon, Eterne etc. make, they never let themselves come across as condescending. Hell, Xhagen came across condescending on the EVE-O forums in your "I work for CCP now" thread and the players chastised him over it, because its bad form and makes you look like you're of the Incarna-era mindset CCP has tried to correct over the past few years. Being that out of touch with your community in a game like EVE and, conceptually, DUST is just a bad business move. These games are niche and attract niche players, when you start mistreating them, you're basically throwing away your base which is where your money comes from, especially your paycheck. I'm not sure what qualifications you had that got you the position nor does it make any difference at this point. I get you're having a blast in Iceland and stealing FoxFour's phone to post on his twitter, its cool I get you want to have fun at work, we all do. But when you're on these forums, you know your e-office, for the love that is holy follow this advice: If you're just going to empty-post, don't bother posting. You're just fueling the "CCP doesn't provide any information and makes false promises" that you, as a Community Representative, should be trying to fix. We have players here going on a year of playing this game, and know a lot of the issues. These people have been patient while CCP does this, or that to improve the game. When you come in and just say "yeah we'll totally do that!" months after that same thing was said, it's not helpful whatsoever and only leads to others pointing out that your role, or possibly you in particular, are not needed nor helpful to the situation. AKCP Scion Lex wrote: Maybe you need a dust csm? Get some players up to iceland and chat with them about where things are going. I would suggest the ones that arent impressed. They probably have the best ideas. I'll keep playing cause there is jack going on in my wormhole, but dont know if I can consider dust an a real mmo. right now its simply filler between ops. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. with 4 eve accts paid yearly you get enough of my cash. You better step it up if you want more. They have that, its the CPM which was appointed by CCP until the first elections take place. They have, in some ways, been useful but in others they haven't been able to provide any details on matters due to either NDA, or CCP just not working with them or giving the information. Seeing mintchip's comment at the beginning of this thread was also very concerning as well. The community is getting fed up with comments like that. We understand that your trying to keep it light hearted but were past that point. We want real information communicated to us. Like actuall time lines or internal discussions on how you plan to apporoach our cocnerns and comments. Yes I know about the weekly feedback/bug reports, but thats a shadow of what should be communicated. Foxfour has been great with communicating with us but that isn't his main job. That job should be left up to the community team. You promised better communication at the beginning of the year, but CCP has yet to fulfill that promise with the expection with the month of april which was just a clear lead in to fanfest, EvE ten year anniversary, and the launch of dust. You stated that your hoping to fix the bridge of communication between the community and the devs. How do you plan on doing that? What is the internal philosphy on communicating and listening to the community. i like many others in here would be more then willing to join the dust community team and help with communication (with a salary associated with it) . Where you at mintchip?

CCP Mintchip C C P C C P Alliance 181	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:33:00 - [68] - Quote Hey there! I appreciate your concern and I've stated before that we are working towards a system to make what's going on behind the scenes more visible to you. I am new here; so my posts may be what you've seen before, but ultimately they are our promise to a more transparent future. Also! I am in daily working hours in Iceland, I will have a USTZ when I am back in SF :D So until then, I'll be posting on an Icelandic time-schedule! Which means I'm going to bed now :P Thank you for your feedback, I am sorry again that you feel the way you do - hopefully there's action and you'll be very very pleased with me. :) We will meet again! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep


CCP Falcon C C P C C P Alliance 274	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:36:00 - [69] - Quote Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3


CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 23600	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:43:00 - [70] - Quote I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go


AKCP Scion Lex LEX Investments 22	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:44:00 - [71] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 526	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:45:00 - [72] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go You don't treat people like 2-year-olds.
D legendary hero One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 145	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:49:00 - [73] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go thats because your just awesome bro
InsidiousN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 64	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:54:00 - [74] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go As soon as you release an actual hard timeline of what you're actually working on, I'll be sure to interact with it.
Sampson David Molon Labe. League of Infamy 23	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:06:00 - [75] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go I do beleive in you guys and CCP as a whole. I like your post that you do and your interaction with the community even if its a friendly troll. We just want to know what is going on inside the studios. It's almost like having a girlfriend that won't tell you whats wrong when she's mad at you and just says "well you should know what my problem is." elaborate on what you mean by saying that its awkard that so few of us post long well thought out post. i see a ton of them. The only reason i'm even a little irriatated about this situation is that at the beginning of the year you stated your working on improving communication but its six month later and still the same thing. I know that nothing happens instatnly but it shouldn't take six months to come up with a community communication program. Also who can be mad at FoxFour? . I will ask again. How do you plan on improving communication with the community, maybe we can help brainstorm with you guys?
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1286	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:09:00 - [76] - Quote AKCP Scion Lex wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though. Holy ****! I know Dust 514 can use some work, but did you have to bring Incarna into the argument?
PonyClause Rex TRAMADOL KNIGHTS 56	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:31:00 - [77] - Quote Going by the dev responses this thread is going to get locked for sure and all because a devote player / customer asked for some feed back and trolled by a dev What exactly did you expect to happen? Players are pissed off as it is you don't need to fuel the fire with childish remarks Get a grip or you will be -1 another player / customer
AKCP Scion Lex LEX Investments 23	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:36:00 - [78] - Quote Cosgar wrote: AKCP Scion Lex wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though. Holy ****! I know Dust 514 can use some work, but did you have to bring Incarna into the argument? Ya I did. That was a failure to communicate that would have continued if the eve player based hadn't freaked out. Keep in mind that if the players had done nothing I doubt we would have gotten the changes that we did. CCP is a talented lot, but history has shown they only respond when pushed. So I brought up incarna. Fact of the matter is they need to learn to respond faster on all fronts. I waited to try this game so they could work out the bugs....and they havent. That might be unreasonable to you, but they still have to compete with whats already on the market regardless of how many new features they are trying to carry. They create the toxic relationship with a low and inadequate response time...not us. Lets not forget we pay for thier homes, cars and what have you so I will bring up whatever i like. Love you CCP, but get on it.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 413	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:38:00 - [79] - Quote ITT: "Soon"
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 180	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:38:00 - [80] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza Hold the fuckmothering phone. WAT Who does that?

Novawolf McDustingham The514th The Official Mintchip Fanclub 208	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:42:00 - [81] - Quote Hey, everybody! Respect teh 'chipper, our little fireband of Dev/Player interaction goodness. Go, Mintchip, go!
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 413	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:48:00 - [82] - Quote pathetic
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 557	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:49:00 - [83] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go You don't treat people like 2-year-olds. You do when they act like 2-year-olds.
BL4CK FRIAR HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 76	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:09:00 - [84] - Quote Chris Roberts and the Cloud Imperium group update their community on a weekly if not more basis complete with video logs, fiction, art and so much more on a budget of 10million. What's your excuse CCP?
OliasSunsoo BetaMax. CRONOS. 18	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:26:00 - [85] - Quote The fact that the vocal majority is so up in arms and disappointed with Dust to date, makes for the possibility that CCP is in fact doing the right thing by going about their business and building their game, their way and in their own good time. If I seriously had any substantial issues with Dust, I simply would not play it. I enjoy playing it, so I throw CCP some coin now and then. I like the fact that CCP is a private company, on an island, protected by Vikings. It will take more than this homely hoard to stop them from realizing their vision, I have played EVE long enough to appreciate that. The game mechanics, the immersion, all the broken things, to me, will simply be cast back into the fire and forged into something new. The passion and protectiveness those at CCP must certainly feel towards the living beast that is Tranquility must, no doubt, run deep. The reaction to the deployment of Icarna asked CCP to HTFU. With the release of Dust, it is CCP who is asking this new breed of console/PC playerbase to HTFU. Uninstall if you have too, but your toons will persist until you biomass. This game is free. Your time is your own, spend it wisely. As for me, I will be here. With a pistol to your face. You can trash my corp, my ceo, my alliance, even my gameplay. I'll still be here. With a pistol to your face.
zeroknexus DUST University Ivy League 5	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:30:00 - [86] - Quote Please CCP can you please answer the OP questions please. We can see that 3 Devs have read this thread (CCP Eterne, CCP Falcon and CCP Foxfour) because they have posted replies, BUT NO ANSWERS?? We (the players) all know certain things are broken/unbalanced in the game. We also all know, that you (the devs) know we know things are broken and unbalanced and have been asking 3 very simple questions. 1. What are you working to fix/balance right now. 2. What exactly are these fixes/balances. 3. When will you give us these fixes/balances (soon is not an acceptable answer). But you are unwilling for some reason to give us the answer. This of course is leading to more question, uncertainty, frustration, fear and in some cases anger. If you need to know how to achieve the level of communication for Dust514 we are asking for, then please go and speak to CCP Fozzie and look at how he operates on the EVE forums. Please give us some proper answers so we can stop posting the same questions over and over again. PLEASE
Fred Laurentson Laurentson INC StructureDamage 2	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:43:00 - [87] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go It's pretty simple: you've been here a while. You're a known quantity. CCP NewDev is always going to get a bit of attention while people try to work them out, find out what they are doing. ;) I think a lot of people are hoping that CCP hiring a new talkative person for DUST means we'll see more dev posts in general: one of the big things the community team do for DUST is poke Devs about relevant threads. I certainly am: it's very disappointing to have both forums open and compare how many blue posts there are, and the general nature of the conversation about game-impacting mechanics, art assets, etc. Things are a lot more conversational on the other side, and, in general, EVE's dev teams feel more joined-up. There's a lot less "that's not what my team does, I've no idea what the plan is" and a lot more "That's not what his team does: my team does that and we...". Still, you're all new as these things go, and in fairness the EVE devs are really good at the forum thing. You'll catch up, I'm sure!
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1327	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:54:00 - [88] - Quote InsidiousN wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go As soon as you release an actual hard timeline of what you're actually working on, I'll be sure to interact with it. right?
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 565	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:02:00 - [89] - Quote I made it to halfway through page two. At which point the over-entitled whine factor exceeded my pain threshold/gag reflex. We all know the issues, and it certainly doesn't hurt to remind/reinforce what the priority areas are. But a thread like less goes a long way towards destroying community credibility.
BL4CK FRIAR HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 80	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:09:00 - [90] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: I made it to halfway through page two. At which point the over-entitled whine factor exceeded my pain threshold/gag reflex. We all know the issues, and it certainly doesn't hurt to remind/reinforce what the priority areas are. But a thread like less goes a long way towards destroying community credibility. I know right, how dare a customer tell the person who wants their money what their expectations are.



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