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Somin Krais
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:22:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:You don't treat people like 2-year-olds.
I find this comment comical considering the quantity of temper tantrum posts that this forum houses.
Imagine sitting at a desk at CCP and reading through this sea of **** people post here. I've seen 2-year olds that behave better and have more patience.
The state of the game, bugs that need to be fixed, or not.. any member of CCP that has the patience and mental fortitude to not hunt every "ZOMG Your game sucks" poster down and murder them should be awarded.
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Taurion Bruni
Nightingale Logistics Pty Ltd
45
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:29:00 -
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CCP SoxFour wrote:I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me.
If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications.
/me shrugs
Home I go
no, keep posting, we need all the post we can get if we want to get you to 10,000,000 likes, SoxFour |
4447
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
748
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:52:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep
oh, your that girl on youtube... |
Novawolf McDustingham The514th
The Official Mintchip Fanclub
208
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:55:00 -
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4447 wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep oh, your that girl on youtube...
*you're |
4447
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
748
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:02:00 -
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Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote:4447 wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep oh, your that girl on youtube... *you're
Just seen your corp, LOL. |
Sparky Soline
RAFFICA Squadron
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:12:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have.
I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep
What do you mean by "soon"? Next month? Two weeks? In five days? Either way, please listen to us more, and wouldn't it be better if we heard whats coming (and preferably, when) so we stay in the game and get excited for the potential in Dust to become superb? I haven't a clue whats next. |
Sontie
Ill Omens EoN.
655
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:19:00 -
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Whoa when did /4chan infect this forum? Seriously, our community is some of the loudest, vilest ground of self important, self entitled keyboard jockeys I have ever seen in a gaming community. When did it become "cool" to be a **** on the internet? |
Abu Stij
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
182
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:20:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey there! I appreciate your concern and I've stated before that we are working towards a system to make what's going on behind the scenes more visible to you. I am new here; so my posts may be what you've seen before, but ultimately they are our promise to a more transparent future.
Also! I am in daily working hours in Iceland, I will have a USTZ when I am back in SF :D So until then, I'll be posting on an Icelandic time-schedule! Which means I'm going to bed now :P
Thank you for your feedback, I am sorry again that you feel the way you do - hopefully there's action and you'll be very very pleased with me. :) We will meet again!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep
Those tweets were in jest so take those with a grain of salt.
As for your role at CCP, it's understandable you're new and eager, but as I said it's far more important to make sure your message is as you intend it and not left to ambiguity in your message, nor the tone in which you're delivering it.
This is especially true after the community has routinely been made promises that have yet to live up to the words the CCP team has said, as well as the expectations the players were given for said promises.
CCP FoxFour wrote:I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me.
If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications.
/me shrugs
Home I go
You'll notice I pointed out other CCP staff who have posted on the different forums making the same mistakes, and simply saying that perhaps some fore-thought regarding what your post will be read as by the other side is a far better approach than what has been going on lately.
If you think it's personal attack on CCP Mintchip then, well all I can say is it's not.
Regarding your short posts getting long drawn out responses, I will provide that service to you shortly (even though I'm sure I've done it to you before). |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
343
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:34:00 -
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Sontie wrote:Whoa when did /4chan infect this forum? Seriously, our community is some of the loudest, vilest ground of self important, self entitled keyboard jockeys I have ever seen in a gaming community. When did it become "cool" to be a **** on the internet?
Mid-90's? |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
147
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Posted - 2013.06.11 06:51:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me.
If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications.
/me shrugs
Home I go You don't treat people like 2-year-olds. You do when they act like 2-year-olds.
when little children ask simple questions you give them a direct and satisfiying answr. because if you give them bullshit the next question is always "why?" and they will keep on asking until they know why. |
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hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.06.11 07:00:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have.
I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep We wont flay you alive if you talk to us like real people and not give us cookie cutter placations I mean really how hard would it be to post an announcement saying "Hey guys we know this that and the other thing are F'd and we have them prioritized in X Y Z order to be fixed and/or adjusted as need be" You wouldnt even have to post a time frame just the list of priorities and it would do so much towards getting some community good will
people are stupid and people are selfish Its not that I don't agree with you, but unfortunately the stupid selfish people have ruined companies on the idea that they can treat us like people and not mutant psychopaths |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
30
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Posted - 2013.06.11 07:14:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me.
If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications.
/me shrugs
Home I go
This game is fun, if it was not people wouldn't play it.
I think people get frustrated because we can see where this game CAN go to and what it CAN become but feel like progress is ......slow.
Get working SON!!
and when ps3 dies port this game to pc, hell enough of us are using mouse and keyboard anyway! |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
140
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Posted - 2013.06.11 08:21:00 -
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Sox4, I actually like you |
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CCP Falcon
C C P C C P Alliance
283
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Posted - 2013.06.11 09:10:00 -
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AKCP Scion Lex wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here.Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though.
We appreciate the fact that you've spent money in order to play DUST., and we're very grateful that you made the investment. We appreciate the fact that you have opinions on DUST, either positive or negative, that you would like to share. We also appreciate that you may want to use these forums to air your concerns directly to the developers.
However, in the same respect, there are rules here. Those rules include guidelines for good conduct to ensure that there are no personal attacks on our staff, or on other DUST 514 players.
Read them. Also understand them.
As said previously, we're more than open to criticism. This is one of the key ways that we'll improve DUST 514, by listening to our feedback from our players and acting accordingly. However, this takes time, and what we won't listen to in the meantime are bile filled rants that degenerate into personal attacks on our staff.
The situation is simple. Read the forum rules, understand them, and post accordingly.
We are aware of the concerns, and are more than willing to listen, but we will not tolerate attacks on our staff.
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Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2013.06.11 09:44:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:We appreciate the fact that you've spent money in order to play DUST., and we're very grateful that you made the investment. We appreciate the fact that you have opinions on DUST, either positive or negative, that you would like to share. We also appreciate that you may want to use these forums to air your concerns directly to the developers. However, in the same respect, there are rules here. Those rules include guidelines for good conduct to ensure that there are no personal attacks on our staff, or on other DUST 514 players. Read them. Also understand them. As said previously, we're more than open to criticism. This is one of the key ways that we'll improve DUST 514, by listening to our feedback from our players and acting accordingly. However, this takes time, and what we won't listen to in the meantime are bile filled rants that degenerate into personal attacks on our staff. The situation is simple. Read the forum rules, understand them, and post accordingly. We are aware of the concerns, and are more than willing to listen, but we will not tolerate attacks on our staff. Ah yes, Mr Falcon.
At this point I'd like to give the following advice to players tracking this thread (and forums).
If you are going to hang around on these forums I advise you to use a proxy service or use a completely different provider for your forum commentary than your gaming.
Of course it goes without saying you should create a completely separate PSN account for the forums that has never been associated with a Sony device.
Not all will be familiar with the EVE version of CCP or select employees, but based on the post above I will give you one guess where this kind of thing leads.
Keep your real forum accounts unbanned. Keep your game accounts unbanned. Still have your say.
Forget "attacks" CCP doesn't like hard questions and their version of "Public Relations" isn't that fluffy fox lad, it's attacking, crass and it's very personal.
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Bigglesworth McQueen
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
117
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Posted - 2013.06.11 09:50:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote: their version of "Public Relations" isn't that fluffy fox lad, it's attacking, crass and it's very personal.
All I have seen so far is complaints about complaints about complaints, and no actual answers.
We're going round in circles and the only ones who can break the cycle are the ones with the information. Looks to me like they're looking for punishment from the community, but then not tolerating it very well. |
RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
209
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Posted - 2013.06.11 09:56:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Delta 749 wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have.
I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep We wont flay you alive if you talk to us like real people and not give us cookie cutter placations I mean really how hard would it be to post an announcement saying "Hey guys we know this that and the other thing are F'd and we have them prioritized in X Y Z order to be fixed and/or adjusted as need be" You wouldnt even have to post a time frame just the list of priorities and it would do so much towards getting some community good will This is exactly the sort of thing we're working on getting out to you guys. I'm sorry if this has been pointed out already, but isn't this post just a load of crap? What do you mean GÇ£You're working on getting us informationGÇ¥? - surely you have an in house schedule you can just copy and paste to the forums to let us see for ourselves! |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1310
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Posted - 2013.06.11 09:58:00 -
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Boy, that escalated quickly... |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
67
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Posted - 2013.06.11 10:02:00 -
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Mean while back at CCP headquarters
Falcon: Hey guys ive just gave our customers some info on forum rules that will keep them busy for a while, ive bought us at least a few hours of peace |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
333
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Posted - 2013.06.11 10:07:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:Cyn Bruin wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Excuse me... Honey... but i'm done. CCP has literally screwed the pooch over the past year with all the dumb changes made to this game. I don't think I've ever played an FPS where the core mechanics were this fkd up. CCP Shanghai should feel bad. E3 is a stark reminder of just how bad and out of date DUST is... You were added as a CCP rep. how long ago? 1 week? So a response like what you gave is quite flippant and based in ignorance. Been here for 14months and the game still sucks... ^^ This post has been marked/reported as ranting. Enjoy your ban
I dont think he realy cares anymore mate, aand how sad you feel you have to report some one for saying how a lot of people feel. |
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
41
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Posted - 2013.06.11 10:23:00 -
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I was trying to get some information a week ago, if you like to have an objective conversation you can join me here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82879
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Sorry Wrong Chat
Phantom Universe Task Force Orion Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.06.11 10:24:00 -
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Good post CCP Falcon!
You get a "like it" form me ,-) |
Major Stewie
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.11 10:33:00 -
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just saw battlefield 4 on the live stream
they destroyed a pillar to collapsed a road to kill a tank
they have elevators
they collapsed the building that had the elevators |
meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
41
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Posted - 2013.06.11 10:39:00 -
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Major Stewie wrote:just saw battlefield 4 on the live stream
they destroyed a pillar to collapsed a road to kill a tank
they have elevators
they collapsed the building that had the elevators
I love destructing environment. Really this is a very big + for BF3 and 4. The maps "evolve" during a match and it feels different overtime, even if itGÇÖs the same map. Right now in dust I miss this feeling. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
103
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:55:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:Ah yes, Mr Falcon.
At this point I'd like to give the following advice to players tracking this thread (and forums).
If you are going to hang around on these forums I advise you to use a proxy service or use a completely different provider for your forum commentary than your gaming.
Of course it goes without saying you should create a completely separate PSN account for the forums that has never been associated with a Sony device.
Not all will be familiar with the EVE version of CCP or select employees, but based on the post above I will give you one guess where this kind of thing leads.
Keep your real forum accounts unbanned. Keep your game accounts unbanned. Still have your say.
Forget "attacks" CCP doesn't like hard questions and their version of "Public Relations" isn't that fluffy fox lad, it's attacking, crass and it's very personal.
Ooooooooooor you could post constructively on your main and not be the AIDS of the internet. That's also an option. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
181
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:26:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Allah's Snackbar wrote:Ah yes, Mr Falcon.
At this point I'd like to give the following advice to players tracking this thread (and forums).
If you are going to hang around on these forums I advise you to use a proxy service or use a completely different provider for your forum commentary than your gaming.
Of course it goes without saying you should create a completely separate PSN account for the forums that has never been associated with a Sony device.
Not all will be familiar with the EVE version of CCP or select employees, but based on the post above I will give you one guess where this kind of thing leads.
Keep your real forum accounts unbanned. Keep your game accounts unbanned. Still have your say.
Forget "attacks" CCP doesn't like hard questions and their version of "Public Relations" isn't that fluffy fox lad, it's attacking, crass and it's very personal. Ooooooooooor you could post constructively on your main and not be the AIDS of the internet. That's also an option. Problem is, thats very subjective... you could be doing a onstructive critical post, that if a gm is on a bad mood and doesnt like your guts, or what you are inquiring, you are done homie. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
103
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:46:00 -
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Rupture Reaperson wrote:Problem is, thats very subjective... you could be doing a onstructive critical post, that if a gm is on a bad mood and doesnt like your guts, or what you are inquiring, you are done homie.
Yeah, that would be terrible if this problem existed. |
Fred Laurentson
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
3
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:58:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Rupture Reaperson wrote:Problem is, thats very subjective... you could be doing a onstructive critical post, that if a gm is on a bad mood and doesnt like your guts, or what you are inquiring, you are done homie. Yeah, that would be terrible if this problem existed.
Yeah. The Dev's don't post enough and ignore a lot of threads, fail to telegraph their current direction and generally act like a company that isn't CCP... but they are not vengeful or petty.
Some people just have no calibration on what it looks like to post badly, and get all confused when it turns out they are bad at post. |
Absolute Idiom II
BetaMax. CRONOS.
110
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:16:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:AKCP Scion Lex wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here.Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though. We appreciate the fact that you've spent money in order to play DUST., and we're very grateful that you made the investment. We appreciate the fact that you have opinions on DUST, either positive or negative, that you would like to share. We also appreciate that you may want to use these forums to air your concerns directly to the developers. However, in the same respect, there are rules here. Those rules include guidelines for good conduct to ensure that there are no personal attacks on our staff, or on other DUST 514 players. Read them. Also understand them. As said previously, we're more than open to criticism. This is one of the key ways that we'll improve DUST 514, by listening to our feedback from our players and acting accordingly. However, this takes time, and what we won't listen to in the meantime are bile filled rants that degenerate into personal attacks on our staff. The situation is simple. Read the forum rules, understand them, and post accordingly. We are aware of the concerns, and are more than willing to listen, but we will not tolerate attacks on our staff.
I'd like to point the community team leadership towards this article about online communities http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/BuildingCommunitieswithSo.html
It has several interesting and pertinent things to say about moderation. |
Somin Krais
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
79
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Posted - 2013.06.11 16:55:00 -
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I'd like to point the community team leadership to the "lock post" button. Unless you have more faith, than me, that anything good will come out of further posts. |
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