the only way that HAV s get balanced and more viable is to:

A: temporarily remove AV ADV and protos(this means that all AV weapons are stuck to standart like tanks are) and remove the 60 percent HP buff to LAV s and give 20 percent HP buff to dropships

or

B: give HAV s ADV and prototipe variants

simple

Tanks are not meant to be cost effective, they're meant to kill stuff that otherwise doesn't get killed fast enough or cause a threat that has to be dealt with in order for the other side to win.

If you really want to ride around all day in your tank, ask your corp for some of that PC income.

So as a tanker I run only tanks. The cheapest one I can run without losing to an AV sneeze is 600k. Most matches average about 200k, so does that mean that CCP thinks that you should be able to go at least 3 matches without losing a tank? Or that tankers shouldn't only run tanks despite their high sp cost?

i didnt know tankers could only use tanks?

Man if only you guys could run around as an infantry and get kills that way...too bad

CCP seriously needs to fix that

Tanks are not meant to be cost effective, they're meant to kill stuff that otherwise doesn't get killed fast enough or cause a threat that has to be dealt with in order for the other side to win.

If you really want to ride around all day in your tank, ask your corp for some of that PC income.

My 'expensive' AV setup is a suit worth about 14k with a medium tier swarm launcher. 3 HAV in one match

Thanks.

P.S.actually felt sorry for the poor guy with the tanks, 2-14 for the match. Normally he would have done ok on that map, but my team just had a decent amount of AV. Having been on the receiving end of players dropping a nano hive and spamming Hacked AV (ex-o or whatever they are) it really isn't funny.

WTF did CCP make the Logi LAV harder to kill than a medium level tank. Even a basic LAV that keeps moving is going to last longer and get more kills. Seriously, what?

that's when you say you'll post nude for ISK like a now certain CCP member not to be named, and get all the ISK you'll need for months.

So as a tanker I run only tanks. The cheapest one I can run without losing to an AV sneeze is 600k. Most matches average about 200k, so does that mean that CCP thinks that you should be able to go at least 3 matches without losing a tank? Or that tankers shouldn't only run tanks despite their high sp cost?

Ohh youre so cute, complaining because you cant recover the cost of your tank.
You have never tried to make profit with Dropships ONLY havent you?

yes and I make a great taxi. just wish I would get wp for the MCRU.

Terrible, Terrible, terrible.

Leave armor alone, buff shield rep and exp resistance more, make it as fast if not faster than armor. .. seriously my armor tank drives faster backwards.

Reduce av nade range tracking and dmg or increase cost to 80k for proto. Also make them have their own skill tree.

Swarms...... reduce available ammo and locking range. I should not be sniped from across the map by invisible swarms that do 3000 dmg to my 58% dmg res tank.

Forge, reduce rof on assault variants or lower dmg a bit. It should not shoot as fast and hit as hard as a railgun.

Increase all av prices to balance the cost of losing a tank.

The tank in dust is no longer a rolling death machine to be feared by all. It is an annoyance and easily handled by 1 person with advanced av.

So as a tanker I run only tanks. The cheapest one I can run without losing to an AV sneeze is 600k. Most matches average about 200k, so does that mean that CCP thinks that you should be able to go at least 3 matches without losing a tank? Or that tankers shouldn't only run tanks despite their high sp cost?

If had to balance it would buff AV grenade damage much more, but limit them to one throw and buff the other AV options to compensate and make them all very slow to restock from any source.

Increase Vehicle HP but lower their ability to self repair.

Terrible, Terrible, terrible.

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Forge, reduce rof on assault variants or lower dmg a bit. It should not shoot as fast and hit as hard as a railgun.

Increase all av prices to balance the cost of losing a tank.

The tank in dust is no longer a rolling death machine to be feared by all. It is an annoyance and easily handled by 1 person with advanced av.

One guy with Av nades and nanohives can blow up most tanks by himself, yeah so he uses 100,000 Isk worth of Equipment and blows up a 3 million isk tank. That's absolutely brilliant, but a good tanker wont just stand there

If had to balance it would buff AV grenade damage much more, but limit them to one throw and buff the other AV options to compensate and make them all very slow to restock from any source.

Increase Vehicle HP but lower their ability to self repair.

So as a tanker I run only tanks. The cheapest one I can run without losing to an AV sneeze is 600k. Most matches average about 200k, so does that mean that CCP thinks that you should be able to go at least 3 matches without losing a tank? Or that tankers shouldn't only run tanks despite their high sp cost?

The charge-to-fire-time on my Assault Forge is over nine times longer than a large rail cannon. It has a range limit, sixteen shots (make 'em count), weapon shake, no zoom (much less an aiming mode), and best of all I get to rely on my sub-machine gun when some shot-gunner scout with the crazy eyes comes hunting.

I dont want to beleive this dude still calls for Av buff. 4Dmg mod swarms hit 3500 to armor, you must be , I don't know any words to describe you.

Get this dude off CPM, please for the love of god

rails have RoF limiter that forge don't have btw thats 1.8 seconds till the next shot so go HTFU with your nine times BS. you can fire just as fast with maxed skills.