DUST Search - Nerf 514: Logistics

DJINN leukoplast wrote:

Calogis are fine, a single std flux makes us 100% vulnerable.

We can stack all the shields in the world, but just ONE std flux puts us on our knees.

Stacking (or simply using) armor plates is mostly worthless, as we already have gimped movement speed which means assaults can out-strafe us easily. And when it comes to 1v1 gun-game, strafe speed is king. So adding more armor is just going to slow us down to a snails pace and really isn't a viable option.

Oh and did I forget to mention that I had to put something like 700-800k SP into catalyzers (advanced, not even proto) just so I can sprint as fast as the default speed of a assault? I can't even fit a single enhanced catalyzer on my proto suit without two PG boosters and one CPU. 3/4 of my low-power slots are taken up by PG/CPU enhancements, and I am level 4 on both electronics and engineering with plenty of other CPU/PG reducing core skills upgraded.

Calogis are fine, CCP just needs to give assaults back their second equipment slot on their proto suits.

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GVGISDEAD Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.06.06 03:22:00 - [1] - Quote I would like to inform you that you are in the list of the NERF hammer. That is likely to include most if not all races into the equation yes I am looking at you Caldari Logi, Gallente Logi and Minmatar Logi. My magic eyes can already perceive threads of respecs, QQs and /sobs.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1758	Posted - 2013.06.06 03:24:00 - [2] - Quote I'm looking at my Amarr suit, and I honestly don't see how they could gimp it more... lol... optimism.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4918	Posted - 2013.06.06 03:27:00 - [3] - Quote Actually everything is subject to the nerf bat, its all in the question as to 'when'
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 188	Posted - 2013.06.06 03:44:00 - [4] - Quote Really?! This ol' chestnut again
GVGISDEAD Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.06.06 03:54:00 - [5] - Quote pretty soon I bet :3
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 63	Posted - 2013.06.06 04:04:00 - [6] - Quote Logis... force em to fit either side arms or MD and all is well
GVGISDEAD Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.06.06 04:49:00 - [7] - Quote Ask ccp and no I doubt they will do anything to Amarr logi is fine as it is, but the rest pf the logis will see the fear of ner hammer making them useless and dull .... hopefully
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1762	Posted - 2013.06.06 04:50:00 - [8] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Logis... force em to fit either side arms or MD and all is well No, you would still suck. And my Flaylock would still be "OP", because you suck
GVGISDEAD Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.06.06 04:56:00 - [9] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Logis... force em to fit either side arms or MD and all is well No, you would still suck. And my Flaylock would still be "OP", because you suck MDs are so last build, flaylocks is what's "in" nowdays... :3 I forecast a nerf that will make them be completely useless like "we are CCP and logis do not deserve the right to use any type of gun" (removing all gun slots even nades)
Cass Barr Red Star. EoN. 130	Posted - 2013.06.06 05:05:00 - [10] - Quote You not being any good at the game is not sufficient reason to nerf an entire class. Sorry.

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 583	Posted - 2013.06.06 05:05:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Actually everything is subject to the nerf bat, its all in the question as to 'when' so this means that CCP is going murder CPM with bats?
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 255	Posted - 2013.06.06 05:09:00 - [12] - Quote CCP can readjust the Logi suits BUT don't touch our light weapon spot!
D ofDk Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 8	Posted - 2013.06.06 05:21:00 - [13] - Quote GVGISDEAD wrote: I would like to inform you that you are in the list of the NERF hammer. That is likely to include most if not all races into the equation yes I am looking at you Caldari Logi, Gallente Logi and Minmatar Logi. My magic eyes can already perceive threads of respecs, QQs and /sobs. Based on what should those be nerfed? Seriously, you had written 3 lines and those tells me nothing more then 0. Please more details why you want them to be nerfed and how. Im playing galente logistic and i want to undestand what is wrong with them?!
Cass Barr Red Star. EoN. 130	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:03:00 - [14] - Quote D ofDk wrote: GVGISDEAD wrote: I would like to inform you that you are in the list of the NERF hammer. That is likely to include most if not all races into the equation yes I am looking at you Caldari Logi, Gallente Logi and Minmatar Logi. My magic eyes can already perceive threads of respecs, QQs and /sobs. Based on what should those be nerfed? Seriously, you had written 3 lines and those tells me nothing more then 0. Please more details why you want them to be nerfed and how. Im playing galente logistic and i want to undestand what is wrong with them?! They keep killing him, that's what's wrong with them.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 66	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:33:00 - [15] - Quote If they nerf logis they should give assaults the 2nd equipment slot back.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1767	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:35:00 - [16] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: If they nerf logis they should give assaults the 2nd equipment slot back. How the fuq does that make sense to you? I'm guessing you meant "if they don't nerf logis"
Xender17 Intrepidus XI 147	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:50:00 - [17] - Quote The other day a player said I was rare. :,D.... not very many Amarr Logi's out there.
Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 166	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:52:00 - [18] - Quote Nah, one of my closest friends in game Orca Amsel uses it. He owns people with the SR and Core Flaylock all day.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 66	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:53:00 - [19] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: If they nerf logis they should give assaults the 2nd equipment slot back. How the fuq does that make sense to you? I'm guessing you meant "if they don't nerf logis" No, I used to use the assault suit and I would revive teammates and provide ammo now, now using the assault suit I can only bring nanohives. The assault suits should have 2 equipment and logis 4, at least for the proto versions.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 174	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:59:00 - [20] - Quote Xender17 wrote: The other day a player said I was rare. :,D.... not very many Amarr Logi's out there. And we are proud of it.

Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 88	Posted - 2013.06.06 07:19:00 - [21] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: If they nerf logis they should give assaults the 2nd equipment slot back. How the fuq does that make sense to you? I'm guessing you meant "if they don't nerf logis" Or he fondly remembers the times barely a month ago when well diversified units of Assault Slayers were able to perform every logistical and AV role necessary while avoiding the disadvantages of those other lesser suit types. The current logi Slayer squads are a weak imitation.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 515	Posted - 2013.06.06 07:28:00 - [22] - Quote Calogis are fine, a single std flux makes us 100% vulnerable. We can stack all the shields in the world, but just ONE std flux puts us on our knees. Stacking (or simply using) armor plates is mostly worthless, as we already have gimped movement speed which means assaults can out-strafe us easily. And when it comes to 1v1 gun-game, strafe speed is king. So adding more armor is just going to slow us down to a snails pace and really isn't a viable option. Oh and did I forget to mention that I had to put something like 700-800k SP into catalyzers (advanced, not even proto) just so I can sprint as fast as the default speed of a assault? I can't even fit a single enhanced catalyzer on my proto suit without two PG boosters and one CPU. 3/4 of my low-power slots are taken up by PG/CPU enhancements, and I am level 4 on both electronics and engineering with plenty of other CPU/PG reducing core skills upgraded. Calogis are fine, CCP just needs to give assaults back their second equipment slot on their proto suits.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1195	Posted - 2013.06.06 07:29:00 - [23] - Quote You know what? I hope they do nerf Logis so I can finally get off this nerf merry go round. I got over a million SP invested into a bugged weapon that won't be fixed for months, my super OP hacking bonus is under the nerf hammer, and I'm tired of this whole logi gate situation. When Dust 514 becomes the first AAA pillow fight, I hope you all realize that it's your fault. PS: Yes you can have my stuff... once you can find a way for me to send it to you.
Ignatius Crumwald IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 535	Posted - 2013.06.06 07:57:00 - [24] - Quote Just wait for the stealth logis... Heavies can't even carry equipment. Honestly, they aren't spitting 450 rounds of 35 damage a shot anymore, what would be the harm in letting a fatsuit lug a nanohive around? This game just irks me sometimes... Logis are supposed to repair the crap that kills stuff. Like, why is this game so sloppy?
Commander Tuna KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 55	Posted - 2013.06.06 08:01:00 - [25] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Calogis are fine, a single std flux makes us 100% vulnerable. We can stack all the shields in the world, but just ONE std flux puts us on our knees. Stacking (or simply using) armor plates is mostly worthless, as we already have gimped movement speed which means assaults can out-strafe us easily. And when it comes to 1v1 gun-game, strafe speed is king. So adding more armor is just going to slow us down to a snails pace and really isn't a viable option. Oh and did I forget to mention that I had to put something like 700-800k SP into catalyzers (advanced, not even proto) just so I can sprint as fast as the default speed of a assault? I can't even fit a single enhanced catalyzer on my proto suit without two PG boosters and one CPU. 3/4 of my low-power slots are taken up by PG/CPU enhancements, and I am level 4 on both electronics and engineering with plenty of other CPU/PG reducing core skills upgraded. Calogis are fine, CCP just needs to give assaults back their second equipment slot on their proto suits. Nope you caldari logis give all logis a bad name. Not sure why people would want the minmatar logi nerfed.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1771	Posted - 2013.06.06 08:04:00 - [26] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: If they nerf logis they should give assaults the 2nd equipment slot back. How the fuq does that make sense to you? I'm guessing you meant "if they don't nerf logis" No, I used to use the assault suit and I would revive teammates and provide ammo now, now using the assault suit I can only bring nanohives. The assault suits should have 2 equipment and logis 4, at least for the proto versions. So... buff assaults... and nerf logis... at the same time... you don't fail to see the problem here? Assaults either get buffed, or logis get nerfed, or nothing happens, but messing with a bunch of variables at the same time is how you screw things up, just look at CCP's style of "balancing"
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 124	Posted - 2013.06.06 08:25:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Remnant is a logibro IIRC. I think we're safe. :P
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1195	Posted - 2013.06.06 08:28:00 - [28] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: CCP Remnant is a logibro IIRC. I think we're safe. :P He nerfed the MD, a favorite weapon of logibros... nothing is sacred.
Esper Shadows Copper Dogs 13	Posted - 2013.06.06 08:29:00 - [29] - Quote Ehh... pretty much all logi suits are balanced well enough, except perhaps the caldari logi. It is often used as a shield tanking suit and gets passive bonuses to shield mods. Its not intended for shield tanking assault fits. I understand it can be countered by flux grenades and the like, but the fact of the matter is its a LOGISTICS suit. So I would not be surprised if the passive shield mod bonus was "adjusted".
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.06.06 08:34:00 - [30] - Quote I dunno how "OP" these suits really are, I still see lots and lots of assault suits out there. Not having the Flaylock pistol as a viable option has actually become an argument for not nerfing the logi suits. The Flaylock is dominating most CQC encounters in the CBs I've played lately. Fitting just one Flaylock is not very tempting, having an AR or whatnot as primary and a Flaylock as sidearm is a major advantage all suits have over the logi suits....



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