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Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1758	Posted - 2013.06.06 03:24:00 - [1] - Quote I'm looking at my Amarr suit, and I honestly don't see how they could gimp it more... lol... optimism.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1762	Posted - 2013.06.06 04:50:00 - [2] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Logis... force em to fit either side arms or MD and all is well No, you would still suck. And my Flaylock would still be "OP", because you suck
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1767	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:35:00 - [3] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: If they nerf logis they should give assaults the 2nd equipment slot back. How the fuq does that make sense to you? I'm guessing you meant "if they don't nerf logis"
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1771	Posted - 2013.06.06 08:04:00 - [4] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: If they nerf logis they should give assaults the 2nd equipment slot back. How the fuq does that make sense to you? I'm guessing you meant "if they don't nerf logis" No, I used to use the assault suit and I would revive teammates and provide ammo now, now using the assault suit I can only bring nanohives. The assault suits should have 2 equipment and logis 4, at least for the proto versions. So... buff assaults... and nerf logis... at the same time... you don't fail to see the problem here? Assaults either get buffed, or logis get nerfed, or nothing happens, but messing with a bunch of variables at the same time is how you screw things up, just look at CCP's style of "balancing"
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1786	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:41:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I love how people bring up the lack of side arm as a "balancing" factor for the logi, when sidearms are really only good if you can't aim (need to finish off the enemy you failed to kill) or if you run out of ammo (lol hives?) Really, all you have to do is look to the "top" players here, and you'll see many of them rolling logistics because they're statistically superior to Assaults in almost every way. Spoken like an AR user. Side arms are there to cover your main weapons weakness, but of course, you don't actually need one if you have an AR
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1790	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:02:00 - [6] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Side arms are there to cover your main weapons weakness, but of course, you don't actually need one if you have an AR I actually only just switched to ARs after a year of using every other weapon platform under DUSTs "many" suns If you can't kill with your primary, you're doing it wrong :/ And a scrambler rifle user is supposed to kill an armor tanking heavy how exactly? SMG, Flaylock, Grenade, none of those are primaries
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:10:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: If you can't kill with your primary, you're doing it wrong :/ And a scrambler rifle user is supposed to kill an armor tanking heavy how exactly? SMG, Flaylock, Grenade, none of those are primaries Ever think that maybe a SR isn't supposed to kill an armor tanked heavy without stopping to reload once or twice? Ever think that's what sidearms are for? Edit: Oh wait, you're too cool for sidearms
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:17:00 - [8] - Quote Oh FFS, fine, go use a swarm launcher without a sidearm and tell us they aren't useful. I'm sure you're good enough to melee everyone to death.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:22:00 - [9] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Oh FFS, fine, go use a swarm launcher without a sidearm and tell us they aren't useful. I'm sure you're good enough to melee everyone to death. Nope, I just roll with a squad, and don't spec into a suit that doesn't have a sidearm and is theoretically "designed for team support" when I want to go AV with a weapon that doesn't provide a use against enemy infantry. So logis cant use swarms BECAUSE THEY LACK SIDE ARMS? Interesting, I thought they didn't give anything up
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:25:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: So logis cant use swarms BECAUSE THEY LACK SIDE ARMS? Interesting, I thought they didn't give anything up If your argument has to fall back on swarm launchers as to why logi's are balanced without a sidearm, and you think that's even serious enough to warrant being called an "argument", then I'm not particularly sure what to tell you :/ You could switch it out with a sniper if you want

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:28:00 - [11] - Quote Nerf "good players"
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:33:00 - [12] - Quote Your entire argument relies on "good players", such as yourself, who are so l33t that they don't need side-arms, cause y'know **** versatility, it's just a crutch
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:41:00 - [13] - Quote Many advantages? Their only perks are equipment and fitting versatility, because they have more slots, at the cost of base stats. The Cal logi for instance: Without it's bonus, it needs 1 shield extender just to tie in EHP with a Cal Assault, they then both have 4 extenders left. The Cal logi is still slower and it still has less stamina. So aside from it's equipment, and 1 extra low slot, what many advantages does it have? This is of course ignoring their bonus.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:43:00 - [14] - Quote Shadowswipe wrote: Amarr suits. You better be talking buff here
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:48:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Stamina and speed are very minor balancing factors So... Scout suits... shrug
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1791	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:48:00 - [16] - Quote GVGISDEAD wrote: Updated OP for those players with weak minds, faulty brain processes or some disability and are not able to understand. :) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=785193#post785193 Without the Cal logi bonus, the difference between a fully shield tanks logi and assault is negligible. Also, the Logi, is far more expensive since the suits costs the same, but you have to pay for all those mods just to catch up to the assault suit.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1792	Posted - 2013.06.06 20:52:00 - [17] - Quote Quote: If we look at High-Power the Logistics class is capable of stacking the same amount of damage mods or more than the Assault class while maintaining versatility. Stacking penalties make anything past 3 pointless.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1792	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:06:00 - [18] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: RKKR wrote: GVGISDEAD wrote: Updated OP for those players with weak minds, faulty brain processes or some disability and are not able to understand. :) I made a summary because I thought that those players with weak minds, faulty brain processes or some disability are not able to read the whole text. Fact GÇ£AGÇ¥ (Class Bonus) The assault bonus is useless so I think logis should be nerfed and then I'm talking about something that should be in 'Fact "C" Slots'. Fact GÇ£BGÇ¥ (CPU/PG) CPU/PG stuff needs to change so logis can carry equipment but can't be a killer machine, but I'm not actually making a suggestion so instead I decided to troll everyone with a NERF. Fact GÇ£CGÇ¥ Slots Says logis can fit up like an assault because of more slots. Suddenly we can fit more damage mods than assaults and for some magical reason still have those slots to fit up like an assault. Fact GÇ£DGÇ¥ (Equipment vs Sidearm) Just some shaming of people that use sidearm. He fails to make a point. Fact GÇ£EGÇ¥(Racial Bonuses) Fails to mention Amar. No issues with Gallente and Minmatar. Some numbers on the Caldari suits. Still thinks it's cool to troll by saying all logis are going to be nerfed. Summary of the summary: This is a troll thread or just another Caldari logi is OP but I want to see all logis burn to hell. So because the CaLogi is OP you want all of the logistics to suffer? That makes... a lot of sense? Your "trolling" just makes you look like another malinformed kiddie throwing the word OP around to anything and everything they see. He's mocking the OP lol
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1793	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:16:00 - [19] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: GVGISDEAD wrote: Some people can't use their neurons... to actually read correctly who was posting it. And some people can't do research before posting a nerf thread ::) Using the Gallente smiley I see -:) (I wish I was Amarr lol)
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1793	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:20:00 - [20] - Quote GVGISDEAD wrote: ead lasted when it was clearly a troll. I blame Fiend