in what dom? LOL

do the math, figure out the damage output for a single clip for every AR and come tell me it's balanced

Even with 18 bullets you cant kill anything? Really? Maybe you shouldnt be using marksmen weapons. I suggest HMG but I'm worried the aiming aspect of HMG might be too much for you.

What's so funny? It was in skirmish actually, my second match was in dom and I went 14/7

Nerfs don't make better players but it does tend to get make the worse players cry when they lose a crutch, now the good players who used the TAC will still be good, and the bad ones will cry

if the bullets dont go where I aim, how am I at fault?

Nerfs don't make better players but it does tend to get make the worse players cry when they lose a crutch, now the good players who used the TAC will still be good, and the bad ones will cry

You're right, aiming is overrated. Bullets should automatically leave the mag and attack whoever you want dead.

"Crutch" meaning here "weapon in the game, that isn't the bumper of an LAV, that actually worked."

clueless

What's hilarious is that it's still perfectly good.

Some of our "top tier" players just don't want to have to use alternate fits for close range instead of just using one gun for everything.

Oh, and PDIGGY, you're just trash no matter what you use. Keep on spamming REs just like in the E3 build.

I feel left out because you seem to quote everyone in order, maybe you are still doing you're math? I'm sorry to disturb your calculations...but I still have no answer to my original question...



He agrees with you that nerfs don't make better players? Yet he is clueless? Is it because your ego got hurt with the second part of his statement?

Honestly I can understand peoples frustrations going against the tactical AR. Yes it was too powerful at close range and yes its almost too powerful all around, but this nerf is still hardly justifiable. It's overpowerdness for lack of a better word derived from hip fire despurtion and hp damage alone. Not the ROF and the clip size. This barely effects a modded controllers advantage and cripples the weapon. In no way does it equalize it. It's a single fire assault rifle. It's meant to have high range and high accuracy. And yes it's meant to be fired as fast as you can pull the trigger. That's what they do. Plus nobody seems to realize the fact that now the prototype TAR is identical to the advanced level TAR in every way except a slight damage increase, but still costs almost 4x as much. And did everyone forget that nobody used the TAR in the last build? It had the same ROF and the same hip fire despurtion so why was it not "OP" then? Because the DAMAGE was LOWER. Lower the damage and hip fire accuracy and everyone would be happy. Im extremely disappointed in CCP finally deciding to humor the casuals that scream OP everytime they get killed. CCP never paid much attention to you whiners since you all have the option to skill into these weapons.

That being said... Why is this nerf so strongly requested while there's still Dust vets out there losing +160,000 isk suits to militia mass drivers fresh out of the academy.

Okay, get your corp together attack IMPS, we will all use full autos, you all use tacs and see if you can hold the outside letters with your "range" advantage, nobody in your corp would even break 3 kills

*I'm right about everthing i say because i'm better than you*

Or maybe we would - OH **** - use a variety of guns!

I mean, do you really expect anyone to take you seriously? You could barely find anyone using any other weapon than the Tac AR since this build released, we've had many threads up the entire time discussing how it outclasses and renders useless EVERY other weapon in the game besides maybe the Flaylock Pistol, and you actually expect people to care when you cry about your obviously broken favorite asset being given proper balance?

Grow up.

Let me guess OP, you're Tac AR was paired with a Caldari logi suit that you were using like an assault suit? And now you don't have your best at all ranges OP gun and can actually be killed in close where you can no longer just pray and spray with your Tac?

See a player in an actual assault suit won't need the Op Tac AR, the new version will still suit them fine at medium to medium-long range and if someone gets close they'll whip out a SMG, flaylock, or scrambler pistol and be just fine. I can only surmise by your QQing EVEry DUSTOID that you were running a broken combo (like many others) and are now upset your clear advantage is gone.

Sorry, newbie, but we closed Beta vets remember when the Tac ARs were really nerfed, your QQing is going to fall on deaf ears for this rebalance.

Accuracy should be determined by the USER not some mathematical formula some nerd made up...

sorry your OP weapon got balanced. look on the bright side many people wanted the damage nerfed too but CCP said they would try this first.

by the way OP weapons will never make you good either

You did it! now all you guys will be so much better now that people aren't pwning you with it....


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Nerfs will never make you good....

[Request] Can I have the 5 minutes of my life back I just wasted reading this thread?