DUST Search - Tac is dead, congrats!

Orion Sanjeet wrote:

echo47 wrote:

I am confused what makes a player a scrub?

Also what is the definition of an overpowered weapon or module?

By scrub I suppose I should have defined it a bit as it is a somewhat metamorphic phrase depending on the context.

How I meant it:
-a new player to first persons shooters
-an individual whom is ok with using a modded controller and does
-and an individual who runs to the first crutch weapon/armor they can find e.g. t-ar, cad logi ect. ect.

An example of (from what I can tell from their posts) players sans the "scrub" title.

Chinduko wrote:

Kestral Kaiser wrote:

Heh, the nerf didn't hurt that much, still a very viable weapon.

You are correct. Its still a beast of a gun with its 75+ dmg. It's way better than the breach AR in dmg while still having the same ROF so it still rocks at CQC and range, in my opinion. The ROF doesn't really feel that much different to me. If I hadn't known it was nerfed, I wouldn't have noticed.

I wish CCP's practice of the slight nerf this AR received was practiced before the HMG, MD, and laser were nerf hammered. I'll be using the TAC until those three weapons are effective once again. I miss my laser and HMG Cry

metGÇóaGÇómorGÇóphic (-îm+¢t +Ö-êm+ör f+¬k)

adj.
1. pertaining to or characterized by metamorphosis.
2. pertaining to or exhibiting structural change or metamorphism

sans [s+ªnz]
prep
1. an archaic word for without
[from Old French sanz, from Latin sine without, but probably also influenced by Latin absenti-ü in the absence of]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 583	Posted - 2013.06.06 00:37:00 - [121] - Quote mikegunnz wrote: 1. PDiggy is a skilled player. (not as good as me, but really good) 2. Tac was OP. Sure it needed to be toned down. 3. Hipfire nerf, fine. 4. ROF nerf, fine. 5. Mag capacity nerf, questionable. 24 rounds might have been ok, but 18 is stupid. Gun is now crap. Why? Use your brain. A good player will probably be able to hit with 2/3 of their shots on any AVERAGE day. Duv Tact has 78 dmg per round x 18 rounds, means 1404 dmg per magazine. 2/3 of that is around 927dmg. This means that a GOOD player, cant kill a heavy with one magazine. They'll barely be able to kill a tanked assault if they hit 2/3 of their shots. All the other ARs can EASILY kill a Heavy with one magazine. Might even have enough left over to kill an assault without reloading. How does this make sense? the tactical was meant for range so you shouldn't need to rush your shots so you shouldn't miss more then 1/4 of your shots plus it is meant for longer range thus the stand off area where you can hit but they can't but its not balanced because you shouldn't use it for CQC? lol go away. the ammo meh 24 sounds ok maybe even 20 but w/ slight tweaks maybe but it is useful for what its meant for and the massive drop off is because the CQCers can't use it to beat other weapons meant for CQC.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1555	Posted - 2013.06.06 00:41:00 - [122] - Quote EVEry DUSTOID wrote: You did it! now all you guys will be so much better now that people aren't pwning you with it.... Oh, Wait.... Nerfs will never make you good.... awwww, poor fella, they took away his easy mode and now he's upset.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 412	Posted - 2013.06.06 01:53:00 - [123] - Quote Ran few games with TAC AR today. Felt ok, more balanced and I had to be way more careful in shorter ranges than the weeks before. Seems like a good nerf, but following weeks will decide. EDIT: Unless there was a range nerf as someone claimed on previous page. If that was on top of all, then it might've been too much. Again.
Grezkev The Red Guards EoN. 288	Posted - 2013.06.06 01:54:00 - [124] - Quote lol @ this thread Suck it.
greyarea67 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2013.06.06 01:57:00 - [125] - Quote SoCal Ninja wrote: I like cats Cats are OP. Buff dogs.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 203	Posted - 2013.06.06 02:06:00 - [126] - Quote EVEry DUSTOID wrote: You did it! now all you guys will be so much better now that people aren't pwning you with it.... Oh, Wait.... Good now I won't have to use the tac I hated using it...and is the scrambler ever going to get a range buff? Nerfs will never make you good....
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo 101	Posted - 2013.06.06 02:23:00 - [127] - Quote EVEry DUSTOID wrote: Okay, get your corp together attack IMPS, we will all use full autos, you all use tacs and see if you can hold the outside letters with your "range" advantage, nobody in your corp would even break 3 kills Hold on a minute.... you are in the IMPS? Lol, no surprise you're posting with an alt then. They'd probably kick you in a heartbeat with how much butt hurt you're showing in this thread.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1755	Posted - 2013.06.06 02:45:00 - [128] - Quote EVEry DUSTOID wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Maybe you just suck? says the guy who runs around with a flaylock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt5neL-7zC8 Still the best player in the game Yes, and boy do I feel "OP" when it takes me all 3 shots just to kill a proto suit
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2013.06.06 02:55:00 - [129] - Quote Tac AR was never even OP in the first place...
Sinned Deluvian Algintal Core Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.06.06 03:03:00 - [130] - Quote So the Tac AR, what to say... I was one Tac AR user that was completely pro nerf, and overall I am happy that the game is a bit more balanced. But, I feel the TAR doesn't fit my play style anymore. I really loved this gun, but the current rof is just too low. I would gladly accept anything for a higher rof; smaller clip size, shorter range, more recoil, lower dmg and I dont even use modded controllers. Its just that it now feels like a breach AR but for longer ranges.

Drake435 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 53	Posted - 2013.06.06 03:05:00 - [131] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Tac AR was never even OP in the first place... Nope. It was just that all the other guns were underpowered and these "modded controller" users contributed to "nerfing" the TAR. I honestly say that the TAR still kills just fine.
Bethhy Not Guilty EoN. 39	Posted - 2013.06.06 04:46:00 - [132] - Quote Drake435 wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Tac AR was never even OP in the first place... Nope. It was just that all the other guns were underpowered and these "modded controller" users contributed to "nerfing" the TAR. I honestly say that the TAR still kills just fine. The Militia Assault rifle still kills fine by your explanation... wait what gun haven't u seen on your kill feed? OMG EVERYTHING IS OP!!! Between horrific bullet registry(broken game mechanics) and a computer generated limit calling my trigger finger a lie'er and a computer generated mechanic slowing my aim down while tracking a moving enemy, to a aim assist sending my aim off even though the aim assist setting is turned OFF. To massive maps with already stupid ranges that make no sense in reality or any FPS ever made.... You guys fight stupid ******* battles i think nerfing a gun that works how it should of worked bar the 10% damage buff CCP still gave it when people where already complaining. Was a waste of man hours, and your dev team is to small for it. Sum up : CCP wasted time catering to noobs instead of fixing the game... P.S. Stop getting murdered by the gaming community because you cant even get the fundamental's of a FPS right and u waste time on this?
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 696	Posted - 2013.06.07 02:04:00 - [133] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: EVEry DUSTOID wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Let me guess OP, you're Tac AR was paired with a Caldari logi suit that you were using like an assault suit? And now you don't have your best at all ranges OP gun and can actually be killed in close where you can no longer just pray and spray with your Tac? See a player in an actual assault suit won't need the Op Tac AR, the new version will still suit them fine at medium to medium-long range and if someone gets close they'll whip out a SMG, flaylock, or scrambler pistol and be just fine. I can only surmise by your QQing EVEry DUSTOID that you were running a broken combo (like many others) and are now upset your clear advantage is gone. Sorry, newbie, but we closed Beta vets remember when the Tac ARs were really nerfed, your QQing is going to fall on deaf ears for this rebalance. Your clan is irrelevant so if your opinion LMAO I obviously hit right on the mark. BTW pal they are corporations in Dust not clans. While I don't care about yours or anyone else's opinions on Tritan, we've been here for quite some time, if you think we are so irrelevant, our address is on Klingt VIII come try and take what we got pup. Careful what you ask for, see you soon.
VEXation Gunn Imperfects Negative-Feedback 44	Posted - 2013.06.07 02:24:00 - [134] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: LMAO I obviously hit right on the mark. BTW pal they are corporations in Dust not clans. While I don't care about yours or anyone else's opinions on Tritan, we've been here for quite some time, if you think we are so irrelevant, our address is on Klingt VIII come try and take what we got pup. So the question now is do we just slap you around or take all your stuff. Take your ass whooping like a man and we might just take a district. Go and pull in PHI or UPS to fight your battles for you and we will wipe you off the map. Also whats the weather like on your district I want to make sure I dress weather appropriate
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1423	Posted - 2013.06.07 02:50:00 - [135] - Quote VEXation Gunn wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: LMAO I obviously hit right on the mark. BTW pal they are corporations in Dust not clans. While I don't care about yours or anyone else's opinions on Tritan, we've been here for quite some time, if you think we are so irrelevant, our address is on Klingt VIII come try and take what we got pup. So the question now is do we just slap you around or take all your stuff. Take your ass whooping like a man and we might just take a district. Go and pull in PHI or UPS to fight your battles for you and we will wipe you off the map. Also whats the weather like on your district I want to make sure I dress weather appropriate As if you would be in a battle
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 699	Posted - 2013.06.07 02:53:00 - [136] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: VEXation Gunn wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: LMAO I obviously hit right on the mark. BTW pal they are corporations in Dust not clans. While I don't care about yours or anyone else's opinions on Tritan, we've been here for quite some time, if you think we are so irrelevant, our address is on Klingt VIII come try and take what we got pup. So the question now is do we just slap you around or take all your stuff. Take your ass whooping like a man and we might just take a district. Go and pull in PHI or UPS to fight your battles for you and we will wipe you off the map. Also whats the weather like on your district I want to make sure I dress weather appropriate As if you would be in a battle Do you even lift?
Sake Monster The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 406	Posted - 2013.06.07 02:56:00 - [137] - Quote VEXation Gunn wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: LMAO I obviously hit right on the mark. BTW pal they are corporations in Dust not clans. While I don't care about yours or anyone else's opinions on Tritan, we've been here for quite some time, if you think we are so irrelevant, our address is on Klingt VIII come try and take what we got pup. So the question now is do we just slap you around or take all your stuff. Take your ass whooping like a man and we might just take a district. Go and pull in PHI or UPS to fight your battles for you and we will wipe you off the map. Also whats the weather like on your district I want to make sure I dress weather appropriate We have always enjoyed fighting NF, and as long as we got 16 guys on, it'll be all Tritan (and I'm certain we will). Looking forward to some good fights. See you guys tomorrow! Oh yeah, and clear skies, moderate temp is the forecast - Great weather for combat
Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 169	Posted - 2013.06.07 03:01:00 - [138] - Quote It still fires fast enough to rip through a heavy. I had to see it to believe it.
Kestral Kaiser 0uter.Heaven League of Infamy 3	Posted - 2013.06.07 03:08:00 - [139] - Quote Heh, the nerf didn't hurt that much, still a very viable weapon.
Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 169	Posted - 2013.06.07 03:36:00 - [140] - Quote Kestral Kaiser wrote: Heh, the nerf didn't hurt that much, still a very viable weapon. You are correct. It's still a beast of a gun with it's 75+ dmg. It's way better than the breach AR in dmg while still having the same ROF so it still rocks at CQC and range, in my opinion. The ROF doesn't really feel that much different to me. If I hadn't known it was nerfed, I wouldn't have noticed.

Orion Sanjeet SyNergy Gaming EoN. 8	Posted - 2013.06.09 16:47:00 - [141] - Quote echo47 wrote: I am confused what makes a player a scrub? Also what is the definition of an overpowered weapon or module? By scrub I suppose I should have defined it a bit as it is a somewhat metamorphic phrase depending on the context. How I meant it: -a new player to first persons shooters -an individual whom is ok with using a modded controller and does -and an individual who runs to the first crutch weapon/armor they can find e.g. t-ar, cad logi ect. ect. An example of (from what I can tell from their posts) players sans the "scrub" title. Chinduko wrote: Kestral Kaiser wrote: Heh, the nerf didn't hurt that much, still a very viable weapon. You are correct. Its still a beast of a gun with its 75+ dmg. It's way better than the breach AR in dmg while still having the same ROF so it still rocks at CQC and range, in my opinion. The ROF doesn't really feel that much different to me. If I hadn't known it was nerfed, I wouldn't have noticed. I wish CCP's practice of the slight nerf this AR received was practiced before the HMG, MD, and laser were nerf hammered. I'll be using the TAC until those three weapons are effective once again. I miss my laser and HMG metGÇóaGÇómorGÇóphic (-îm+¢t +Ö-êm+ör f+¬k) adj. 1. pertaining to or characterized by metamorphosis. 2. pertaining to or exhibiting structural change or metamorphism sans [s+ªnz] prep 1. an archaic word for without [from Old French sanz, from Latin sine without, but probably also influenced by Latin absenti-ü in the absence of]
Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 178	Posted - 2013.06.09 20:40:00 - [142] - Quote Orion Sanjeet wrote: echo47 wrote: I am confused what makes a player a scrub? Also what is the definition of an overpowered weapon or module? By scrub I suppose I should have defined it a bit as it is a somewhat metamorphic phrase depending on the context. How I meant it: -a new player to first persons shooters -an individual whom is ok with using a modded controller and does -and an individual who runs to the first crutch weapon/armor they can find e.g. t-ar, cad logi ect. ect. An example of (from what I can tell from their posts) players sans the "scrub" title. Chinduko wrote: Kestral Kaiser wrote: Heh, the nerf didn't hurt that much, still a very viable weapon. You are correct. Its still a beast of a gun with its 75+ dmg. It's way better than the breach AR in dmg while still having the same ROF so it still rocks at CQC and range, in my opinion. The ROF doesn't really feel that much different to me. If I hadn't known it was nerfed, I wouldn't have noticed. I wish CCP's practice of the slight nerf this AR received was practiced before the HMG, MD, and laser were nerf hammered. I'll be using the TAC until those three weapons are effective once again. I miss my laser and HMG metGÇóaGÇómorGÇóphic (-îm+¢t +Ö-êm+ör f+¬k) adj. 1. pertaining to or characterized by metamorphosis. 2. pertaining to or exhibiting structural change or metamorphism sans [s+ªnz] prep 1. an archaic word for without [from Old French sanz, from Latin sine without, but probably also influenced by Latin absenti-ü in the absence of] Basically, what you stated had no actual reasoning behind stating my post as that of a scrub. Explain...
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 191	Posted - 2013.06.09 20:50:00 - [143] - Quote I'd like some of you guys to define what OP is and What makes a weapon OP? Is that too much to ask? When I think of an OP weapon, I think of weapons with no counters or ones that output extreme amounts of damage in comparison to others, Clearly the TAC doesn't or didn't fit that description, so please explain to me what OP is and what makes a weapon OP? Let's take a look at one of the most OP weapons in the history of shooters, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MLnI2NAnT8 One hit kills at every range, requires no scope and fires semi-auto, in a ONE life game. I think what we see on message board forums is a lot of bad players, players who essentially can't compete and would rather ask for nerfs then get better.
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 118	Posted - 2013.06.09 20:52:00 - [144] - Quote I don't know why TC is upset the TAC is dead. You ever see one of his vids ? Dudes aims soo bad he has to use RE's to get a kill against anyone who isn't fresh out of the academy. Poster boy for SP carrying bad players.
Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 178	Posted - 2013.06.09 21:07:00 - [145] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: I'd like some of you guys to define what OP is and What makes a weapon OP? Is that too much to ask? When I think of an OP weapon, I think of weapons with no counters or ones that output extreme amounts of damage in comparison to others, Clearly the TAC doesn't or didn't fit that description, so please explain to me what OP is and what makes a weapon OP? Let's take a look at one of the most OP weapons in the history of shooters, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MLnI2NAnT8 One hit kills at every range, requires no scope and fires semi-auto, in a ONE life game. I think what we see on message board forums is a lot of bad players, players who essentially can't compete and would rather ask for nerfs then get better. The best way I could tell if a weapon is OP and I believe most people do the same is by noticing the amount of players that are using a weapon. Simply by watching which weapon in matches kills the most people is a great way to make a good guess at what is OP. Looking at the stats is also a great way. Players will learn which weapons give them the most kills, and quickly. Opposite for weapons that are under powered. The TAC before the ROF reduction and magazine size had the great benefit of short to medium range killing capability, more so than normal CQC and medium ranged weapons. It had approximately the same ROF to that of a regular AR but with twice the damage per bullet. It also had pin point accuracy when hip fired. Now it has a ROF equivalent to that of the breach AR but still with more damage. It also was reduced in hip fire accuracy and magazine reduction from 24 to 18. For those that never used a rapid fire control mod, it may feel near the same but I haven't paid attention to the new decreased hip fire so it could be less effective after the update than I thought. I thought it needed a damage reduction to match that of full auto AR's, made into full-auto itself, and the magazine size of 60 to match normal ARs. If we're not getting scopes, that could have filled the void.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 191	Posted - 2013.06.09 21:15:00 - [146] - Quote The best way I could tell if a weapon is OP and I believe most people do the same is by noticing the amount of players that are using a weapon. Simply by watching which weapon in matches kills the most people is a great way to make a good guess at what is OP. Looking at the stats is also a great way. The TAC before the ROF reduction and magazine size had the great benefit of short to medium range killing capability, more so than normal CQC and medium ranged weapons. It had approximately the same ROF to that of a regular AR but with more twice the damage per bullet. It also had pin point accuracy when hip firing. Now it has a ROF to that of the breach AR but still with more damage. It also was reduced in hip fire accuracy and magazine reduction from 24 to 18. For those that never used a rapid fire control mod, it feels near the same but I haven't paid attention to the new decreased hip fire so it could be less effective after the update than I thought. I thought it needed a damage reduction to match that of full auto AR's, made into full-auto itself, and the magazine size of 60 to match normal ARs. If we're not getting scopes, that could have filled the void.[/quote] The amount of players using a weapon doesn't=OP, especially in a game where players are LOCKED in a PATH. Tac had roughly the same output of damage as full autos before nerf, still don't see the problem with the gun, it was beaten by snipers at range and lost to shotguns and HMG in CQC, OP weapons don't have multiple counter's. Look at the laser from last build, deemed OP by many, Was unbeatable at range and could kill you before you could spawn into your character, TAC could never do that...
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 191	Posted - 2013.06.09 21:18:00 - [147] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: I don't know why TC is upset the TAC is dead. You ever see one of his vids ? Dudes aims soo bad he has to use RE's to get a kill against anyone who isn't fresh out of the academy. Poster boy for SP carrying bad players. Worry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wIO8jXtNdg About https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuBF4_AHDIE Your https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtNHyy_ATDY Aim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8NDBm8lko
Xender17 Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 158	Posted - 2013.06.09 21:19:00 - [148] - Quote I wonder what weapon you use. Oh wait...
Alina Heart DIOS EX. 242	Posted - 2013.06.09 21:19:00 - [149] - Quote Still using my TAC, still loving it, still delivering good results if used correctly. I think it's time for you to Adapt Mark.....Or die. Your choice.
DovKnight Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.06.09 21:26:00 - [150] - Quote EVEry DUSTOID wrote: You did it! now all you guys will be so much better now that people aren't pwning you with it.... Oh, Wait.... Nerfs will never make you good.... Aww lost your i win fit? Just because you cant hip fireit anymore doesnt mean the gun is crap..htfu and learn to use the weapon



Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page