Your stuffz?

Honestly idk if ill even play dust after the ps4 comes out, why would I come back to this old console

So I've been playing Dust for almost a year now,and with the "official release" that we all are playing now,it is clear to me that CCP really doesn't have very long to keep this game viable.Now before I get flamed,let me explain my position.

E3 is right around the corner,and without major improvements,or at least an announcement or two,I think that a lot of people,myself included,will look at the future of Dust to be bleak.We all know that Sony will be showcasing the PS4 heavily at E3,and I'm willing to bet that Dust won't have much room on the floor to wow anyone this year.

So looking at E3,I ask myself,what will be the big system seller for the PS4? Well,all I have to say is that if Destiny is one of those games that Sony decides to showcase heavily at E3,it's gonna be extremely hard for Dust to remain relevant after that.Just looking at some of the little footage that I've seen,it looks like it's going to be a huge seller,and there will probably be people leaving in droves to play it.Now this is all assuming that CCP still hasn't gotten their $h!7 together with this game by that time.

Along with Destiny,there are just way too many other games that are coming out for a lot of people to want to come back to Dust in the state that it's in,and what I mean by that isn't content or lack there of,but more of the technical side of things.People will put up with a laggy game with subpar controls for only so long before they finally move on to something that they enjoy more.Hell,it's already started to happen.don't see 8k+ people online at one time anymore.

CCP's carrot on the stick tactics of making a game is just wrong for consoles,and if they don't make some sweeping improvements,then it's going to be an epic disaster for them.Also,I will always be confused at how you are supposed to balance a game when you don't even have half of the content in it.So looking another year down the road,when we have all of the guns from all of the races,there will be more crying from the players that are left of how the Minmitar AR needs a buff,or how the Caldari SMG is OP.You create more work for yourselves when you try to balance like this.

I have to admit,while I LOVE the concept of Dust,I'm finding the game to be losing a lot of it's luster.I know that it might sound like I'm ranting,but I'm not.I'm actually sadden by the stark realization that this game may never live up to the vision that was presented to us.Maybe the problem is that Dust is a game that's too ahead of it's time,or maybe it's just that the CCP bit off more than they could chew,either way,I still stand firm in my belief that the clock is ticking for them.Let's just hope for gaming's sake that they get it right before they run out of time.

>Implying DUST won't be on the PS4
>Implying DUST wasn't intented to be for the PS4 and the PS3 was the beta console for it

Plebian.

I wish that were true but we know its not

I wish that were true but we know its not

I wish that were true but we know its not

Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works.

You must be new here, DUST is going to be on the PS4. You're not considering that DUST would have no player base if it stayed on the PS3.

Eve is for pc...dust for ps3 while the ps4 is around the corner a lot of us will buy a ps4 on release in return we couldn't play dust on it

Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works.

Should have just said this game is trash. Way to waste words, but good post OP.

Destiny will be better than DUST.

The main reason, its being developed by Bungie... aka people who know what a FPS is and how to handle one. And depending on what Bungie does with Destiny on down the line will determine its true quality.

The way i see it, DUST is to Aeria as Destiny is to Steam.

Before you leave can i have your stuff??

Keep dreaming..no one will ever have my stuff even if I leave and never come back

I will take your tears then

All the QQ, crying about "I'm leaving and going to Destiny" it's freaking hilarious since i can't have your stuff i will take your tears when you spend all that money for nothing on Destiny lol

All the QQ, crying about "I'm leaving and going to Destiny" it's freaking hilarious since i can't have your stuff i will take your tears when you spend all that money for nothing on Destiny lol

So looking at E3,I ask myself,what will be the big system seller for the PS4? Well,all I have to say is that if Destiny is one of those games that Sony decides to showcase heavily at E3,it's gonna be extremely hard for Dust to remain relevant after that.Just looking at some of the little footage that I've seen,it looks like it's going to be a huge seller,and there will probably be people leaving in droves to play it.

Along with Destiny,there are just way too many other games that are coming out for a lot of people to want to come back to Dust in the state that it's in,and what I mean by that isn't content or lack there of,but more of the technical side of things.

If all you nerds have been following the console wars that are going on right before E3, you'll know atm the Xbox One is considered laughable compared to PS4. Pay for a used Xbox One game and then pay MS to play it... doubt it.

I know a few hardcore Xbox players that play DUST, most of them said if this happens they are buying a PS4.

One of the biggest games on the Xbox is HALO. Bungie made HALO... Bungie is making Destiny exclusively for the PS4.

Connect the dots, tons of people will be playing Destiny.

Destiny alone won't deflate (wont say kill) DUST. But if DUST isn't on the PS4 at launch (it wont be) and you could have Destiny, BF4, Watchdogs, Second Son, Killzone, COD: Ghosts, GTA V etc... would you really stay with DUST over a PS4 and all these games next gen games?





Me either... I think DUST is about to find out how MAG felt with that exodus.

Destiny isn't a PS4 exclusive.This is from their official site.
http://www.destinythegame.com/wheretobuy

Destiny is getting exclusive content for the PS4 version though.

If all you nerds have been following the console wars that are going on right before E3, you'll know atm the Xbox One is considered laughable compared to PS4. Pay for a used Xbox One game and then pay MS to play it... doubt it.

I know a few hardcore Xbox players that play DUST, most of them said if this happens they are buying a PS4.

One of the biggest games on the Xbox is HALO. Bungie made HALO... Bungie is making Destiny exclusively for the PS4.

Connect the dots, tons of people will be playing Destiny.

Destiny alone won't deflate (wont say kill) DUST. But if DUST isn't on the PS4 at launch (it wont be) and you could have Destiny, BF4, Watchdogs, Second Son, Killzone, COD: Ghosts, GTA V etc... would you really stay with DUST over a PS4 and all these games next gen games?

Me either... I think DUST is about to find out how MAG felt with that exodus.

I have to admit,while I LOVE the concept of Dust,I'm finding the game to be losing a lot of it's luster.I know that it might sound like I'm ranting,but I'm not.I'm actually sadden by the stark realization that this game may never live up to the vision that was presented to us.Maybe the problem is that Dust is a game that's too ahead of it's time,or maybe it's just that the CCP bit off more than they could chew,either way,I still stand firm in my belief that the clock is ticking for them.Let's just hope for gaming's sake that they get it right before they run out of time.

Im not even going to buy a next gen console, at least not at launch, maybe 4 years+ down the line. But why buy console when i already have a PC that performs better than the PS4.

Dust 514 was scheduled to show at the last E3, they got cancelled and replaced with wonderbook. This happened again at two other events.

I feel sorry for you, i really do. To me it seems like you dont actually have any money at all to buy a normal 60$ or less game to play, and experience what a functional title is like.

Good post Th3rdSun.

Your points are solid and well-presented, there's really nothing to argue with in your post. I think if DUST were a 'standard' fps it would be dead already, effectively still-born. DUST does provide some great experiences, but the moment-to-moment core gameplay feels like chewing tinfoil.

It's New Eden that makes things hard to predict. And the reason for this is that New Eden is by any reasonable measure, alive. It is it's own entity, and bigger than any one player or group of players. It reacts, evolves, adapts, it has it's own character and generates its own lore. I realize it's easy to mock this statement, but based on evidence it's very hard to argue against. Right now in EVE there are giant movements of wealth and power occuring in reaction to the presence of DUST mercs. The real, living universe is turning its eye on us.

What this means for DUST is that it has very long legs and will be exceedingly hard to kill. It also means that if CCP can get the fps fundamentals working right peeps will return to DUST. And ofc once we get the basics out of the way the 'endgame' vision for DUST absolutely beggars anything DESTINY or any other game will have. I don't need to provide examples because we all know this to be true, that's why we're still here standing our ground in this awful fps experience.

Not to diminish what Bungie and their competitors are doing. Destiny and other games will be pure fps sex. Controls will be a dream and characters will move like the killing machines they are. There will be a large playerbase. The quality control and production values will be solid at the very least, if not gob-smacking.

Et cetera. But the multiple releases, story arcs and shared social experinces that Bungies is planning on for DESTINY will never match the fecundity of New Eden for story-generation, and will never allow for the epic universe-wide fame-generating triumphs and abject humiliating defeats we will face in DUST. Empires will not be built and betrayed, rebuilt and sweet revenge will not be extracted anywhere except in New Eden.

That's why i'm still here, at any rate.


And as for the PS4, can you believe that a company that is forward-thinking enough and technically competent enough to build CREST and a globally-distributed battleserver architecture hasn't positioned itself for the PS4? Not to mention the relationship with SONY. CCP's MO is this: Do a lot of work behind the scenes and then release quickly, over-delivering on expectations. The list of CCP's technical accomplishments is impressive. It would be foolish to expect things to change now.

Why wouldnt DUST go onto the PS4 where it is easier to port it and more powerful so they can do more with DUST

clock has stopped.. imo

they have so completely broken this game, there will be no coming back from this kind of failure

now they are staging fake DDOS attacks in desperation

PS4 is being geared up to release this year or early next year

Why wouldnt DUST go onto the PS4 where it is easier to port it and more powerful so they can do more with DUST

Because they have been struggling with the basics of an FPS for years.

This ^

And thats going to stop them from trying to put it on PS4?

Denial

It will be on the ps4 but not this year or next year if you buy a ps4 by then you will probably move on, I love dust but as soon as I have a ps4 I won't go back to a ps3

>Implying DUST won't be on the PS4
>Implying DUST wasn't intented to be for the PS4 and the PS3 was the beta console for it

Plebian.

After the defiance mess iv decided dust will never die it just stops growing. Iv met a lot of new people in FW that are blow away by Dust514. And I spend ever longer trying to get across that FW matches have a strong knock on effect EvE side.