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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:07:00 -
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So I've been playing Dust for almost a year now,and with the "official release" that we all are playing now,it is clear to me that CCP really doesn't have very long to keep this game viable.Now before I get flamed,let me explain my position.
E3 is right around the corner,and without major improvements,or at least an announcement or two,I think that a lot of people,myself included,will look at the future of Dust to be bleak.We all know that Sony will be showcasing the PS4 heavily at E3,and I'm willing to bet that Dust won't have much room on the floor to wow anyone this year.
So looking at E3,I ask myself,what will be the big system seller for the PS4? Well,all I have to say is that if Destiny is one of those games that Sony decides to showcase heavily at E3,it's gonna be extremely hard for Dust to remain relevant after that.Just looking at some of the little footage that I've seen,it looks like it's going to be a huge seller,and there will probably be people leaving in droves to play it.Now this is all assuming that CCP still hasn't gotten their $h!7 together with this game by that time.
Along with Destiny,there are just way too many other games that are coming out for a lot of people to want to come back to Dust in the state that it's in,and what I mean by that isn't content or lack there of,but more of the technical side of things.People will put up with a laggy game with subpar controls for only so long before they finally move on to something that they enjoy more.Hell,it's already started to happen.don't see 8k+ people online at one time anymore.
CCP's carrot on the stick tactics of making a game is just wrong for consoles,and if they don't make some sweeping improvements,then it's going to be an epic disaster for them.Also,I will always be confused at how you are supposed to balance a game when you don't even have half of the content in it.So looking another year down the road,when we have all of the guns from all of the races,there will be more crying from the players that are left of how the Minmitar AR needs a buff,or how the Caldari SMG is OP.You create more work for yourselves when you try to balance like this.
I have to admit,while I LOVE the concept of Dust,I'm finding the game to be losing a lot of it's luster.I know that it might sound like I'm ranting,but I'm not.I'm actually sadden by the stark realization that this game may never live up to the vision that was presented to us.Maybe the problem is that Dust is a game that's too ahead of it's time,or maybe it's just that the CCP bit off more than they could chew,either way,I still stand firm in my belief that the clock is ticking for them.Let's just hope for gaming's sake that they get it right before they run out of time.
TL;DR CCP is running out of time to fix Dust before people leave to play other games.
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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:13:00 -
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Your stuffz? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:14:00 -
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I haven't seen a "death of dust impending" for about two days... must be a record. |
Bling Blaine
Ringer For Hire
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:15:00 -
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Depressing isn't it? |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:15:00 -
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Can I get a TL; DR? |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:15:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Your stuffz? Can has thems? |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:16:00 -
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Should have just said this game is trash. Way to waste words, but good post OP. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:17:00 -
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Honestly idk if ill even play dust after the ps4 comes out, why would I come back to this old console |
Gotyougood
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:18:00 -
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I'd wager that with the PS4 comes a lot of improvements to the game. |
Kaminoikari
Wrath of Omnipotent Beings
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:26:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Honestly idk if ill even play dust after the ps4 comes out, why would I come back to this old console
>Implying DUST won't be on the PS4 >Implying DUST wasn't intented to be for the PS4 and the PS3 was the beta console for it
Plebian. |
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OZAROW
Elements Of Death Elite
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:28:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:So I've been playing Dust for almost a year now,and with the "official release" that we all are playing now,it is clear to me that CCP really doesn't have very long to keep this game viable.Now before I get flamed,let me explain my position. E3 is right around the corner,and without major improvements,or at least an announcement or two,I think that a lot of people,myself included,will look at the future of Dust to be bleak.We all know that Sony will be showcasing the PS4 heavily at E3,and I'm willing to bet that Dust won't have much room on the floor to wow anyone this year. So looking at E3,I ask myself,what will be the big system seller for the PS4? Well,all I have to say is that if Destiny is one of those games that Sony decides to showcase heavily at E3,it's gonna be extremely hard for Dust to remain relevant after that.Just looking at some of the little footage that I've seen,it looks like it's going to be a huge seller,and there will probably be people leaving in droves to play it.Now this is all assuming that CCP still hasn't gotten their $h!7 together with this game by that time. Along with Destiny,there are just way too many other games that are coming out for a lot of people to want to come back to Dust in the state that it's in,and what I mean by that isn't content or lack there of,but more of the technical side of things.People will put up with a laggy game with subpar controls for only so long before they finally move on to something that they enjoy more.Hell,it's already started to happen.don't see 8k+ people online at one time anymore. CCP's carrot on the stick tactics of making a game is just wrong for consoles,and if they don't make some sweeping improvements,then it's going to be an epic disaster for them.Also,I will always be confused at how you are supposed to balance a game when you don't even have half of the content in it.So looking another year down the road,when we have all of the guns from all of the races,there will be more crying from the players that are left of how the Minmitar AR needs a buff,or how the Caldari SMG is OP.You create more work for yourselves when you try to balance like this. I have to admit,while I LOVE the concept of Dust,I'm finding the game to be losing a lot of it's luster.I know that it might sound like I'm ranting,but I'm not.I'm actually sadden by the stark realization that this game may never live up to the vision that was presented to us.Maybe the problem is that Dust is a game that's too ahead of it's time,or maybe it's just that the CCP bit off more than they could chew,either way,I still stand firm in my belief that the clock is ticking for them.Let's just hope for gaming's sake that they get it right before they run out of time. TL;DR CCP is running out of time to fix Dust before people leave to play other games. I ll play this game till they fix it which they will and even if people leave they ll comeback there's too much time invested for veteran players to throw in the towel, noobs not so much, but they gotta fix it fast before cod swipes the skill tree an character personalization an does it better than dust , or else dust will never get their players or players from other games like it an if people ***** to their friends about the wrongs in the game new people will never even try it an they basically sabotaged the life span of dust by being a whinner so with that said people gotta realise this is a huge project an my never be perfect because u can't please everyone, I love having a fast knive character an I havent found another game that lets me ruin a squad of six dudes with nothing but speed an knives so regardless of errors you can't beat what the concept will grow into an if people leave that's perfect cus when you come back I'm gonna have 3 months of sp you don't an that's gonna be a great feeling making some cry baby quit again because I stayed loyal an killed his 100000$ suit with one shot knife that he or she never even seen .... It ll be frustrating for them priceless for me
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:29:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Honestly idk if ill even play dust after the ps4 comes out, why would I come back to this old console >Implying DUST won't be on the PS4 >Implying DUST wasn't intented to be for the PS4 and the PS3 was the beta console for it Plebian. I wish that were true but we know its not |
KING SALASI
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:33:00 -
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Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works. |
EternalRMG
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:36:00 -
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Destiniy seems like a good game but i doesnt have the potential that Dust has but the problem is: CCP doesnt use the full potential of this game and if they dont use it fast this isnt gonna last.
The problem with ccp is that THEY WORK WAY TOO SLOW you need something big at E3 if you want to live past it otherwise... well, lets just say that destiny will dig our tomb |
omega 015
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Honestly idk if ill even play dust after the ps4 comes out, why would I come back to this old console >Implying DUST won't be on the PS4 >Implying DUST wasn't intented to be for the PS4 and the PS3 was the beta console for it Plebian. I wish that were true but we know its not
I think it is true, the ps4 will emulate a pc better than the ps3 ever will. |
Kaminoikari
Wrath of Omnipotent Beings
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Honestly idk if ill even play dust after the ps4 comes out, why would I come back to this old console >Implying DUST won't be on the PS4 >Implying DUST wasn't intented to be for the PS4 and the PS3 was the beta console for it Plebian. I wish that were true but we know its not You must be new here, DUST is going to be on the PS4. You're not considering that DUST would have no player base if it stayed on the PS3. |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Honestly idk if ill even play dust after the ps4 comes out, why would I come back to this old console >Implying DUST won't be on the PS4 >Implying DUST wasn't intented to be for the PS4 and the PS3 was the beta console for it Plebian. I wish that were true but we know its not
I, too, wish it were true ... alas, I keep hearing rumors about how Planetside 2 is coming to the PS4. It'd make my day if those rumors eventually become fact. I'd leave the PS3 and Dust 514 behind in a cloud of, well, dust.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:38:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works. Eve is for pc...dust for ps3 while the ps4 is around the corner a lot of us will buy a ps4 on release in return we couldn't play dust on it |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:40:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Honestly idk if ill even play dust after the ps4 comes out, why would I come back to this old console >Implying DUST won't be on the PS4 >Implying DUST wasn't intented to be for the PS4 and the PS3 was the beta console for it Plebian. I wish that were true but we know its not You must be new here, DUST is going to be on the PS4. You're not considering that DUST would have no player base if it stayed on the PS3. Lmao I've been here since long in the closed beta and I remember them telling us they wouldn't or couldn't transfer dust to the ps4 and a lot of the players complained about the idea of having to buy a ps4 |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:43:00 -
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Dust 514 was scheduled to show at the last E3, they got cancelled and replaced with wonderbook. This happened again at two other events. |
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KING SALASI
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:44:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works. Eve is for pc...dust for ps3 while the ps4 is around the corner a lot of us will buy a ps4 on release in return we couldn't play dust on it
Before you leave can i have your stuff?? |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:45:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works.
Destiny will be better than DUST.
The main reason, its being developed by Bungie... aka people who know what a FPS is and how to handle one. And depending on what Bungie does with Destiny on down the line will determine its true quality.
The way i see it, DUST is to Aeria as Destiny is to Steam.
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Kyro Justice
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:51:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Should have just said this game is trash. Way to waste words, but good post OP.
This. |
KING SALASI
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:53:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works. Destiny will be better than DUST. The main reason, its being developed by Bungie... aka people who know what a FPS is and how to handle one. And depending on what Bungie does with Destiny on down the line will determine its true quality. The way i see it, DUST is to Aeria as Destiny is to Steam.
Lmao so here is a sheep lol bungie console developer. That will charge you $60 retail, $150 special edition, day one dlc, and my favorite season pass. They will hold back content cuz that's the norm in the console business. Like i said before you leave can i have your stuff??
I wish i was a console game developer it's like taking candy from a baby lol. |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:01:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works. Eve is for pc...dust for ps3 while the ps4 is around the corner a lot of us will buy a ps4 on release in return we couldn't play dust on it Before you leave can i have your stuff?? Keep dreaming..no one will ever have my stuff even if I leave and never come back |
KING SALASI
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:04:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works. Eve is for pc...dust for ps3 while the ps4 is around the corner a lot of us will buy a ps4 on release in return we couldn't play dust on it Before you leave can i have your stuff?? Keep dreaming..no one will ever have my stuff even if I leave and never come back
I will take your tears then |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:06:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Lol @ OP i said in a thread earlier console gamers are use to $60 retail, day one dlc, $150 special edition, and season pass. Destiny will have all of that plus micro transactions watch the sheep run to it lol. When was the last time Eve Online was featured at E3?? Again im in for the long haul Eve vets can attest to this please explain to the OP how CCP works. Eve is for pc...dust for ps3 while the ps4 is around the corner a lot of us will buy a ps4 on release in return we couldn't play dust on it Before you leave can i have your stuff?? Keep dreaming..no one will ever have my stuff even if I leave and never come back I will take your tears then What tears? That I want this game to go onto the ps4 then there is a lot of tears by a lot of players |
KING SALASI
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:16:00 -
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All the QQ, crying about "I'm leaving and going to Destiny" it's freaking hilarious since i can't have your stuff i will take your tears when you spend all that money for nothing on Destiny lol |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:25:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:All the QQ, crying about "I'm leaving and going to Destiny" it's freaking hilarious since i can't have your stuff i will take your tears when you spend all that money for nothing on Destiny lol
I feel sorry for you, i really do. To me it seems like you dont actually have any money at all to buy a normal 60$ or less game to play, and experience what a functional title is like.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:27:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:All the QQ, crying about "I'm leaving and going to Destiny" it's freaking hilarious since i can't have your stuff i will take your tears when you spend all that money for nothing on Destiny lol So I didn't say I was going to destiny but good try, and yes I will be buying destiny kz4 bf4 cod ghost and any other game that looks good |
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