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Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
548
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:34:00 -
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So I'm confused about something: what the hell is the problem that's got everyone's panties in a twist?
CCP reset the negative balance players to 0 ISK so they can still enjoy playing as much as possible and sometime in the near future CCP will go through and look at each player individually to correct any mistake or remove assets from the player equal to the amount they were negative.
Exploit or not an exploit who gives a ****? Anybody that spent that money is an idiot. Either it was a small amount that suddenly appeared and you didn't notice in which case it won't be a big deal for you to pay it back. Or it was a huge amount (over 500,000,000 ISK for me, for example) and you spent it or donated it or whatever which means you're an idiot and I have no sympathy for you.
So can somebody tell me what's got everyone so pissed off? This kind of stuff might be slightly time consuming but CCP has a record of everything so being able to see exactly what happened and where the money went is simple. What's the problem?
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Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
228
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:51:00 -
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Crybabies in the thread. |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
228
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:53:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:So I'm confused about something: what the hell is the problem that's got everyone's panties in a twist?
They are upset some people are getting digital items with their fake money while they are poor. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
191
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:01:00 -
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haahaahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah.
happy to sad in the blink of an eye.
werent you laughing at their misfortune? |
CRISIS BATTLESUIT
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:06:00 -
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With such a tender topic may i caress your sore spot to make you feel better? I'll even collect those tears from your eyes free of charge. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1499
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:07:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:So I'm confused about something: what the hell is the problem that's got everyone's panties in a twist?
CCP reset the negative balance players to 0 ISK so they can still enjoy playing as much as possible and sometime in the near future CCP will go through and look at each player individually to correct any mistake or remove assets from the player equal to the amount they were negative.
Exploit or not an exploit who gives a ****? Anybody that spent that money is an idiot. Either it was a small amount that suddenly appeared and you didn't notice in which case it won't be a big deal for you to pay it back. Or it was a huge amount (over 500,000,000 ISK for me, for example) and you spent it or donated it or whatever which means you're an idiot and I have no sympathy for you.
So can somebody tell me what's got everyone so pissed off? This kind of stuff might be slightly time consuming but CCP has a record of everything so being able to see exactly what happened and where the money went is simple. What's the problem?
The problem (too me) was before GM Grave made his post on GD about giving people minus ISK, it was the fact that I had kept spending down, spent 46mil and was in minus cash when I logged on, which I accepted, but found when I relogged I was at 0 and could continue earning money.
This means that everyone who was "smart" enough to donate all the money they got to their Corp Wallets could pay for many Geno packs or could use it as a safety box, and could withdraw it again with no penalty. In a game where it's about economic warfare as much as the Ground and Space battles taking place, this is a massive issue especially considering we're playing "Release" and not a BETA. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
751
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:15:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Crybabies in the thread. Haha, foolish.
Why do you think the bailout happened? Crying Scammers. So if people want to stand up and post about this, than they will. CCP has seen the legit complaints about caving to those who obviously got rid of the dirty isk quick. No amount of your trolling can change that. |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:16:00 -
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so I dipped into the extra isk as a loan, spent about 30mil of it but also spent 30mil of my own for a total of 60mil. I am wondering what they will do with all of the stuff I bought. Will they be able to tell the difference between the stuff I bought from the loan and my own personal isk. I'm guessing I'll come out at the end with a loss, but that my own fault for trying to play the system. |
Synthetic Perception
Venilen Eugenics Agency
29
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:23:00 -
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Quote:Smells like CCP is trying to setup an explanation as to why they are going to have to do a complete reset.
I say do it.
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
488
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:33:00 -
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Those who went negative and are now being rewarded, should have all their assets and salvage wiped, regardless of how much they over-spent.
Either that or CCP should force them to use nothing but unmodified starter fits for the next two weeks (minimum of 2 hours a day playing, otherwise the day won't count towards the two weeks). Any ISK gained through matches will be taxed 100%. After the players two week 2 hours a day minimum probationary period, they will be allowed to use their assets but still start off at 0 ISK. |
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Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
30
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Posted - 2013.06.01 06:48:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Those who went negative and are now being rewarded, should have all their assets and salvage wiped, regardless of how much they over-spent.
Either that or CCP should force them to use nothing but unmodified starter fits for the next two weeks (minimum of 2 hours a day playing, otherwise the day won't count towards the two weeks). Any ISK gained through matches will be taxed 100%. After the players two week 2 hours a day minimum probationary period, they will be allowed to use their assets but still start off at 0 ISK.
Better yet, have their wallets set to 0 ISK with an 80% tax until they pay back whatever they owe. This way if they run low on a single equipment type or want to try something new they still have that 20% to pay for it. Seems fair to me. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
354
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Posted - 2013.06.01 06:55:00 -
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I want my 140 million ISK back then. |
Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1424
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:03:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:CCP, you told us we would have our ISK removed, many of us accepted it and we understood that our ISK would be in the negative if we spent it, I knew this, many people I know knew this and the ones that spent money understood they'd be negative and that it would take them a while to make money to get up to Positive numbers.
Yes we had a few ragers "AMAGAD I SPENT ALL THAT MONEY AND I DIDN'T KNOW!!!!1111!" and people who used this load of money to fund their Corps with enough money to continue buying Genolution packs in PC, making any economic warfare and attrition mean nothing. They got angry they were going to lose this advantage and cried.
We got our negative ISK and accepted it, but then found out that if we relogged, we'd have 0 ISK, meaning that you only got punished if you didn't spend the hundreds of millions that ISK that you got through a bug. I could've made sure I had 100s of tanks in my inventory, instead, I took the smart approach and didn't spent that much, I ended up in 46 Million ISK in debt, something I could eventually pay off with no issues. Everyone else that decided to spend between 200-500million, that they couldn't pay off for a long time, just got a get out of jail free card.
What the hell CCP?
You do realize that they're working to remove any ISK donations and assets that were purchased with the ISK used, right? I mean, it's going to suck right now and there's going to be some BS with PC but there's a lot of **** to iron out. No game is perfect and Eve Online has had worse scandals/issues than this.
Just saying, you think people got reimbursed for the ships they lost when Aperature Harmonics abused the absolute **** out of the Tracking Disruptor/Wormhole Effects issue that gave them perfect damage at unlimited range? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
535
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:04:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Those who went negative and are now being rewarded, should have all their assets and salvage wiped, regardless of how much they over-spent.
Either that or CCP should force them to use nothing but unmodified starter fits for the next two weeks (minimum of 2 hours a day playing, otherwise the day won't count towards the two weeks). Any ISK gained through matches will be taxed 100%. After the players two week 2 hours a day minimum probationary period, they will be allowed to use their assets but still start off at 0 ISK. that would barely even touch the millions of ISK some people got, would take them months to make it back like it should. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1642
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:36:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Big miku wrote:Crybabies in the thread. Haha, foolish. Why do you think the bailout happened? Crying Scammers. So if people want to stand up and post about this, then they will. CCP has seen the legit complaints about caving to those who obviously got rid of the dirty isk quick. No amount of your trolling can change that. It's only QQ if it's ain't coming from him |
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