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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 16:28:00 -
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CCP, you told us we would have our ISK removed, many of us accepted it and we understood that our ISK would be in the negative if we spent it, I knew this, many people I know knew this and the ones that spent money understood they'd be negative and that it would take them a while to make money to get up to Positive numbers.
Yes we had a few ragers "AMAGAD I SPENT ALL THAT MONEY AND I DIDN'T KNOW!!!!1111!" and people who used this load of money to fund their Corps with enough money to continue buying Genolution packs in PC, making any economic warfare and attrition mean nothing. They got angry they were going to lose this advantage and cried.
We got our negative ISK and accepted it, but then found out that if we relogged, we'd have 0 ISK, meaning that you only got punished if you didn't spend the hundreds of millions that ISK that you got through a bug. I could've made sure I had 100s of tanks in my inventory, instead, I took the smart approach and didn't spent that much, I ended up in 46 Million ISK in debt, something I could eventually pay off with no issues. Everyone else that decided to spend between 200-500million, that they couldn't pay off for a long time, just got a get out of jail free card.
What the hell CCP? |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 16:38:00 -
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Source? I had -46 Million ISK, I relogged and had 0 ISK, same with everyone else on my comms, everyone that had negative ISK and relogged now has 0 ISK and earning money. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:11:00 -
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Glad about GM Grave's post, solves a lot of issues.
The majority of things I post, I post for a reason. I only make a post if it's personally affected myself or the people I talk too so I can actually say that everyone who I spoke to about being in debt had their ISK reset to 0, I don't make **** up :)
For people to make idiotic statements defending giving everyone a clean slate, why 0? Why not let everyone have the original money? You say it's "not a punishment" but it actually is, whilst the point I'm making actually means nothing because of the post from GM Grave, it was a punishment in the simplest of sense, I didn't spend the money like everyone else, therefore I didn't get all the extra assets worth 300m+ but others did. Punished for being a good player. What makes me facepalm the most though is people saying it's okay to be done, because it was a glitch. No, abusing a glitch is an exploit for which you can and should be banned for.
CCP should work on a fix for those who lost more money than they should've and should give everyone who was in debt, their debt back, and then they should make a clear way in game to sell off assets to get out of debt, but making it an option. If someone has 300m ISK of debt, because they have 300m ISK of assets, let them either sell those assets or use them to work themselves back up. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1499
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:07:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:So I'm confused about something: what the hell is the problem that's got everyone's panties in a twist?
CCP reset the negative balance players to 0 ISK so they can still enjoy playing as much as possible and sometime in the near future CCP will go through and look at each player individually to correct any mistake or remove assets from the player equal to the amount they were negative.
Exploit or not an exploit who gives a ****? Anybody that spent that money is an idiot. Either it was a small amount that suddenly appeared and you didn't notice in which case it won't be a big deal for you to pay it back. Or it was a huge amount (over 500,000,000 ISK for me, for example) and you spent it or donated it or whatever which means you're an idiot and I have no sympathy for you.
So can somebody tell me what's got everyone so pissed off? This kind of stuff might be slightly time consuming but CCP has a record of everything so being able to see exactly what happened and where the money went is simple. What's the problem?
The problem (too me) was before GM Grave made his post on GD about giving people minus ISK, it was the fact that I had kept spending down, spent 46mil and was in minus cash when I logged on, which I accepted, but found when I relogged I was at 0 and could continue earning money.
This means that everyone who was "smart" enough to donate all the money they got to their Corp Wallets could pay for many Geno packs or could use it as a safety box, and could withdraw it again with no penalty. In a game where it's about economic warfare as much as the Ground and Space battles taking place, this is a massive issue especially considering we're playing "Release" and not a BETA. |
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