And this Ladies and Gentlemen, is why PC isn't going to work with the current format. PC needs to be open to Solo mercs, with Job Board contracts.

Like a CEO can put up a contact asking for 6 mercs with at least a 4 star rating?

Like a CEO can put up a contact asking for 6 mercs with at least a 4 star rating?

When the vast majority of the playerbase creates a coalition to push a minor timezone out of the sandbox and make all districts US timed, there are two things that can happen:

Some fight the coalition for ***** and giggles (CRONOS and Unclaimed.)

US timezone fills the whole PC, making it impossible for anyone else to settle in afterwards.

Now most of dust players are US based. CCP needs to provide the statistics for this, but it is obvious from public server vividity. If CRONOS falls, Dust sandbox will dwindle to US only. When the timers on map are all at early morning to other parts of the world, and the big majority of players are reinforcing those timers, the sandbox would be dead for the rest of the world. Come June 4th, by N-F and EoN pressure, CCP is caving in and releasing timezone swap to district winner instantly. This is a bad move, because it allows the vast majority of players to push everyone else out and set timers, forced by their numbers, into US only for the whole map. This is what happens if CRONOS falls.

Dust514 dies when the sandbox is closed for euro and asia. The chances are slimmer if PC has a good timezone span. CRONOS is holding the last front of timezones outside US in the sandbox. So, either CRONOS survives or Dust dies :)

Pick your side.

Lets not kid ourselves. America is the world leader on this planet. Shoulda been born in the US haters.

so when cronos took 77 districts in the first day that wasn't limiting the sandbox? i don't recall them handing our districts to other EU and Asia timezones? hell the even tried to use the Orion Empire to wipe out there only Us competition... did you have anything to say then?

I'm curious how Euro's envisioned PC would go for them when all Euro corps joined the same alliance? Did you just expect to never have to fight anyone because your timers where during the US lunch time? Did you think US players would just allow you guys to farm isk without any risk to attack due to your monopoly of the Euro TZ?

CRONOS falling will actually be the best possible outcome for Euro players as hopefully they will split apart and join different alliances blending them with their US counterparts allowing for all TZs to be represented by many different alliances.

By creating a EU TZ monopoly in CRONOS you forced CCP to make this change. The best thing for the Euro's would be for CRONOS to fall, because that would end the segregation between US and EU players that exists today.

When the vast majority of the playerbase creates a coalition to push a minor timezone out of the sandbox and make all districts US timed, there are two things that can happen:

Now most of dust players are US based. CCP needs to provide the statistics for this, but it is obvious from public server vividity. If CRONOS falls, Dust sandbox will dwindle to US only. When the timers on map are all at early morning to other parts of the world, and the big majority of players are reinforcing those timers, the sandbox would be dead for the rest of the world. Come June 4th, by N-F and EoN pressure, CCP is caving in and releasing timezone swap to district winner instantly. This is a bad move, because it allows the vast majority of players to push everyone else out and set timers, forced by their numbers, into US only for the whole map. This is what happens if CRONOS falls.

So, either CRONOS survives or Dust dies

CRONOS wants to keep the ISK printer we secured and planned meticulously. .

Kane Spero has convoed everyone on the map to pile up on CRONOS, painting a picture of PC dying to us. This is hardly the case.

You are welcome to try us come June 4th, see how far your allies can carry you.

Expect us to make a move on it come June 4th, when we can finally mount a meaningful offensive to your US timers.

Wow... Pander much? So let me get this straight...

1) If CRONOS fails with timers/PC battles, Dust 514 as a game will cease to exist
2) CRONOS is the underdog because they control 30%+ of Molden Heath
3) NF and EON control what content CCP distributes
4) CRONOS is the only ones that should be able to "push everyone else out and set timers"

This about sum it up?


While I am sure you are trying to meta-game, it sure is a 180 from a post you put up ONE DAY AGO.

Here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=882333#post882333

Some select quotes:









It seems you guys were all for the timers until you starting failscading every PC battle CRONOS fought. From the sound of the above quotes you guys are printing isk and doing just fine, so how is Dust514 let alone CRONOS going to fail if one small change happens?

Unless your master plan was to hide behind EU timers and hope we don't attack on the weekend?

Sorry but NF has players in it from all over the world, so painting us as a US only alliance is not only wrong, but ignorant.

I look forward to your game saving response.

Dust514 dies when the sandbox is closed for euro and asia. The chances are slimmer if PC has a good timezone span. CRONOS is holding the last front of timezones outside US in the sandbox. So, either CRONOS survives or Dust dies :)

Pick your side.

wonder if it ever dawned on them if they win the district that they could make the timer EU? guess not?

The push for not locking districts after conquest isnt a EON nor NF effort.

I've been asking for it since they first announced that districts would be locked after capture. And it is as much of a pain for US than it will be for EU. But even when losing a district, you could still attack it before it gets its RT changed. it's a matter of who is the fastest.

Also, the fact you can change a RT right after conquest is as much a counter-measure to one TZ dominating the other as it will allow a corp making the effort to fight at a difficult time over say, a week-end, to actually change the RT and get in a confort zone for days not everyone can afford playing very late or very early.

Now, let's keep in mind that this is just the beginning of PC. First rules, first region etc.. Many things are bound to evolve.

None the less, you raise a good point about US being the biggest player base. If we're being very honest i'm pretty sure that is how it plays out regarding numbers:

US >> EU > Asia

In terms of TZ, it's obvious US have an edge : few timers to fight in the middle of the night as those would be early morning in europe or late evening in asia. And as asia is probably the smallest player base, one can easily see how that's an advantage.

But this isnt caused by CCP nor PC rules.

The push for not locking districts after conquest isnt a EON nor NF effort.

I've been asking for it since they first announced that districts would be locked after capture.