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KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:55:00 -
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So in a weird twist of fate transformers invaded Dust after the respect. Every other guy seems to be in a yellow suit not fulfilling their intended role. I don't care about their tank anymore if they go logi more power to them if they are healing peeps. Those that are taking advantage of the suits slots however...
Logis should have side arm only, and as I know its a favorite make tell MD a sidearm or change pg/cpu somehow so that's the only viable light weapon without crippling the suit in terms of slots. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:12:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
74
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:15:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:. . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . ,.-GÇÿGÇ¥. . . . . . . . . .``~., . . . . . . . .. . . . . .,.-GÇ¥. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .GÇ£-., . . . . .. . . . . . ..,/. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GÇ¥:, . . . . . . . .. .,?. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\, . . . . . . . . . /. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,} . . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`^`.} . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:GÇ¥. . . ./ . . . . . . .?. . . __. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :`. . . ./ . . . . . . . /__.(. . .GÇ£~-,_. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`. . . .. ./ . . . . . . /(_. . GÇ¥~,_. . . ..GÇ£~,_. . . . . . . . . .,:`. . . . _/ . . . .. .{.._$;_. . .GÇ¥=,_. . . .GÇ£-,_. . . ,.-~-,}, .~GÇ¥; /. .. .} . . .. . .((. . .*~_. . . .GÇ¥=-._. . .GÇ£;,,./`. . /GÇ¥ . . . ./. .. ../ . . . .. . .\`~,. . ..GÇ£~.,. . . . . . . . . ..`. . .}. . . . . . ../ . . . . . .(. ..`=-,,. . . .`. . . . . . . . . . . ..(. . . ;_,,-GÇ¥ . . . . . ../.`~,. . ..`-.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..\. . /\ . . . . . . \`~.*-,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..|,./.....\,__ ,,_. . . . . }.>-._\. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|. . . . . . ..`=~-, . .. `=~-,_\_. . . `\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . .`=~-,,.\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . `:,, . . . . . . . . . . . . . `\. . . . . . ..__ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .`=-,. . . . . . . . . .,%`>--==`` . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _\. . . . . ._,-%. . . ..`
homer simpson is mad
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Xender17
Murderz for hire
114
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:16:00 -
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Dustformers! more then meets the eye! Dustformers! Dusties in disguise! |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
484
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:17:00 -
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I've honestly not seen that many proto logis. At least not anymore than I see proto assault. The real rarities are proto scout and proto sentinel. |
Xender17
Murderz for hire
114
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:17:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:. . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . ,.-GÇÿGÇ¥. . . . . . . . . .``~., . . . . . . . .. . . . . .,.-GÇ¥. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .GÇ£-., . . . . .. . . . . . ..,/. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GÇ¥:, . . . . . . . .. .,?. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\, . . . . . . . . . /. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,} . . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`^`.} . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:GÇ¥. . . ./ . . . . . . .?. . . __. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :`. . . ./ . . . . . . . /__.(. . .GÇ£~-,_. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`. . . .. ./ . . . . . . /(_. . GÇ¥~,_. . . ..GÇ£~,_. . . . . . . . . .,:`. . . . _/ . . . .. .{.._$;_. . .GÇ¥=,_. . . .GÇ£-,_. . . ,.-~-,}, .~GÇ¥; /. .. .} . . .. . .((. . .*~_. . . .GÇ¥=-._. . .GÇ£;,,./`. . /GÇ¥ . . . ./. .. ../ . . . .. . .\`~,. . ..GÇ£~.,. . . . . . . . . ..`. . .}. . . . . . ../ . . . . . .(. ..`=-,,. . . .`. . . . . . . . . . . ..(. . . ;_,,-GÇ¥ . . . . . ../.`~,. . ..`-.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..\. . /\ . . . . . . \`~.*-,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..|,./.....\,__ ,,_. . . . . }.>-._\. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|. . . . . . ..`=~-, . .. `=~-,_\_. . . `\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . .`=~-,,.\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . `:,, . . . . . . . . . . . . . `\. . . . . . ..__ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .`=-,. . . . . . . . . .,%`>--==`` . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _\. . . . . ._,-%. . . ..`
homer simpson is mad ... Captain Picard -_- |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:18:00 -
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Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1911
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:20:00 -
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You know, seeing how good SMG's are, I don't think sidearms only would be a huge nerf. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1507
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:23:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault.
I thought DUST did away with rigidly defined roles.
Isn't the idea to use whatever resources you can to fulfill whatever role you want? |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:25:00 -
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My Boundless Breach SMG kills players indiscriminate of color, because it is boundless. It is boundless, because the color of your drop suit does not matter rather the skill of the person does. |
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Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:26:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. First off it's the Caldari logi that's the problem because the racial bonus makes it seemingly OP. The other suits are far from it unless my Minmatar racial bonus that's only effective in Skirmish somehow intimidates you. Also, Logis have horrible base stats. If you can't beat a logi, just biomass yourself. Dust 514 is obviously too much to handle.
If that's not enough, check my post history. I have plenty of arguments on the subject. You're just beating a dead horse that was already put out of its misery. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
330
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:27:00 -
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I always aim for them first with my LAV. How nice it must be to have lost that 100+k suit to a freetard in a BlapPOmobile :D |
Rolf The Viking
Ill Omens EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:30:00 -
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This seriously needs to be let go. The only suit that's really abused is the Caldari due to the shield bonuses.
I run a Min Logi and guess what, I speed tank a shotgun build most times in Pubs. They're for fun. In PC I run a pure Logi build. If you pull my light weapon you'll find almost no logistics players will be on the field. |
Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
204
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:33:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:My Boundless Breach SMG kills players indiscriminate of color, because it is boundless. It is boundless, because the color of your drop suit does not matter rather the skill of the person does.
Yeah, CCP should drop all the suit varieties and just issue one base suit. You add CPU and PG, pick your slot counts, really desgn it. You'd a have a chorus of creative designs that were unimaginable before. |
ShakeMS
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:37:00 -
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Flight of the Bumblebee! |
DrNoePain
0uter.Heaven League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:55:00 -
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Lol. How bad are you guys at this game. I love all the shield logis running arounds. There slow as hell. Minute they stick there head out they take a year to get back around the corner and are dead by then. Also it's called flux grenades. L2P and stop crying. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:01:00 -
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I thought this thread was going to be about logi LAVs. |
Commander Tuna
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:07:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. First off it's the Caldari logi that's the problem because the racial bonus makes it seemingly OP. The other suits are far from it unless my Minmatar racial bonus that's only effective in Skirmish somehow intimidates you. Also, Logis have horrible base stats. If you can't beat a logi, just biomass yourself. Dust 514 is obviously too much to handle. If that's not enough, check my post history. I have plenty of arguments on the subject. You're just beating a dead horse that was already put out of its misery. Fully agree. The only logis I see not doing their jobs are these faggots. |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
12
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:08:00 -
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Rolf The Viking wrote:This seriously needs to be let go. The only suit that's really abused is the Caldari due to the shield bonuses.
I run a Min Logi and guess what, I speed tank a shotgun build most times in Pubs. They're for fun. In PC I run a pure Logi build. If you pull my light weapon you'll find almost no logistics players will be on the field.
+1
GTFO with "Intended roles" This game promotes choosing and building whatever you want,not what people think you should.
I too play logi and yep! in pubs sometimes I heal,sometimes I heal and assault,sometimes I just play straight logisault.And it is noooo ones business wth I do or don't do with MY suits/fits.
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
863
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:09:00 -
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RKKR wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about logi LAVs.
Don't worry, they'll be joining forces soon. |
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
63
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:11:00 -
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Not bothered by bumble bees. Their tank is still worse than mine and they're slower. YES, you can use them as assault, but apart from having more equipment they aren't better at it than assaults.
Once CCP fixes that damn equipment selection wheel (especially for m/kb users!) and you can actually be a good logi, you'll see tons of people whining. Once it works, it'll be like in EVE...a force multiplier. |
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:18:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:So in a weird twist of fate transformers invaded Dust after the respec. Every other guy seems to be in a yellow suit not fulfilling their intended role. I don't care about their tank anymore if they go logi more power to them if they are healing peeps. Those that are taking advantage of the suits slots however...
Logis should have side arm only, and as I know its a favorite make tell MD a sidearm or change pg/cpu somehow so that's the only viable light weapon without crippling the suit in terms of slots.
Edit: don't come here for respect...stupid autocorrect What you mean to say is just from the Assault Rifle as weapon that Logi's can equip? Sure, I'm ok with that. I'm a Logi and I don't give a damn about my KDR. |
Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
206
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:21:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:So in a weird twist of fate transformers invaded Dust after the respec. Every other guy seems to be in a yellow suit not fulfilling their intended role. I don't care about their tank anymore if they go logi more power to them if they are healing peeps. Those that are taking advantage of the suits slots however...
Logis should have side arm only, and as I know its a favorite make tell MD a sidearm or change pg/cpu somehow so that's the only viable light weapon without crippling the suit in terms of slots.
Edit: don't come here for respect...stupid autocorrect What you mean to say is just from the Assault Rifle as weapon that Logi's can equip? Sure, I'm ok with that. I'm a Logi and I don't give a damn about my KDR.
Yeah, once you adjust to the fact that you're everyone's punching bag and you're never going to do anything significant, several of the suits become fun again. |
Skyhound Solbrave
Rough Riders..
109
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:22:00 -
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Is this seriously a thing again? I hope its a troll.
The Amarr logi is one of the most balanced suits of the game and is SUPPOSED to provide COMBAT SUPPORT. Stop trying to say we're not allowed to kill. I don't get 13 kills and 20 assists because my suit is op, its because I have a better gun game than you and I heal the players that fall at my side.
Oh, and I don't use a tac Ar. I main the regular semi-auto SR. I heal and I kill, its what I do. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:23:00 -
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Commander Tuna wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. First off it's the Caldari logi that's the problem because the racial bonus makes it seemingly OP. The other suits are far from it unless my Minmatar racial bonus that's only effective in Skirmish somehow intimidates you. Also, Logis have horrible base stats. If you can't beat a logi, just biomass yourself. Dust 514 is obviously too much to handle. If that's not enough, check my post history. I have plenty of arguments on the subject. You're just beating a dead horse that was already put out of its misery. Fully agree. The only logis I see not doing their jobs are these faggots.
That's because the assaults (dressed as caldari logi) don't have enough CPU to equip logi-stuff, they need to buff the CPU on that suit ASAP!!!
On a side note: Is the the shield recharge on the Caldari logi still 4 sec? I'm wondering why they have a extra bonus, every other logi suit needs to equip a module for that. Armor types don't get such a bonus and ecven get less shield recharge-rate too. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
147
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:46:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault.
You are an idiot. |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
85
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:07:00 -
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TAC AR and proto caldari logi is the only way to go when 99% of people will be in either proto logi or proto assault suits with guess what? tactical ars......... |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:25:00 -
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Skihids wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. I thought DUST did away with rigidly defined roles. Isn't the idea to use whatever resources you can to fulfill whatever role you want?
Tell that to heavies and veritable plethora of fitting options.... |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:27:00 -
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hooc order wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. You are an idiot.
Again no backup to your insult thanks for playing but only in counter arguments accepted. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:28:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:hooc order wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. You are an idiot. Again no backup to your insult thanks for playing but only counter arguments accepted.
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
471
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:35:00 -
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I have been assault in every other build, chose Cal logi this build since assaults no longer got two equipment slots in proto.
My role is basically a hybrid, I don't revive or heal (although I do have proto injectors just in case), but I do provide the team with proto hives, uplinks, and I may get back into active scanning too.
Being in this logi suit has made me lean more towards a supportive role than a slayer, just too hard to ignore all those equipment slots and the variety of gameplay it offers me. These logi suits are pretty much a jack of all trades suit, not really specialized for any one thing, but you can make it whatever you want it to be, and I think that is the biggest reason why so many are using them. It's what this game should be like, more open and giving the players choices, rather than being a restricted SP sink that it is with most other classes and suits. |
GVGISDEAD
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:51:00 -
[32] - Quote
After the nerf the next in line to be in op threads are Minmatar assault and logistics.
The assault variant is the nearest thing in high slot power plus it has a built in repair. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
289
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:54:00 -
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Its no secret the Caldari have always favored shields for defense. I agree, it is a bit out of hand, but if CCP simply dialed back the passive bonus and increased the passive bonuses to the other suits, I'd wager we would have the game pretty well balanced. As for now, there are counters to the situation we currently have access to. Among them is the flux grenade which serves to disrupt our shielding. Even us Caldari assaults freak out when we get "fluxed" because, as a race, we are so heavily reliant on shields to keep us safe.
Situations like these are being "monitored" according to CCP. We should be careful how we respond because we don't want to bash the suits with the nerf hammer into an abysmal state of uselessness the way the tactical rifles were in Chromosome. Simply put, they were worthless. I don't want to see that happen again. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
132
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:57:00 -
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Skihids wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. I thought DUST did away with rigidly defined roles. Isn't the idea to use whatever resources you can to fulfill whatever role you want?
Tell that to the Heavies. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
250
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:01:00 -
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NoxiousMentos wrote:Rolf The Viking wrote:This seriously needs to be let go. The only suit that's really abused is the Caldari due to the shield bonuses.
I run a Min Logi and guess what, I speed tank a shotgun build most times in Pubs. They're for fun. In PC I run a pure Logi build. If you pull my light weapon you'll find almost no logistics players will be on the field. +1 GTFO with "Intended roles" This game promotes choosing and building whatever you want,not what people think you should. I too play logi and yep! in pubs sometimes I heal,sometimes I heal and assault,sometimes I just play straight logisault.And it is noooo ones business wth I do or don't do with MY suits/fits.
Doesn't Eve promote choosing and building whatever you want?
How often to do you see Scimitars with all DPS fits? |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1751
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:03:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:Hmmm shameless trolling...
Please backup your facepalm
A logistics role is the LOGISTICS not leading a charge like an assault. You seem to think logistics are medics but fail to justify that belief. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
179
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:04:00 -
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Dumb enough to go tar knowing everyone would be shield? Lol they are fine the way they are and I run minmitar assault |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
13
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:17:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Rolf The Viking wrote:This seriously needs to be let go. The only suit that's really abused is the Caldari due to the shield bonuses.
I run a Min Logi and guess what, I speed tank a shotgun build most times in Pubs. They're for fun. In PC I run a pure Logi build. If you pull my light weapon you'll find almost no logistics players will be on the field. +1 GTFO with "Intended roles" This game promotes choosing and building whatever you want,not what people think you should. I too play logi and yep! in pubs sometimes I heal,sometimes I heal and assault,sometimes I just play straight logisault.And it is noooo ones business wth I do or don't do with MY suits/fits. Doesn't Eve promote choosing and building whatever you want? How often to do you see Scimitars with all DPS fits?
What does Eve have to do with this specific topic?
And I have no idea what you are referring to so I guess...never? |
Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
121
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:18:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:Is this seriously a thing again? I hope its a troll.
The Amarr logi is one of the most balanced suits of the game and is SUPPOSED to provide COMBAT SUPPORT. Stop trying to say we're not allowed to kill. I don't get 13 kills and 20 assists because my suit is op, its because I have a better gun game than you and I heal the players that fall at my side.
Oh, and I don't use a tac Ar. I main the regular semi-auto SR. I heal and I kill, its what I do.
I would agree with you if they brought the Amarr logi PG up to around the others.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
250
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:37:00 -
[40] - Quote
NoxiousMentos wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Rolf The Viking wrote:This seriously needs to be let go. The only suit that's really abused is the Caldari due to the shield bonuses.
I run a Min Logi and guess what, I speed tank a shotgun build most times in Pubs. They're for fun. In PC I run a pure Logi build. If you pull my light weapon you'll find almost no logistics players will be on the field. +1 GTFO with "Intended roles" This game promotes choosing and building whatever you want,not what people think you should. I too play logi and yep! in pubs sometimes I heal,sometimes I heal and assault,sometimes I just play straight logisault.And it is noooo ones business wth I do or don't do with MY suits/fits. Doesn't Eve promote choosing and building whatever you want? How often to do you see Scimitars with all DPS fits? What does Eve have to do with this specific topic? And I have no idea what you are referring to so I guess...never?
Intended Roles.
Scimitar == Minmatar Logi in Eve. In my experience, they primarily have Shield Transporters with maybe a Civilian Gatling Autocannon so they can ***** on killmails.
I was drawing a correlation between two games set in the same game Universe that also have similar philosophies though different platforms.
Logi =/= Assault Logi == Logi Assault == Assault |
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
77
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:39:00 -
[41] - Quote
I do not agree with nerfing all the Logi suits because of one suit or taking away their light weapon of choice. However, having one suit that can be better at everything when compared to all of the alternatives is OP.
The best suggestion I have heard is reducing the PG/CPU, I would suggest to a level below the equivalent Assault, but give the Logi suit a PG/CPU modifier to equipment i.e. they get a bonus reduction to fitting equipment. This way the Logi can do the job of medic or specialist role like demolitions, and with correct balancing, fit any variation of equipment they want but won't be able to tank everything in sight by fitting complex everything.
It will also allow for restrictions on what other suits can fit and thus ensuring an important place in the squad for a Logi. They will not have the strongest defence, attack or speed but they will remain the most flexible in terms of support. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:44:00 -
[42] - Quote
NoxiousMentos wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Rolf The Viking wrote:This seriously needs to be let go. The only suit that's really abused is the Caldari due to the shield bonuses.
I run a Min Logi and guess what, I speed tank a shotgun build most times in Pubs. They're for fun. In PC I run a pure Logi build. If you pull my light weapon you'll find almost no logistics players will be on the field. +1 GTFO with "Intended roles" This game promotes choosing and building whatever you want,not what people think you should. I too play logi and yep! in pubs sometimes I heal,sometimes I heal and assault,sometimes I just play straight logisault.And it is noooo ones business wth I do or don't do with MY suits/fits. Doesn't Eve promote choosing and building whatever you want? How often to do you see Scimitars with all DPS fits? What does Eve have to do with this specific topic? And I have no idea what you are re ferring to so I guess...never?
Silly dusty scimitar is a logistics ship it gets bonus to remote reps and another ewar type buff so fitting damage mods and really big guns would be dumb see the parallel?
As for me not backing up my argument google the definition of logistics and assault. Obviously you don't know the definition of the two. |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
13
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:46:00 -
[43] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Rolf The Viking wrote:This seriously needs to be let go. The only suit that's really abused is the Caldari due to the shield bonuses.
I run a Min Logi and guess what, I speed tank a shotgun build most times in Pubs. They're for fun. In PC I run a pure Logi build. If you pull my light weapon you'll find almost no logistics players will be on the field. +1 GTFO with "Intended roles" This game promotes choosing and building whatever you want,not what people think you should. I too play logi and yep! in pubs sometimes I heal,sometimes I heal and assault,sometimes I just play straight logisault.And it is noooo ones business wth I do or don't do with MY suits/fits. Doesn't Eve promote choosing and building whatever you want? How often to do you see Scimitars with all DPS fits? What does Eve have to do with this specific topic? And I have no idea what you are referring to so I guess...never? Intended Roles. Scimitar == Minmatar Logi in Eve. In my experience, they primarily have Shield Transporters with maybe a Civilian Gatling Autocannon so they can ***** on killmails. I was drawing a correlation between two games set in the same game Universe that also have similar philosophies though different platforms. Logi =/= Assault Logi == Logi Assault == Assault
Good response and well said.These forums could use more of this instead of all of the troll variations of "NUH UH"
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NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
14
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:51:00 -
[44] - Quote
KOBLAKA1 wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:NoxiousMentos wrote:Rolf The Viking wrote:This seriously needs to be let go. The only suit that's really abused is the Caldari due to the shield bonuses.
I run a Min Logi and guess what, I speed tank a shotgun build most times in Pubs. They're for fun. In PC I run a pure Logi build. If you pull my light weapon you'll find almost no logistics players will be on the field. +1 GTFO with "Intended roles" This game promotes choosing and building whatever you want,not what people think you should. I too play logi and yep! in pubs sometimes I heal,sometimes I heal and assault,sometimes I just play straight logisault.And it is noooo ones business wth I do or don't do with MY suits/fits. Doesn't Eve promote choosing and building whatever you want? How often to do you see Scimitars with all DPS fits? What does Eve have to do with this specific topic? And I have no idea what you are re ferring to so I guess...never? Silly dusty scimitar is a logistics ship it gets bonus to remote reps and another ewar type buff so fitting damage mods and really big guns would be dumb see the parallel? As for me not backing up my argument google the definition of logistics and assault. Obviously you don't know the definition of the two.
Sorry but I do not let google decide what I do or how I play my games.In my google experience I would be a very messed up individual by now if I did.Look at any other MMO and google a class/roll.I can almost promise you people have found new and creative ways to use them effectively.
And ya I am just a lowly dusty lol.I would like to try eve and play both but the laptop doesn't run it well enough for me.
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Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:53:00 -
[45] - Quote
C Logi +Duvolle Tact + Modded controller...
congratulations, you've won Dust514... |
NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
14
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:57:00 -
[46] - Quote
Jenza's Pants wrote:C Logi +Duvolle Tact + Modded controller...
congratulations, you've won Dust514...
Minnie Logi,GLU Tact,regular controller. I'm halfway there! |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:59:00 -
[47] - Quote
Sorry if it sounded trollish but I meant like Webster dictionary definition not MMO class roles. Would dictionary.com be more suitable to your tastes. +1 for the retort rather than a shameless gtfo.
Also decent pg/cpu reduction and a boost let's say -25% even to equipment usage just on every logi would be agreeable. I don't need mean to say they shouldn't partici.pate in combat but 17/0 with only WP from kills is a little wrong and not the intent of the suit |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1757
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:14:00 -
[48] - Quote
KOBLAKA1 wrote:Sorry if it sounded trollish but I meant like Webster dictionary definition not MMO class roles. Would dictionary.com be more suitable to your tastes. +1 for the retort rather than a shameless gtfo.
Um, you realise that in this context "logistics" and "assault" are specialised jargon which mean whatever CCP want them to mean? Falling back on dictionary definitions of words as grounds for disagreement is a weak troll.
I don't think you know what the intent of the suit is. If the intent of the suit was purely to run a supply fitting, then the customisation options would not exist and there would be restrictions on what gear could be fit to the suit.
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NoxiousMentos
Bojo's School of the Trades
14
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:16:00 -
[49] - Quote
KOBLAKA1 wrote:Sorry if it sounded trollish but I meant like Webster dictionary definition not MMO class roles. Would dictionary.com be more suitable to your tastes. +1 for the retort rather than a shameless gtfo.
Also decent pg/cpu reduction and a boost let's say -25% even to equipment usage just on every logi would be agreeable. I don't need mean to say they shouldn't partici.pate in combat but 17/0 with only WP from kills is a little wrong and not the intent of the suit
All good man and ditto to you on the response.I do know the difference though lol,I just don't see the problem with thinking outside the box (or in this case:definitions)
Your idea could work if it was done right.If not it seems like it would just even itself out and be about the same.
As long as I can carry equipment and a light weapon I could give a crap about what gets nerfed.The module slots are awesome but take some away if it comes to it. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:40:00 -
[50] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Sorry if it sounded trollish but I meant like Webster dictionary definition not MMO class roles. Would dictionary.com be more suitable to your tastes. +1 for the retort rather than a shameless gtfo. Um, you realise that in this context "logistics" and "assault" are specialised jargon which mean whatever CCP want them to mean? Falling back on dictionary definitions of words as grounds for disagreement is a weak troll. I don't think you know what the intent of the suit is. If the intent of the suit was purely to run a supply fitting, then the customisation options would not exist and there would be restrictions on what gear could be fit to the suit.
Logistics equals supply and triage. CCP wouldn't have called the suit logistics on a whim. If the intent was omnirole then they would have called it "jack of all trades" or I don't know assault. If you pick logistics the intent shouldn't be loads of kills like the caldari suit is being abused for. You pick a logistics to throw down equipment and provide heals, then contribute to. combat. I understand that's not always situationally viable but they shouldn't outperform a class whose intended role is dps. |
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Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
317
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Posted - 2013.05.30 00:38:00 -
[51] - Quote
KOBLAKA1 wrote:
Logistics equals supply and triage. CCP wouldn't have called the suit logistics on a whim. If the intent was omnirole then they would have called it "jack of all trades" or I don't know assault. If you pick logistics the intent shouldn't be loads of kills like the caldari suit is being abused for. You pick a logistics to throw down equipment and provide heals, then contribute to. combat. I understand that's not always situationally viable but they shouldn't outperform a class whose intended role is dps.
Many players play a different variant of logistic, for example while I never run with the tools you speak of I do provide support through holding points with RE's, dropping up-links, and nanohives to provide ammo and to re-up on RE's. Logi suits are currently the only ones with more than 1 equipment slot. Assault variants (especially shields due to the recharge bonus) are the superior killers but for many players only having one equipment slot is the deal breaker. If the assault suits where to once again have 2 equipment slots I guarantee half of these "killer bees" would disappear. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:12:00 -
[52] - Quote
I still love how the OP still says all logis need to be nerfed...
Not like the CaLogi needs one either. That thing is so slow, it really does need that racial bonus. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:14:00 -
[53] - Quote
Deluxe Edition wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:
Logistics equals supply and triage. CCP wouldn't have called the suit logistics on a whim. If the intent was omnirole then they would have called it "jack of all trades" or I don't know assault. If you pick logistics the intent shouldn't be loads of kills like the caldari suit is being abused for. You pick a logistics to throw down equipment and provide heals, then contribute to. combat. I understand that's not always situationally viable but they shouldn't outperform a class whose intended role is dps.
Many players play a different variant of logistic, for example while I never run with the tools you speak of I do provide support through holding points with RE's, dropping up-links, and nanohives to provide ammo and to re-up on RE's. Logi suits are currently the only ones with more than 1 equipment slot. Assault variants (especially shields due to the recharge bonus) are the superior killers but for many players only having one equipment slot is the deal breaker. If the assault suits where to once again have 2 equipment slots I guarantee half of these "killer bees" would disappear.
Which is completely cool because guess what you are fulfilling a logistics/engineering role "demolition" while also dropping equipment for the team. You are not out assaulting the enemy lines toe to toe with assault ans heavies.
+1 for showing another role logos fill that is not assault |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:16:00 -
[54] - Quote
KOBLAKA1 wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Sorry if it sounded trollish but I meant like Webster dictionary definition not MMO class roles. Would dictionary.com be more suitable to your tastes. +1 for the retort rather than a shameless gtfo. Um, you realise that in this context "logistics" and "assault" are specialised jargon which mean whatever CCP want them to mean? Falling back on dictionary definitions of words as grounds for disagreement is a weak troll. I don't think you know what the intent of the suit is. If the intent of the suit was purely to run a supply fitting, then the customisation options would not exist and there would be restrictions on what gear could be fit to the suit. Logistics equals supply and triage. CCP wouldn't have called the suit logistics on a whim. If the intent was omnirole then they would have called it "jack of all trades" or I don't know assault. If you pick logistics the intent shouldn't be loads of kills like the caldari suit is being abused for. You pick a logistics to throw down equipment and provide heals, then contribute to. combat. I understand that's not always situationally viable but they shouldn't outperform a class whose intended role is dps. Tell that to Remnant, the guy who designed the dropsuits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcB8mKo9SV4 |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
365
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:20:00 -
[55] - Quote
KOBLAKA1 wrote:So in a weird twist of fate transformers invaded Dust after the respec. Every other guy seems to be in a yellow suit not fulfilling their intended role. I don't care about their tank anymore if they go logi more power to them if they are healing peeps. Those that are taking advantage of the suits slots however...
Logis should have side arm only, and as I know its a favorite make tell MD a sidearm or change pg/cpu somehow so that's the only viable light weapon without crippling the suit in terms of slots.
Edit: don't come here for respect...stupid autocorrect
I AGREE. Death to the TARS! |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:24:00 -
[56] - Quote
Cosgar's Alt wrote:I still love how the OP still says all logis need to be nerfed...
Not like the CaLogi needs one either. That thing is so slow, it really does need that racial bonus.
Pretty sure I agreed that pg/cpu reduction with a reduction on the pg/cpu needs of equipment once it was suggested. Which in all hopes buffs their logistical capabilities I know fitting uplinks cam be a pain sometimes. That's why its a discussion: to come up with a progressive view of the sitution. You seem to be stuck on the past because I gave a valid retort that stumped you and can't progress with the rest of us. |
Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
39
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:35:00 -
[57] - Quote
Logistics: The detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies. Now at that Assault & Logi are supposed to be variations of medium not complete opposites That being said they should have equal module layouts from assault to logi (keep in mind this solves ALL problems*) *Besides changing Cal logi bonus
The whole choice is the following when choosing a suit in medium role Logi: More CPU/PG, More equipment/Lacks sidearm (More tactical role*) Assault: More Armor/Shields/Speed, Has sidearm (More assault role) *see definition
Now as said about balancing a huge part of this game is choice of play style, this is possible by having equal slots on both logi & assault while both also can carry a light weapon Gal: Make the Assault suit like it's Logi in module layout Cal: Make the Logi suit like it's Assault in module layout Min: Get players who use this suit for judgement in module layout whether Assault or Logi Ammar: Get players who use this suit for judgement in module layout whether Assault or Logi
Once you do such changes there will be no OP suit and Assault suits and Logi suits will both be completely at their players wanted role. Absolutely no other changes are needed, such wanted like further armor/sheild, speed, pg/cpu, only sidearm are incredibly stupid and unneeded as the problem is soley routed at modules. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:36:00 -
[58] - Quote
KOBLAKA1 wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:I still love how the OP still says all logis need to be nerfed...
Not like the CaLogi needs one either. That thing is so slow, it really does need that racial bonus. Pretty sure I agreed that pg/cpu reduction with a reduction on the pg/cpu needs of equipment once it was suggested. Which in all hopes buffs their logistical capabilities I know fitting uplinks cam be a pain sometimes. That's why its a discussion: to come up with a progressive view of the sitution. You seem to be stuck on the past because I gave a valid retort that stumped you and can't progress with the rest of us. Actually, I've been arguing against changes to the logi class for so long, I rather play it before people like you **** it up. I'm stuck on mobile right now, but wait until I get home if you really want a formal response. But you seemed to miss the video, I linked a few posts back. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:37:00 -
[59] - Quote
Cosgar's Alt wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Sorry if it sounded trollish but I meant like Webster dictionary definition not MMO class roles. Would dictionary.com be more suitable to your tastes. +1 for the retort rather than a shameless gtfo. Um, you realise that in this context "logistics" and "assault" are specialised jargon which mean whatever CCP want them to mean? Falling back on dictionary definitions of words as grounds for disagreement is a weak troll. I don't think you know what the intent of the suit is. If the intent of the suit was purely to run a supply fitting, then the customisation options would not exist and there would be restrictions on what gear could be fit to the suit. Logistics equals supply and triage. CCP wouldn't have called the suit logistics on a whim. If the intent was omnirole then they would have called it "jack of all trades" or I don't know assault. If you pick logistics the intent shouldn't be loads of kills like the caldari suit is being abused for. You pick a logistics to throw down equipment and provide heals, then contribute to. combat. I understand that's not always situationally viable but they shouldn't outperform a class whose intended role is dps. Tell that to Remnant, the guy who designed the dropsuits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcB8mKo9SV4
Your video helps my argument threefold.
Firstly a "logistics sustains his allies" = provides repairs ammo and revives Secondly, a "fast hacker" that c"an't stand toe-to-toe with the enemy" Thirdly, he is using a sidearmor (dmv) which I do believe was in my original post which would also flow with the reduced pg/cpu proposal as a sidearm uses less of both. |
Henchmen21
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:44:00 -
[60] - Quote
I have low hp and average speed but I keep my team spawning close to the action into relative safety. I'll resupply them and rez them. I'll also shoot you if the opportunity presents itself. Doing so much for the team shouldn't mean I can't defend myself. After all how can I drop the uplink behind your lines and thus begin the steamrolling if I can't fight my way back there to begin with? |
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Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
95
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
"Dear CCP,
When I came to Dust, I decided to play assault suits because my FPS skills are leet, and I am awesome at killing everybody. But now I keep getting killed by all these MEDICS!!! If their suits are capable of killing the designated killing class, then they must be OP. They should be following me around and giving me ammo and healing me and ressing me and hugging me and other MEDIC stuff. They exist to serve me, and I am sick and tired of them taking my kills instead of following me around with a medkit. They should also be a free kill when I find one alone because medic. Obviously.
In conclusions, please nerf medics.
Sincerely, 420KillerElite
P.S. I am also told on good authority that these medics are capable of being better than Assaults in every single Stat category AT THE SAME TIME! WTF!"
Seriously, the reason so many assault players are using logi now is because of their increased versatility in competitive play and the fact that the suit bonuses on racial Assaults are lackluster at best, and typically inconsequential. That and the Caldari logi actually has a useful bonus, which is currently a rarity (and it shouldn't be). Since there's little need for many dedicated logistics players in the chaotic and pointless pub games, most logis just roll out a killer fit for them. It's nice to do something different. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:59:00 -
[62] - Quote
I guess everyone has one role and role one only. If you're a logi you can't get kills and if you're and an assault you only get to kill people... seriously that's just dumb.
If I can put up the same kill totals with a logi suit as I do in an assault suit plus I can now revive teammates, provide ammo, and repair. Why is that bad? So what if I have a ton of shields you see me coming throw a flux nade and I'm done.
Why not be an elite killer and support your teammates? |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:02:00 -
[63] - Quote
stlcarlos989 wrote:I guess everyone has one role and role one only. If you're a logi you can't get kills and if you're and an assault you only get to kill people... seriously that's just dumb.
If I can put up the same kill totals with a logi suit as I do in an assault suit plus I can now revive teammates, provide ammo, and repair. Why is that bad? So what if I have a ton of shields you see me coming throw a flux nade and I'm done.
Why not be an elite killer and support your teammates?
Your argument boils down to everyone spec logi and that's why its a problem. The suits are unbalanced and that is an issue when this game is supposed to be balanced. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:08:00 -
[64] - Quote
KOBLAKA1 wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:I guess everyone has one role and role one only. If you're a logi you can't get kills and if you're and an assault you only get to kill people... seriously that's just dumb.
If I can put up the same kill totals with a logi suit as I do in an assault suit plus I can now revive teammates, provide ammo, and repair. Why is that bad? So what if I have a ton of shields you see me coming throw a flux nade and I'm done.
Why not be an elite killer and support your teammates? Your argument boils down to everyone spec logi and that's why its a problem. The suits are unbalanced and that is an issue when this game is supposed to be balanced.
They are not unbalanced, They have only which means they have a glaring weakness, you get killed by a Caldari logi with godly shields switch to a load out with flux nades. I have a flux nade loadout I use when I see proto Caldari logis in game. |
SmileB4Death
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
102
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:09:00 -
[65] - Quote
Yeah man make logi's only have sidearms! But I want a HMG sidearm. No point in making the change otherwise. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
72
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:48:00 -
[66] - Quote
A'Real Fury wrote:I do not agree with nerfing all the Logi suits because of one suit or taking away their light weapon of choice. However, having one suit that can be better at everything when compared to all of the alternatives is OP.
The best suggestion I have heard is reducing the PG/CPU, I would suggest to a level below the equivalent Assault, but give the Logi suit a PG/CPU modifier to equipment i.e. they get a bonus reduction to fitting equipment. This way the Logi can do the job of medic or specialist role like demolitions, and with correct balancing, fit any variation of equipment they want but won't be able to tank everything in sight by fitting complex everything.
It will also allow for restrictions on what other suits can fit and thus ensuring an important place in the squad for a Logi. They will not have the strongest defence, attack or speed but they will remain the most flexible in terms of support.
This is a bad idea because our top tier equipment requires a lot of PG/CPU, so we have to rely on basic shield and armor to survive, and if the medic can't stay alive how can you? |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:07:00 -
[67] - Quote
Logistics CK.0 VS Assault CK.0 Max PG >78 KW > 60 KW Max CPU> 390 GF > 380 Shield > 180 HP > 210 HP Armor > 90 HP > 120 HP Shield Recharge Rate > 20.0 HP/s > 25.0 HP/s Shield Recharge Delay > 4.0 S > 5.0 S Shield Depleted Recharge Delay > 6.0 S > 8.0 S Armor Repair Rate > 0 > 0 Movement Speed > 4.7 M/s > 5.0 M/s Sprint Speed > 6.6 M/s > 7.0 M/s Sprint Duration > 11.5 s > 15.0 S Stamina > 115.0 > 150.0 Stamina Recovery Rate > 12.0/s > 15.0/s Scan Profile > 50 DB > 50 DB Scan Precision > 50 DB > 55 DB Scan Radius > 10.0 M > 10.0 M Melee Damage > 110.0 HP > 110.0 HP Logistics Suit Bonus: Assault Suit Bonus: +5 HP/s Armor Repair Rate +25% Dropsuit shield recharge rate Caldari Logistics Suit Bonus: Caldari Assault Suit Bonus +25% Efficiency of shield extender modules +10& Hybrid weapon reload speed (possibly bugged) Fitting: 5H/3E/4L/1LW 4H/1E/3L/1LW/1SA Obviously, the CaLogi's stats are inferior to the Assault in almost every way. The only thing that needs to be changed, is the racial bonus which should be toned down to 2~3% per level. Other logis are absolutely fine, unless you can convince me otherwise. |
Slash Phage
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:39:00 -
[68] - Quote
"I was logi BEFORE it was cool!"
Yesterday in a pub ambush I counted 5 logi suits and 3 Assault. lol. I don-¦t expect the nerf hammer to fall on the logistic, more of a buff to the assault boni. But I would learn to handle a nerf anyway because I-¦m a logi by blood.
I-¦m a mediocre player and have 8mil SP. Not a single one went into weapons and I still need millions to make the proto suit worth it. So please noobs, if you want to play assault get an assault suit and spare us the QQ after the fix. Where does this mentality comes from? Oh TAR is OP, I get one! Oh logi has more slots, I get one! I-¦ll just love your tears when CCP fix this issues.
Find your playstyle and skill that way. Trying to make shortcuts and to jump on the flavor of the week does not cut it in the long run. This is an RPG and I don-¦t expect any full respec in the future and so should you.
On the plus side: Many high SP players are running logi suits now. They have needles (they will work again in the future). And they can support the noobies floating in.
TL:DR: Real logis will enjoy the delicous tears after the fix. |
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