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Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:47:00 -
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"Dear CCP,
When I came to Dust, I decided to play assault suits because my FPS skills are leet, and I am awesome at killing everybody. But now I keep getting killed by all these MEDICS!!! If their suits are capable of killing the designated killing class, then they must be OP. They should be following me around and giving me ammo and healing me and ressing me and hugging me and other MEDIC stuff. They exist to serve me, and I am sick and tired of them taking my kills instead of following me around with a medkit. They should also be a free kill when I find one alone because medic. Obviously.
In conclusions, please nerf medics.
Sincerely,
420KillerElite
P.S. I am also told on good authority that these medics are capable of being better than Assaults in every single Stat category AT THE SAME TIME! WTF!"
Seriously, the reason so many assault players are using logi now is because of their increased versatility in competitive play and the fact that the suit bonuses on racial Assaults are lackluster at best, and typically inconsequential. That and the Caldari logi actually has a useful bonus, which is currently a rarity (and it shouldn't be). Since there's little need for many dedicated logistics players in the chaotic and pointless pub games, most logis just roll out a killer fit for them. It's nice to do something different. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:59:00 -
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I guess everyone has one role and role one only. If you're a logi you can't get kills and if you're and an assault you only get to kill people... seriously that's just dumb.
If I can put up the same kill totals with a logi suit as I do in an assault suit plus I can now revive teammates, provide ammo, and repair. Why is that bad? So what if I have a ton of shields you see me coming throw a flux nade and I'm done.
Why not be an elite killer and support your teammates? |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:02:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:I guess everyone has one role and role one only. If you're a logi you can't get kills and if you're and an assault you only get to kill people... seriously that's just dumb.
If I can put up the same kill totals with a logi suit as I do in an assault suit plus I can now revive teammates, provide ammo, and repair. Why is that bad? So what if I have a ton of shields you see me coming throw a flux nade and I'm done.
Why not be an elite killer and support your teammates?
Your argument boils down to everyone spec logi and that's why its a problem. The suits are unbalanced and that is an issue when this game is supposed to be balanced. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:08:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:I guess everyone has one role and role one only. If you're a logi you can't get kills and if you're and an assault you only get to kill people... seriously that's just dumb.
If I can put up the same kill totals with a logi suit as I do in an assault suit plus I can now revive teammates, provide ammo, and repair. Why is that bad? So what if I have a ton of shields you see me coming throw a flux nade and I'm done.
Why not be an elite killer and support your teammates? Your argument boils down to everyone spec logi and that's why its a problem. The suits are unbalanced and that is an issue when this game is supposed to be balanced.
They are not unbalanced, They have only which means they have a glaring weakness, you get killed by a Caldari logi with godly shields switch to a load out with flux nades. I have a flux nade loadout I use when I see proto Caldari logis in game. |
SmileB4Death
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
102
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:09:00 -
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Yeah man make logi's only have sidearms!
But I want a HMG sidearm. No point in making the change otherwise. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
72
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:48:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:I do not agree with nerfing all the Logi suits because of one suit or taking away their light weapon of choice. However, having one suit that can be better at everything when compared to all of the alternatives is OP.
The best suggestion I have heard is reducing the PG/CPU, I would suggest to a level below the equivalent Assault, but give the Logi suit a PG/CPU modifier to equipment i.e. they get a bonus reduction to fitting equipment. This way the Logi can do the job of medic or specialist role like demolitions, and with correct balancing, fit any variation of equipment they want but won't be able to tank everything in sight by fitting complex everything.
It will also allow for restrictions on what other suits can fit and thus ensuring an important place in the squad for a Logi. They will not have the strongest defence, attack or speed but they will remain the most flexible in terms of support.
This is a bad idea because our top tier equipment requires a lot of PG/CPU, so we have to rely on basic shield and armor to survive, and if the medic can't stay alive how can you? |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:07:00 -
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Logistics CK.0 VS Assault CK.0
Max PG >78 KW > 60 KW
Max CPU> 390 GF > 380
Shield > 180 HP > 210 HP
Armor > 90 HP > 120 HP
Shield Recharge Rate > 20.0 HP/s > 25.0 HP/s
Shield Recharge Delay > 4.0 S > 5.0 S
Shield Depleted Recharge Delay > 6.0 S > 8.0 S
Armor Repair Rate > 0 > 0
Movement Speed > 4.7 M/s > 5.0 M/s
Sprint Speed > 6.6 M/s > 7.0 M/s
Sprint Duration > 11.5 s > 15.0 S
Stamina > 115.0 > 150.0
Stamina Recovery Rate > 12.0/s > 15.0/s
Scan Profile > 50 DB > 50 DB
Scan Precision > 50 DB > 55 DB
Scan Radius > 10.0 M > 10.0 M
Melee Damage > 110.0 HP > 110.0 HP
Logistics Suit Bonus: Assault Suit Bonus:
+5 HP/s Armor Repair Rate +25% Dropsuit shield recharge rate
Caldari Logistics Suit Bonus: Caldari Assault Suit Bonus
+25% Efficiency of shield extender modules +10& Hybrid weapon reload speed (possibly bugged)
Fitting:
5H/3E/4L/1LW 4H/1E/3L/1LW/1SA
Obviously, the CaLogi's stats are inferior to the Assault in almost every way. The only thing that needs to be changed, is the racial bonus which should be toned down to 2~3% per level. Other logis are absolutely fine, unless you can convince me otherwise. |
Slash Phage
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
RUST415
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:39:00 -
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"I was logi BEFORE it was cool!" 
Yesterday in a pub ambush I counted 5 logi suits and 3 Assault. lol. I don-¦t expect the nerf hammer to fall on the logistic, more of a buff to the assault boni. But I would learn to handle a nerf anyway because I-¦m a logi by blood.
I-¦m a mediocre player and have 8mil SP. Not a single one went into weapons and I still need millions to make the proto suit worth it. So please noobs, if you want to play assault get an assault suit and spare us the QQ after the fix. Where does this mentality comes from? Oh TAR is OP, I get one! Oh logi has more slots, I get one! I-¦ll just love your tears when CCP fix this issues.
Find your playstyle and skill that way. Trying to make shortcuts and to jump on the flavor of the week does not cut it in the long run. This is an RPG and I don-¦t expect any full respec in the future and so should you.
On the plus side: Many high SP players are running logi suits now. They have needles (they will work again in the future). And they can support the noobies floating in.
TL:DR: Real logis will enjoy the delicous tears after the fix.  |
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