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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
496
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:06:00 -
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I'm a professional gamer. As in, I actually make money playing video games. Competitive gamers like myself require functional gameplay mechanics or we simply cannot thrive. That doesn't mean balanced mechanics, mind you, just functional ones that can be controlled. I don't need to explain how bad the aim mechanics currently are, or the issues this game has with frame rates. Everyone already knows. But I do feel the need to mention that these things cannot be controlled, and they directly affect my personal performance.
This type of situation is basically a no-win situation for myself. I cannot possibly achieve my maximum potential in this game if I am held back by uncontrollable variables to such an extent. The game as it is, being such an atrocious abomination in the eyes of competitive gaming, is beyond frustrating to play. Much to the point that people very easily put the game down and walk away forever if they are not competitive.
But I am. Worse yet, I know CCP's track record and I know they will fix these things. I also know they will take all the time in the world while keeping communication at a bare minimum. I also know that this particular game has the potential to become one of the most important first person shooters ever made, so it is important to get a foothold and keep it.
So I am stuck, playing this game week after week, lest I fall terribly behind on SP. To stay viable, I have to keep playing something that completely spits on everything I value from a competitive game. Since the launch of Uprising, I have yet to log off of Dust in a state where I was not given a very real physical headache from trying to overcompensate for this games broken mechanics.
So I just wanted you to know this, CCP Staff. Your game right now is so bad that for somebody out there who makes it his business to play video games, it is actually physically painful to touch. And this same person still has faith that you will fix this.
I want you to think about that every time you decide to blow off a request for information or half-ass a hotfix like you have been doing recently. Also, bug fixes do not make expansions. You don't require six months to justify fixing something. It's not appreciated. |
Full Metal Kitten
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
604
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:09:00 -
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Your post was physically painful to read, so I didn't. I just stopped reading, posted this comment, and now I'm walking away from it. You should do the same with DUST. |
DJINN Marauder
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
700
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:10:00 -
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The aiming isnt that bad...
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
608
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:11:00 -
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I professionally touch myself. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:11:00 -
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I'd recommend you stop playing DUST and seek a physician. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4699
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:12:00 -
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I didn't see any physical abuse going on. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:13:00 -
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Enjoying our District Mr. Kuronaga? Well played sir, well played...
And I agree, the aiming and lag must be fixed. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
22
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:14:00 -
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I stopped reading at professional gamer. Because how exactly do you make money from playing Dust? Better off with CoD. Also if you are a professional gamer, you should be able to adapt to this game. I also wanna label myself as a hardcore gamer cause I play games for fun and can adapt easily. I play from a board range of FPS and was good at it I.e. MGO2, KZ2, BF3, SOCOM, Korean shooters on pc and Halo as well. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1651
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:15:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:I professionally touch myself.
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Noc Tempre
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1696
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:15:00 -
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SP > Skill is the direction CCP is taking this game. |
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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
461
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:15:00 -
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Quote:I'm a professional gamer....who plays Dust 514
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:16:00 -
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Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
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Blueberry Pop
Grief University
2
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:16:00 -
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If it hurts, stop doing it.
If you want to be catered to, go play a game that caters to you.
And if you're looking for someone who will care about your job, go find a girlfriend. Or boyfriend, if that's what you prefer. |
VLIGHT5
The Judas Coalition
172
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:17:00 -
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"Professional Gamers" make me laugh. You must have such a difficult career. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1652
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:18:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:"Professional Gamers" make me laugh. You must have such a difficult career. Right?! |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
461
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:19:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
Actually the aiming in this game is horrendous. On top of the sloppy controls there's half a second of input lag. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
231
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:19:00 -
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Solution: afk farming... It's what all the cool people are doing nowadays. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1652
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:21:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
Actually the aiming in this game is horrendous. On top of the sloppy controls there's half a second of input lag. So how come I played for 6 hours straight and saw none of this?
I'm seriously starting to think the build deployments aren't installing the same way on each console.
I'm not kidding, just look at all the threads on here and the different experiences so many users are citing. It's far too widespread to just be whining, and far to diverse a list of issues with different issues being experienced by each player to be explained by anything else. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
461
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:25:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
Actually the aiming in this game is horrendous. On top of the sloppy controls there's half a second of input lag. So how come I played for 6 hours straight and saw none of this? I'm seriously starting to think the build deployments aren't installing the same way on each console. I'm not kidding, just look at all the threads on here and the different experiences so many users are citing. It's far too widespread to just be whining, and far to diverse a list of issues with different issues being experienced by each player to be explained by anything else.
People are having different experiences because your resolution and amount of matches you play in a sitting has an effect on input lag. Play at 480p and for about 10 minutes or so you'll have very little input lag and the game feels much smoother. Play at 720p and you start off with half a second of game-breaking lag and everything feels choppy. |
Blueberry Pop
Grief University
2
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:26:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
Actually the aiming in this game is horrendous. On top of the sloppy controls there's half a second of input lag. Stop playing on a 50 dollar LCD. |
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Cygnus 2112
D3LTA ACADEMY
15
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:27:00 -
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I cannot take all these threads anymore!!!! This goes out to all you people to hate Dust. Dont play it. Wait several more months/updates if you have faith in CCP. Problem solved. Uprising's aiming is not bad. If a "pro gamer" cannot aim in this game they are simply a terrible gamer. I dont know how many times my militia assault rifle took me to the top of the leaderboard. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
48
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:28:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:SP > Skill is the direction CCP is taking this game. You got it backwards. Last build was SP > Skill since every passive was tied to your character to make them as powerful as possible. The gear was just an afterthought. Now, most of the passives are tied to their respective modules to make them more efficient, you actually have to use skill in figuring out a fitting that works with your play style. You can be a professional AAA FPS player, but if you can't make a proper fitting, you're going to be gimped. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
461
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:29:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:you actually have to use skill in figuring out a fitting that works with your play style
lmao... |
Aurra Field
Goonfeet
4
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:30:00 -
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I love this thread so much. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:31:00 -
[25] - Quote
So if I switch to 480P it should help my game? How do I do that, or do I have to switch it on the PS3 settings in the XMB? |
Ivy Ivanovic Ivanovski
Les Enfants Terribles Sk33t Fl33t
7
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:31:00 -
[26] - Quote
I'm a professional gamer and getting trolled by professional trolls. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:31:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
Actually the aiming in this game is horrendous. On top of the sloppy controls there's half a second of input lag. So how come I played for 6 hours straight and saw none of this? I'm seriously starting to think the build deployments aren't installing the same way on each console. I'm not kidding, just look at all the threads on here and the different experiences so many users are citing. It's far too widespread to just be whining, and far to diverse a list of issues with different issues being experienced by each player to be explained by anything else.
Im not gonna lie the aim felt strange at first, but it took some time to get used to the analog acceleration and stiff Full triggers,,
Besides the odd server with dysinc issues, I have no problems with the current aiming engine. Its clean,sharp, and fast.. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
48
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:32:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:you actually have to use skill in figuring out a fitting that works with your play style lmao... Says the guy using a Caldar Logi as an Assault+1 and a DTAR. |
Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
107
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:35:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
Actually the aiming in this game is horrendous. On top of the sloppy controls there's half a second of input lag. So how come I played for 6 hours straight and saw none of this? I'm seriously starting to think the build deployments aren't installing the same way on each console. I'm not kidding, just look at all the threads on here and the different experiences so many users are citing. It's far too widespread to just be whining, and far to diverse a list of issues with different issues being experienced by each player to be explained by anything else. People are having different experiences because your resolution and amount of matches you play in a sitting has an effect on input lag. Play at 480p and for about 10 minutes or so you'll have very little input lag and the game feels much smoother. Play at 720p and you start off with half a second of game-breaking lag and everything feels choppy.
So, the game is broken
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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
461
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:37:00 -
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Alucard Fang wrote:So if I switch to 480P it should help my game? How do I do that, or do I have to switch it on the PS3 settings in the XMB?
Adjust your display settings in the XMB. Decreasing your resolution has a significant impact on the amount of input lag you get.
Even with the garbage graphics though the game will still stutter in the menus and suffer from regular framerate drops which proves that limited PS3 hardware capability isn't the problem but rather it's CCP's sloppy and terribad programming. |
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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
461
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:38:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
Actually the aiming in this game is horrendous. On top of the sloppy controls there's half a second of input lag. So how come I played for 6 hours straight and saw none of this? I'm seriously starting to think the build deployments aren't installing the same way on each console. I'm not kidding, just look at all the threads on here and the different experiences so many users are citing. It's far too widespread to just be whining, and far to diverse a list of issues with different issues being experienced by each player to be explained by anything else. People are having different experiences because your resolution and amount of matches you play in a sitting has an effect on input lag. Play at 480p and for about 10 minutes or so you'll have very little input lag and the game feels much smoother. Play at 720p and you start off with half a second of game-breaking lag and everything feels choppy. So, the game is broken
Yes. Now we must figure out how to get the average EVE player to comprehend this. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:44:00 -
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Well, I can only hope it gets better. I don't know how to explain it, I usually have zero-lag, except sometimes in PC battles. But in Chromosome, aiming wasn't perfect, but it worked. Now it's as if I have to fight the reticle to stay on the enemy, it's very hard to get kills unless the person I'm shooting at isn't moving. |
Fadiia
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:54:00 -
[33] - Quote
get in a game with your mouse.
make to marks on your mousepad.
slide the mouse slowly from one point to the other point ----> multiple 360's
slide the mouse FAST from one point to the other point ------> 90 degrees max turn
so the slower i move my mouse the faster my char will turn?
tell me how this is not totaly ****** up?
how about same distance traveld same turn radius coverd? |
Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
108
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:00:00 -
[34] - Quote
So, the game is broken.
Quote: Yes. Now we must figure out how to get the average EVE player to comprehend this.
Difficult, considering they are trained to look at poor game development as a feature. |
Hendrik Datsyuk
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:17:00 -
[35] - Quote
It's true the game is painful as it is. From character select to unnecessary steps between matches. Actually there is no need to even list the reasons why; they are obvious. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
503
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:30:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:I stopped reading at professional gamer. Because how exactly do you make money from playing Dust? Better off with CoD. Also if you are a professional gamer, you should be able to adapt to this game. I also wanna label myself as a hardcore gamer cause I play games for fun and can adapt easily. I play from a board range of FPS and was good at it I.e. MGO2, KZ2, BF3, SOCOM, Korean shooters on pc and Halo as well.
With Dust?
Currently, you don't. And until it gets fixed, you never will.
I didn't say I made money from Dust, I said I made money from competitive gaming and I do. What I said was that it is painful to play Dust as being a person who does this. You learn to identify certain traits in a game, and when they are absent it is much more noticeable.
I'll have to hand it to Imps though, most of their members place a strong emphasis on movement tech and less on aim tech. When you can't aim, movement is king. More difficult for a heavy like myself. Got in the wrong boat on that one too.
Life is rough all around. Heh. |
Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:47:00 -
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Its weird cause i play on 720 and on my days off from work i usually play 4-5 hours and i still don't experience this input lag. Guess i'm lucky. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
504
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:52:00 -
[38] - Quote
I play on 480p.
It does help to an extent, but it doesn't fix the core problems. There is still a delay and it is still noticeable.
Not to mention it makes the game blurry as hell. There are some instances at 480p I just can't see a proto against a dark backdrop to save my life. |
Gunhilda Zetter
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2013.05.28 07:45:00 -
[39] - Quote
Surely a pro gamer would play where the money is, otherwise you're just a gamer, no? |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.05.28 07:57:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:... VLIGHT5 wrote:"Professional Gamers" make me laugh. You must have such a difficult career. Casual gamers make me sad for mankind. 280 million sperm fight for dominance and you guys are the most competitive of the bunch. Downright pathetic, but whatever.
Huh? You do realize that there are some people who are casual gamers that are more competitive in more important aspects of their lives, like say, their job? Or their hobbies, like bodybuilding, trail running, snowboarding, and other activites that are non-digital? |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
507
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
Gunhilda Zetter wrote:Surely a pro gamer would play where the money is, otherwise you're just a gamer, no?
Absolutely correct. I make money from other games. Not this one.
I don't stop being a professional just because I chose to start playing Dust. My income has not stopped from other ventures.
This one is done currently as recreational with the hopes it will turn into something greater eventually. Even so, it is impossible to enjoy with such glaring flaws. It is so flawed, in fact, that even on a recreational level it is not enjoyable.
This is reflected easily enough by the majority of reviewers out there who, I assure you, are pretty terrible at nearly everything they touch. If a half-assed reviewer can feel something is wrong with the way the game functions, you can imagine how it effects someone who is used to playing at a professional level. |
GLiMPSE X
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
86
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:15:00 -
[42] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Gunhilda Zetter wrote:Surely a pro gamer would play where the money is, otherwise you're just a gamer, no? Absolutely correct. I make money from other games. Not this one. I don't stop being a professional just because I chose to start playing Dust. My income has not stopped from other ventures. This one is done currently as recreational with the hopes it will turn into something greater eventually. Even so, it is impossible to enjoy with such glaring flaws. It is so flawed, in fact, that even on a recreational level it is not enjoyable. This is reflected easily enough by the majority of reviewers out there who, I assure you, are pretty terrible at nearly everything they touch. If a half-assed reviewer can feel something is wrong with the way the game functions, you can imagine how it effects someone who is used to playing at a professional level.
Maybe he's defining 'pro gamer' as someone who has received money to play a game.
Anyone for a game of "Hide the Salami"? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
507
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:27:00 -
[43] - Quote
Professionals get paid to play. Usually due to our capacity to win. That's why we are called professionals.
If there is any confusion after that, I'm not sure where it could possibly be coming from other than a deep desire to troll regardless of the content. |
Delta Iddon
Electronic Sports League
14
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:33:00 -
[44] - Quote
Allow me to introduce myself in the same manner as the OP
I work for th ESL, you could say that i am a part of the reason that professional gamers exist.
What you described in your post does not reflect its title and, while we all agree that the game has a way to go optimization wise, that your gripe for the game stems from a contol scheme that you are not accustomed to.
Once upon a time i too was unaccustomed to the games handling and controls, but over time i got used to it and realised that this occurs in all new games that isnt cod4 through black ops 2 (becauae lets face it, they are copy pastes of each other)
please take your time to get used to dust insteas of trying to change it, making yourself look entitled in the process |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
25
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:37:00 -
[45] - Quote
Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
Actually the aiming in this game is horrendous. On top of the sloppy controls there's half a second of input lag. So how come I played for 6 hours straight and saw none of this? I'm seriously starting to think the build deployments aren't installing the same way on each console. I'm not kidding, just look at all the threads on here and the different experiences so many users are citing. It's far too widespread to just be whining, and far to diverse a list of issues with different issues being experienced by each player to be explained by anything else. People are having different experiences because your resolution and amount of matches you play in a sitting has an effect on input lag. Play at 480p and for about 10 minutes or so you'll have very little input lag and the game feels much smoother. Play at 720p and you start off with half a second of game-breaking lag and everything feels choppy.
Theres a difference between input lag from the game and input lag from a tv. In dust's case theres is an in game input lag likely caused from the graphics overhaul since this problem did not occur in chromosome. I play on a monitor with 2ms latency with no problems so if ur lowering ur res to make it better u my might want to look into getting a new tv. |
Hendrik Datsyuk
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:44:00 -
[46] - Quote
Yes please learn to compensate for p***poor game mechanics and subpar balance and content.. =ƒÿÆ
Just stay =ƒÖê=ƒÖë |
Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
139
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:48:00 -
[47] - Quote
ITT, MLG 360 NO SCOPE PRO |
AndyPandy Puschel
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.05.28 08:58:00 -
[48] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I'm a professional gamer.
As a self proclaimed "professional gamer" u should be able to master any game, no matter what the conditions or rules are. The strength of a "professional" racedriver is not to place first in the best car, its the ability to place third in a mediocre and bad car. So don't complain openly, since thats the opposite of being "professional"! |
Matakage
WildCard Ninja Clan
235
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:00:00 -
[49] - Quote
I've only been playing for a month and I'll give you some advice for posting in this forum: Complaining and trolling doesn't work on these guys. The only thing that works is logical, well-planned, constructive criticism. It takes a lot longer, but you have to show that you're on the inside -- not on the outside looking in (with statements like "I'm a professional gamer.")
I do respect your opinion, by the way. Going from this game to Battlefield 3 can be pretty startling: "OMG! How is it so smooth?!?" But BF3 is a triple-A title with a huge budget, a way bigger staff, and their own unique engine for crying out loud! We're the little guy using the outdated Unreal engine and trying to carve out our own niche of FPS game. It's true, though. We spend way too much time sweating the trivial details and sometimes fail to see the bigger picture. Many FPS gamers are not going to say, "Man, the frame rate and aiming kinda sucks -- but that's okay because they're making this cool unique thing." No way. They're just going to say it sucks. They won't give us credit for originality.
But frame rate and aiming are issues that CCP has already acknowledged as a problem and said it's a huge priority. It has mostly to do with optimization, which is a constant work-in-progress as you add new features to a game. If you really want to get into Dust 514, subscribe to their YouTube channel and watch the presentations. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
1774
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:51:00 -
[50] - Quote
I have deleted some off-topic posts and trolling for this thread. |
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ShakeMS
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:53:00 -
[51] - Quote
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=81296&find=unread |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
298
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:54:00 -
[52] - Quote
For a professional gamer you cry to much. :p
The aiming is not that bad! |
ShakeMS
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 10:04:00 -
[53] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Professionals get paid to play. Usually due to our capacity to win. That's why we are called professionals.
If there is any confusion after that, I'm not sure where it could possibly be coming from other than a deep desire to troll regardless of the content.
What is your name in FGC? Did you participate in ECT? UGFT? East or West coast? |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
768
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Posted - 2013.05.28 10:07:00 -
[54] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:For a professional gamer you cry to much. :p
The aiming is not that bad! For a professional gamer, he isn't very much of a gamer.
If you've been playing games since the 80's you're much more adaptable to idiosyncrasies of games you try, while the 'pro' gamer who's played only with 100 frames per second with less than 100ms lag. Compared to the unforgiving nature of old games it is laughably easy. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
196
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Posted - 2013.05.28 10:58:00 -
[55] - Quote
Alright, guys, time for some real talk here. I mean I read through the read, man, and I saw a lot "witty" comments, I saw some trash talk, I saw a few okay responses, guys, but what I'm missing here is someone that responds directly to the opening post presented, dude. Make no mistake about it, I'm gonna lay it all down for you Mr. Kuronaga, and don't worry I'm not gonna judge you based on the fact that you probably watch way too much cartoons, bro. No big deal.
Now let me start off by saying that Kuronaga is a professional gamer and he's complaining that Dust 514 makes his head hurt. I mean let's be specific here, he said he's made money by playing fighting games and occasionally by FPS games, and he thinks that it makes his opinion about this game more important than the opinions of the rest of us. I'm not gonna sugar coat it whatsoever, guys, let's just go ahead and call spade a spade here guys: That's like professional figure skater complaining that he can't play ice hockey cause his little body hurts! Mr Kuronaga, let me tell you something. If this game makes your head hurt, well I'd suggest that maybe, and just maybe, it's the wrong game for you.
Now let me tell you another thing. You say you're professional gamer, dude, and maybe you're thinking: "If I practice Dust 514 now, I will make a fortune later!" WRONG! Let me tell you something about E-sports, bro, or any sports for that matter. Your income is based on the amount of the people who are willing to watch you do your thing. Dust 514 will never be a great spectator E-sport: It's not gonna happen, cause it's not what it's supposed to be. Now I've given you way too much crap, Kuronaga, so I'm gonna end with a little advice at the end: Go pick up a game that is a great spectator E-sports game, get good at it and watch the money flowing in from the front door, dude! Dust is a wrong game for you bro. Peace out!
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Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
319
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:06:00 -
[56] - Quote
I'm not a professional gamer anymore ( to old to be competitive with the youngsters ) But is use to be. And i completely agree with this post. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
487
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:13:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ric has a point there, but as a former competitive gamer I understand the point of view of Kuronaga way too well. I quit playing the shooter game couple weeks ago because mouse is just too tedious to play - having to artificially aim slow just to be consistent with the aiming is too much of a chore for me.
Dust 514 will be eaten alive by the upcoming MMO fps competition along with the bad reviews that put it into a very niche status. The first game to launch properly with a sandbox FPS will become the competitive one in this genre, and Dust missed that boat with Uprising failure.
However, Dust has the chance to become the EVE online of FPS - not too popular, but the deepest and most hooking one on market. The metagame is the surviving aspect of Dust.
If you are looking to make cash from Dust, either get hired to pwn by a rich fella through the metagame, or consider other options. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
196
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:25:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote: Dust 514 will be eaten alive by the upcoming MMO fps competition along with the bad reviews that put it into a very niche status. The first game to launch properly with a sandbox FPS will become the competitive one in this genre, and Dust missed that boat with Uprising failure.
However, Dust has the chance to become the EVE online of FPS - not too popular, but the deepest and most hooking one on market. The metagame is the surviving aspect of Dust.
That's exactly what I think. Dust 514 will probably never be as smooth to play as the cream of the crop of games, but it will probably have much more depth to it, man. There's no point in playing a game you don't enjoy it, and Dust 514 will never be something you're gonna make a lot of money with.
And oh yeah, guys, the game has a crapload of problems at the moment, man, but if you guys aren't enjoying it, just take a break. Don't worry about the skill points because let's be honest here, playing a game because of SP is about the dumbest thing ever. Taking a break is a win-win situation because either you find out that Dust is just taking away from your time, you could spend doing something else, or you end up coming back after the break and you will enjoy the game more. Yeah, you missed some SP, but you've also passively accumulated some which is fun to use. And don't give me that crap that you can't be competitive because you have 3 million SP less than the top dogs. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
67
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:29:00 -
[59] - Quote
AoD
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Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
319
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:35:00 -
[60] - Quote
Ric Barlom wrote:trollsroyce wrote: Dust 514 will be eaten alive by the upcoming MMO fps competition along with the bad reviews that put it into a very niche status. The first game to launch properly with a sandbox FPS will become the competitive one in this genre, and Dust missed that boat with Uprising failure.
However, Dust has the chance to become the EVE online of FPS - not too popular, but the deepest and most hooking one on market. The metagame is the surviving aspect of Dust.
That's exactly what I think. Dust 514 will probably never be as smooth to play as the cream of the crop of games, but it will probably have much more depth to it, man. There's no point in playing a game you don't enjoy it, and Dust 514 will never be something you're gonna make a lot of money with. And oh yeah, guys, the game has a crapload of problems at the moment, man, but if you guys aren't enjoying it, just take a break. Don't worry about the skill points because let's be honest here, playing a game because of SP is about the dumbest thing ever. Taking a break is a win-win situation because either you find out that Dust is just taking away from your time, you could spend doing something else, or you end up coming back after the break and you will enjoy the game more. Yeah, you missed some SP, but you've also passively accumulated some which is fun to use. And don't give me that crap that you can't be competitive because you have 3 million SP less than the top dogs.
Is not about the money.... Is the "Competitive" game mechanics of Dust 514. Is like playing a Sport without rules or regulations, where "Everything goes". Imagine playing football with 20 balls in the pitch, not restrictions of how many players you can have in each team, anyone can you join the match, even members of the public. You can use any equipment you want, ( A baseball Bat ), and use as much violence as you want. This is Dust 514. Is not a "Competitive" environment. |
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CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
82
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:45:00 -
[61] - Quote
Call of Duty is still out there, maybe you should stick to it?
If you make money playing games (which i'm 100% is ONLY Cod) then stick at it and **** off! |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
196
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:49:00 -
[62] - Quote
Panther Alpha wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:trollsroyce wrote: Dust 514 will be eaten alive by the upcoming MMO fps competition along with the bad reviews that put it into a very niche status. The first game to launch properly with a sandbox FPS will become the competitive one in this genre, and Dust missed that boat with Uprising failure.
However, Dust has the chance to become the EVE online of FPS - not too popular, but the deepest and most hooking one on market. The metagame is the surviving aspect of Dust.
That's exactly what I think. Dust 514 will probably never be as smooth to play as the cream of the crop of games, but it will probably have much more depth to it, man. There's no point in playing a game you don't enjoy it, and Dust 514 will never be something you're gonna make a lot of money with. And oh yeah, guys, the game has a crapload of problems at the moment, man, but if you guys aren't enjoying it, just take a break. Don't worry about the skill points because let's be honest here, playing a game because of SP is about the dumbest thing ever. Taking a break is a win-win situation because either you find out that Dust is just taking away from your time, you could spend doing something else, or you end up coming back after the break and you will enjoy the game more. Yeah, you missed some SP, but you've also passively accumulated some which is fun to use. And don't give me that crap that you can't be competitive because you have 3 million SP less than the top dogs. Is not about the money... . Is the "Competitive" game mechanics of Dust 514. Is like playing a Sport without rules or regulations, where "Everything goes". Imagine playing football with 20 balls in the pitch, not restrictions of how many players you can have in each team, anyone can you join the match, even members of the public. You can use any equipment you want, ( A baseball Bat ), and use as much violence as you want. This is Dust 514. Is not a "Competitive" environment. Yeah there are a lot of issues with the game, no question about it. At the end of the day though, the fact of the matter is that you shouldn't be playing it unless you enjoy it. I mean I'm not telling anyone not to, but why would you play a game that gives you a headache while you play it? Let me be the first one to tell you that I wouldn't be playing the baseball game you just described! |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
319
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:51:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:trollsroyce wrote: Dust 514 will be eaten alive by the upcoming MMO fps competition along with the bad reviews that put it into a very niche status. The first game to launch properly with a sandbox FPS will become the competitive one in this genre, and Dust missed that boat with Uprising failure.
However, Dust has the chance to become the EVE online of FPS - not too popular, but the deepest and most hooking one on market. The metagame is the surviving aspect of Dust.
That's exactly what I think. Dust 514 will probably never be as smooth to play as the cream of the crop of games, but it will probably have much more depth to it, man. There's no point in playing a game you don't enjoy it, and Dust 514 will never be something you're gonna make a lot of money with. And oh yeah, guys, the game has a crapload of problems at the moment, man, but if you guys aren't enjoying it, just take a break. Don't worry about the skill points because let's be honest here, playing a game because of SP is about the dumbest thing ever. Taking a break is a win-win situation because either you find out that Dust is just taking away from your time, you could spend doing something else, or you end up coming back after the break and you will enjoy the game more. Yeah, you missed some SP, but you've also passively accumulated some which is fun to use. And don't give me that crap that you can't be competitive because you have 3 million SP less than the top dogs. Is not about the money... . Is the "Competitive" game mechanics of Dust 514. Is like playing a Sport without rules or regulations, where "Everything goes". Imagine playing football with 20 balls in the pitch, not restrictions of how many players you can have in each team, anyone can you join the match, even members of the public. You can use any equipment you want, ( A baseball Bat ), and use as much violence as you want. This is Dust 514. Is not a "Competitive" environment. Yeah there are a lot of issues with the game, no question about it. At the end of the day though, the fact of the matter is that you shouldn't be playing it unless you enjoy it. I mean I'm not telling anyone not to, but why would you play a game that gives you a headache while you play it?
The same reason as the OP.... because the "Potential" of the game. Of course..is up to CCP to convert that "Potential" into reality. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:53:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I'm a professional gamer. As in, I actually make money playing video games. Competitive gamers like myself require functional gameplay mechanics or we simply cannot thrive. That doesn't mean balanced mechanics, mind you, just functional ones that can be controlled. I don't need to explain how bad the aim mechanics currently are, or the issues this game has with frame rates. Everyone already knows. But I do feel the need to mention that these things cannot be controlled, and they directly affect my personal performance.
This type of situation is basically a no-win situation for myself. I cannot possibly achieve my maximum potential in this game if I am held back by uncontrollable variables to such an extent. The game as it is, being such an atrocious abomination in the eyes of competitive gaming, is beyond frustrating to play. Much to the point that people very easily put the game down and walk away forever if they are not competitive.
But I am. Worse yet, I know CCP's track record and I know they will fix these things. I also know they will take all the time in the world while keeping communication at a bare minimum. I also know that this particular game has the potential to become one of the most important first person shooters ever made, so it is important to get a foothold and keep it.
So I am stuck, playing this game week after week, lest I fall terribly behind on SP. To stay viable, I have to keep playing something that completely spits on everything I value from a competitive game. Since the launch of Uprising, I have yet to log off of Dust in a state where I was not given a very real physical headache from trying to overcompensate for this games broken mechanics.
So I just wanted you to know this, CCP Staff. Your game right now is so bad that for somebody out there who makes it his business to play video games, it is actually physically painful to touch. And this same person still has faith that you will fix this.
I want you to think about that every time you decide to blow off a request for information or half-ass a hotfix like you have been doing recently. Also, bug fixes do not make expansions. You don't require six months to justify fixing something. It's not appreciated. Pitiful game is pitiful.
59 on metacritic and falling for a very good reason. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
196
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:59:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:trollsroyce wrote: Dust 514 will be eaten alive by the upcoming MMO fps competition along with the bad reviews that put it into a very niche status. The first game to launch properly with a sandbox FPS will become the competitive one in this genre, and Dust missed that boat with Uprising failure.
However, Dust has the chance to become the EVE online of FPS - not too popular, but the deepest and most hooking one on market. The metagame is the surviving aspect of Dust.
That's exactly what I think. Dust 514 will probably never be as smooth to play as the cream of the crop of games, but it will probably have much more depth to it, man. There's no point in playing a game you don't enjoy it, and Dust 514 will never be something you're gonna make a lot of money with. And oh yeah, guys, the game has a crapload of problems at the moment, man, but if you guys aren't enjoying it, just take a break. Don't worry about the skill points because let's be honest here, playing a game because of SP is about the dumbest thing ever. Taking a break is a win-win situation because either you find out that Dust is just taking away from your time, you could spend doing something else, or you end up coming back after the break and you will enjoy the game more. Yeah, you missed some SP, but you've also passively accumulated some which is fun to use. And don't give me that crap that you can't be competitive because you have 3 million SP less than the top dogs. Is not about the money... . Is the "Competitive" game mechanics of Dust 514. Is like playing a Sport without rules or regulations, where "Everything goes". Imagine playing football with 20 balls in the pitch, not restrictions of how many players you can have in each team, anyone can you join the match, even members of the public. You can use any equipment you want, ( A baseball Bat ), and use as much violence as you want. This is Dust 514. Is not a "Competitive" environment. Yeah there are a lot of issues with the game, no question about it. At the end of the day though, the fact of the matter is that you shouldn't be playing it unless you enjoy it. I mean I'm not telling anyone not to, but why would you play a game that gives you a headache while you play it? The same reason as the OP.... because the "Potential" of the game. Of course..is up to CCP to convert that "Potential" into reality. Well as I said, bro. Take a break cause playing a game - that you think sucks- right now based on it's future potential is just strange. Take a break and you'll find something more useful and enjoyable to do with your time and come back later to check it out and see if it reached the potential you talked about. Either it did and you'll be happy playing the game, or it didn't and you're happy you used your time on something else. I mean, am I missing something here or do dudes really make things this complicated for themselves? It's not more complicated than that, and you'd probably be more of a happy person too if you'd think about what's going on in your life right now, instead of trying to look for a better future. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
319
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:04:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Is not about the money... . Is the "Competitive" game mechanics of Dust 514. Is like playing a Sport without rules or regulations, where "Everything goes". Imagine playing football with 20 balls in the pitch, not restrictions of how many players you can have in each team, anyone can you join the match, even members of the public. You can use any equipment you want, ( A baseball Bat ), and use as much violence as you want. This is Dust 514. Is not a "Competitive" environment. Yeah there are a lot of issues with the game, no question about it. At the end of the day though, the fact of the matter is that you shouldn't be playing it unless you enjoy it. I mean I'm not telling anyone not to, but why would you play a game that gives you a headache while you play it? The same reason as the OP.... because the "Potential" of the game. Of course..is up to CCP to convert that "Potential" into reality. Well as I said, bro. Take a break cause playing a game - that you think sucks- right now based on it's future potential is just strange. Take a break and you either find something more useful and enjoyable to do with your time and come back later to check it out and see if it reached the potential you talked about. Either it did and you'll be happy playing the game, or it didn't and you're happy you used your time on something else. I mean, am I missing something here or do dudes really make things this complicated for themselves? It's not more complicated than that, and you'd probably be more of a happy person too if you'd think about what's going on in your life right now, instead of trying to look for a better future.
I learned to stick around games that may "Became" Great one day. You could call it "Experience". Of course, if i feel that the game will never reach it's full potential, then i will leave, like most serious gamers. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
196
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:07:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote: I learned to stick around games that may "Became" Great one day. You could call it "Experience". Of course, if i feel that the game will never reach it's full potential, then i will leave, like most serious gamers.
I know what you're saying, but I still see no reason for playing it now that you don't enjoy it at all. Why don't you just keep it in back of your mind, test it out every once in a while and start playing it for real when you actually enjoy it? |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
319
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:11:00 -
[68] - Quote
Ric Barlom wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: I learned to stick around games that may "Became" Great one day. You could call it "Experience". Of course, if i feel that the game will never reach it's full potential, then i will leave, like most serious gamers.
I know what you're saying, but I still see no reason for playing it now that you don't enjoy it at all. Why don't you just keep it in back of your mind, test it out every once in a while and start playing it for real when you actually enjoy it?
"I learned to stick around games that may "Became" Great one day. You could call it "Experience". Of course, if i feel that the game will never reach it's full potential, then i will leave, like most serious gamers." |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
151
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:20:00 -
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If it hurts you dude. Don't play it.
You whined about physical pain to a game. you won't find sympathy here. also because your a PRO GAMER. I've known PRO"S from the VEGAS 2 and more from the PC FPS scene.
The game is garbage. Your not wrong in that. Your buddies won't touch this with a stick... you wonder why? It deserves the score it currently has on metacritic. and every low score it has gotten from other sites.
Eve cultists will tell you the "potential of this game", cause well they like eve. and they will try and sell eve as tho "as a mmo it's the staple of mmos." It's not. You'll have more fun watching paint dry. You ever play "wolf"? where you try and guess who the wolf is? You ever play it with friends on google chat? THAT"S EVE. The rest is just turning on game, and switching to a new skill after current one is complete.
This game is niche, as the Niche Nerd is shunned from other nerds kinda of niche. BUT If you like building things, you can find some fun here. The way to create your suit, is pretty impressive. That's what holds me here. Got to build my gundam. As a FPS? Dude. . you already know. no need to remind everyone here.
*Isn't that what you did?"
Haha. Only cause the EVE guys starting running around in denile. I'm their friend too. I'm their Real Life bud whom they tell about dust and snicker. Gotta keep you guys boots on the ground. Love the game dudes, But don't sell it off as something is not. |
Paper Cutter
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:40:00 -
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PHYSICAL PAIN FROM A MOTHERF**KING VIDEO GAME?!?! GROW SOME BALLS AND DIG A DITCH YOU WHINY F**KING PU$$Y. You make me sad for humanity. This free game is not perfect but it will be a work in progress for a long time, "white people problems". |
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
545
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Posted - 2013.05.28 13:52:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Alucard Fang wrote:So if I switch to 480P it should help my game? How do I do that, or do I have to switch it on the PS3 settings in the XMB? Adjust your display settings in the XMB. Decreasing your resolution has a significant impact on the amount of input lag you get. Even with the garbage graphics though the game will still stutter in the menus and suffer from the same, regular framerate drops which proves that the PS3's outdated hardware isn't the problem but rather it's CCP's sloppy and terribad programming. I finally tried the 480p thing,and it does make aiming in the game a lot smoother and responsive. Feels kinda like chromosome did(and no, i'm not saying we should go back to Chromo). |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
545
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:07:00 -
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I feel that the OP's post is accurate and speaks to the core issues. These issues are real, there is no exaggeration going on.
It's really the compunding effect of basically every core fps mechanic in the game being broken or unfinished.
Input lag. Controller/KB+M mechanics. Weapon switch lag. ADS mechanics. Sticky terrain/stair bug, Weapon range-linked draw distances, frames-per-second in PC matches(yes i reset router/PS3 before each PC match). And more.
Even for a ham-handed fps putz like myself these thing are grindingly frustrating and make actually playing DUST feel unpleasant, although I love the game and New Eden.
It can only be moreso for players with a genuine skillset that the game prevents them from employing to the best of their ability.
Furthurmore, it is clear that this is the fundamental factor driving the falling metacritic scores. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:10:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:Pro gamers would lawl at this game and your post, its vary easy to aim in.
The guns just get stiff on a full trigger, a pro gamer would trigger his aim to get back on target.
nothing to see here folks..
You're an idiot.
And I agree with the op. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
366
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:37:00 -
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Cygnus 2112 wrote:I cannot take all these threads anymore!!!! This goes out to all you people to hate Dust. Dont play it. Wait several more months/updates if you have faith in CCP. Problem solved. Uprising's aiming is not bad. If a "pro gamer" cannot aim in this game they are simply a terrible gamer. I dont know how many times my militia assault rifle took me to the top of the leaderboard.
??? dude delta force got erased? what the heck are you talking about? |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
366
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:38:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:you actually have to use skill in figuring out a fitting that works with your play style lmao...
you mean just use the caldari logi suit that has 1000 slots and more health as the bonus? |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
366
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:42:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:For a professional gamer you cry to much. :p
The aiming is not that bad!
the point is that it shouldn't be bad in the first place |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3301
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:42:00 -
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This game has just become less and less enjoyable to me, culminating with Uprising.
Ugh. Just like the OP, I know that one day things will be fixed and working smoothly. Having played for over a year now though...I question just how long that SOON is going to be.... |
Celestial Emperor
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:45:00 -
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So let me get this correct. You're either complaining there isn't enough cheap things for you to do to achieve victory or you're stating that the skill ceiling is too low that you can't achieve your best? I just want to be absolutely clear. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
366
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:48:00 -
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Celestial Emperor wrote:So let me get this correct. You're either complaining there isn't enough cheap things for you to do to achieve victory or you're stating that the skill ceiling is too low that you can't achieve your best? I just want to be absolutely clear.
game doesn't feel solid, lol we join a match and half of us get stuck in a loading screen. Aiming and acceleration mess with your aim just doesn't feel good. |
Dusty Nelson
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
15
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:51:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I'd recommend you stop playing DUST and seek a physician.
+100%
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1282
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:33:00 -
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why... don't you.... take a break? SP costs will have to keep dropping as content is added to this game and once you have 10 million sp you are set, you can then just level up more things. To be fair skill costs are currently very high |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:28:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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