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Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:24:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Otoky wrote:@dalt ud
What are you suggesting? You want CCP solve your problem, but you dont give them any hint which way should they start.
Btw I played against you yesterday and it was nearly impossible to shoot you because of the advantage you have with ds3. You can move like Michael Jackson, and you cant do that with kb/m.
I dont see problem here, you can beat everyone with kb/m and for that 10% you talking about, figure out new tactic. Soving - let CCP make control with gamepad like in battlefield 3. BF3 gamepad sensitivity and controls is PERFECT. Other solving method from bf3 - disable support kbm and ps move, then all people will in equal situation. And, funny, but i think CCP will disable it sooner or later, when will see how many ds3 users leave this game. Most of ds3 users just dont know what is top kbm users stacked in one team. When they will understand they have no chances in planetary conquest... More likely the vocal ultraminority that you represent will move to the next FOTM regardless of what's done with the mouse. What's most likely to happen is that the mouse users will stick around, and the remainder (at the moment the majority, later on, possibly a minority compared to mouse users) just don't care either way, since they're good enough to know that their deaths aren't a matter of control scheme.
CCP has a long history of focusing on the people likely to stick around and focusing on that hard core; it's served them so well that they are the sole example of an MMORPG that has never peaked and has continued to grow, and that after TEN YEARS.
You wanna ragequit, go for it, we won't miss you, but they risk far more by killing keyboard and mouse support than by supporting it properly. At the end of the day, your baseless rambling is no more valid than a call to ban steering wheels in racing games; you're welcome to use whatever control scheme you want, just like everyone else. |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:32:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote: You wanna ragequit, go for it, we won't miss you, but they risk far more by killing keyboard and mouse support than by supporting it properly. At the end of the day, your baseless rambling is no more valid than a call to ban steering wheels in racing games; you're welcome to use whatever control scheme you want, just like everyone else.
when all control scheme will equal - it will good.
For now: PS Move controls - is broken (if compare it with other PS3 shooters) Ds3 controls - is broken (if compare it with other PS3 shooters)
kbm controls - not broken if compare it with ds3 and PS Move in dust 514. Just see sensitivity difference in Askull's video.
But if kbm users want play alone this game - let it be. Will see how long this game will exist on PS3 where 99% players play with ds3 in all type of games.
Who know, maybe kbm users buy enough AUR for CCP's profit and it is reason why CCP support them only now |
Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
153
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:46:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Geirskoegul wrote: You wanna ragequit, go for it, we won't miss you, but they risk far more by killing keyboard and mouse support than by supporting it properly. At the end of the day, your baseless rambling is no more valid than a call to ban steering wheels in racing games; you're welcome to use whatever control scheme you want, just like everyone else.
when all control scheme will equal - it will good. For now: PS Move controls - is broken (if compare it with other PS3 shooters) Ds3 controls - is broken (if compare it with other PS3 shooters) kbm controls - not broken if compare it with ds3 and PS Move in dust 514. Just see sensitivity difference in Askull's video. But if kbm users want play alone this game - let it be. Will see how long this game will exist on PS3 where 99% players play with ds3 in all type of games. Who know, maybe kbm users buy enough AUR for CCP's profit and it is reason why CCP support them only now Steering wheels aren't equal in racing games; should they be nerfed?
The fact of the matter is that it's possible to balance them all properly: you accept raw input and you set hard turnspeed caps. Will mice still be better than controllers? Absolutely, they're a better control interface for shooters, just like steering wheels are better for racing games.
The thing that you and the rest of your ultraminority just don't get is that all of the countless factors that determine the outcome of a 1v1 fight are infinitely more important than the INNATE disparity between keyboard and mouse. For that matter, YOUR familiarity and proficiency alone, with your chosen control scheme (be it mouse or joystick)., is infinitely greater in deciding the victor. In an actual fight, the only time that the mouse-keyboard difference ever really makes a difference is if you see each other at the same time, have the exact same stats and gear, that the added speed and precision of a mouse will decide it. The odds of this occurring in an actual match are almost nil; the number of times you die because of the mouse advantage as opposed to something else isn't even measurable it's so small.
What needs to be done is this:
1) Raw input for mouse, hard caps on max turn speed (this takes no time at all and is trivial to implement; where to set the caps requires testing and balancing, but it's a universal thing, not unique to mouse, as the hard caps are supposed to be the same regardless of control scheme since they're intended to be based on the suit / turret you're using).
2) Fix the issues with DS3 control (it IS sub-optimal, but this will take a while to tweak and fix as it's so much more involved; you're trying to make a control scheme that's incredibly BAD for a shooter, work WELL in a shooter).
3) Do whatever the hell the move needs, though honestly I've never found any possible interface logic that would work for it, on Wii or Move; only way to do it is with no cables and an Oculus Rift, or an on-rails shooter. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:45:00 -
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You are expert ds3 and kbm user, but many player are like me who not played fps on console before (i bought ps only for dust). I tried ds3 in the 1. month but it was not my tool, so switched to kbm.
If CCP disable kbm I will leave dust. Its my favorite game atm, and im highly addicted, but without kbm I cant play it. And I dont think im alone with this. Dust will survive in this condition because only a few ppl will leave because of the ds3. But if they disable kbm than huge amount of player will leave.
I support your idea to make ds3 like bf3 setting, but disable kbm would kill the game.
Ps.: sorry for grammar, writing on phone. |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:10:00 -
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KB+M is superior to controller for use in an FPS.
Its infinitely more precise, there isnt even a debate.
You get by with a crutch you dont even need, and try to stop others from running, instead of throwing the crutch away and starting running yourself.
While I prefer the controller myself, when sh!t hits the fan I take out mouse and keyboard. When you get your sh!t slapped, you slap back. There is no "imbalance" between KB+M and DS3, the DS3 is simply an inferior input device due to its nature.
So yeah, get better. If you feel you hit the skill ceiling allowed by the controller and still get your sh!t slapped, maybe its time to step up your game.
Just sayan. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
614
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:49:00 -
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October SnowFox wrote:-+-+-Ä-ü -+-+-ü-é-¦-¦-+-+!
-You can say that again! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1633
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:04:00 -
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Otoky wrote:dalt ud wrote:Otoky wrote:@dalt ud
What are you suggesting? You want CCP solve your problem, but you dont give them any hint which way should they start.
Btw I played against you yesterday and it was nearly impossible to shoot you because of the advantage you have with ds3. You can move like Michael Jackson, and you cant do that with kb/m.
I dont see problem here, you can beat everyone with kb/m and for that 10% you talking about, figure out new tactic. Soving - let CCP make control with gamepad like in battlefield 3. BF3 gamepad sensitivity and controls is PERFECT. Other solving method from bf3 - disable support kbm and ps move, then all people will in equal situation. And, funny, but i think CCP will disable it sooner or later, when will see how many ds3 users leave this game. Most of ds3 users just dont know what is top kbm users stacked in one team. When they will understand they have no chances in planetary conquest... You are expert ds3 and kbm user, but many player are like me who not played fps on console before (i bought ps only for dust). I tried ds3 in the 1. month but it was not my tool, so switched to kbm. If CCP disable kbm I will leave dust. Its my favorite game atm, and im highly addicted, but without kbm I cant play it. And I dont think im alone with this. Dust will survive in this condition because only a few ppl will leave because of the ds3. But if they disable kbm than huge amount of player will leave. I support your idea to make ds3 like bf3 setting, but disable kbm would kill the game. Ps.: sorry for grammar, writing on phone. Mouse aiming won't be removed no matter how much complaining there is.
To be honest, I perform better with the DS3 than I do with my mouse. The first FPSes I ever played were on console, and those were the only ones I played for quite a while. I used to play Halo Custom Edition on PC with a 360 controller and did better than I ever did with a mouse. |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:10:00 -
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Otoky wrote:t ds3 and kbm user, but many player are like me who not played fps on console before (i bought ps only for dust). I tried ds3 in the 1. month but it was not my tool, so switched to kbm.
I never regret when i work hard to adapt to ds3 playing. I cost me mont of playing, but i got skill. Why i did it? Coz no more popular shooters support kbm on PS3.
And now i even dont want play with kbm.
Otoky wrote: Dust will survive in this condition because only a few ppl will leave because of the ds3. But if they disable kbm than huge amount of player will leave.
CCP choosed ps3 for 65 000 000 install base, and this millions players are ds3 users. I am sorry, but "few people" its about kbm users here.
Otoky wrote: I support your idea to make ds3 like bf3 setting
Before nerf or disable mouse - CCP must make fine controls for ds3. Because maybe it will enough. And make right aim assist for CQC, coz weakpoint of gamepad playing is CQC. In Chromosome aim assist worked good enough. Before blame ds3 users about "aim assist" try to play with gamepad. I need no aim assist with my ds3 to beat 90% of kbm users, but vs top kbm users ds3 is too weak in CQC :(
I created this thread coz CCP do nothing about it. Now controls with gamepad is broken if compare it even with Chromosome. If compare it with bf3 - we are gimps here :( |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:12:00 -
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Beeeees wrote: So yeah, get better. If you feel you hit the skill ceiling allowed by the controller and still get your sh!t slapped, maybe its time to step up your game.
I just dont want it. I bought ps3 for comfortable playing, and dont want use kbm at all.
And most of ps3's players have same opinion. |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:06:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:
I just dont want it. I bought ps3 for comfortable playing, and dont want use kbm at all.
If you want comfortable and effortless recreation, play pub, or say, Cawadoody.
If you want to play with the PC proto big dawgs, you gotta step up your game. |
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KA24DERT
Not Guilty EoN.
53
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:47:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Beeeees wrote: So yeah, get better. If you feel you hit the skill ceiling allowed by the controller and still get your sh!t slapped, maybe its time to step up your game.
I just dont want it. I bought ps3 for comfortable playing, and dont want use kbm at all. And most of ps3's players have same opinion.
Wow.
You got challenged by someone to step your game up, and your response is "I want to be comfortable".
And I guess because you want to get kills in comfort, you want other people to suffer?
Why do you even play a competitive video game if you don't really want a challenge?
People like you would be happiest if CCP replaced the entire game of Dust with a screen that says "YOU WIN!".
You're such a special snowflake. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
1419
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:53:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:kbm have better strafe - i was wrong about strafe i tested and its same but sensitivity of mouse really as minimum twice faster than ds3 kbm have better aim speed and aim's accuracyVideo 3:33 CCP do nothing about it top kbm users can stack in one team and its impossible to win then in planetary conquest when most of my team is ds3 users. If CCP will not balance kbm vs ds3 - i will leave dust 514 to battlefield 4 and wont back anymore. Before someone will blame me in nooby crying - my KD 5.59 (caldari assault), i can win 90% of kbm users, but other 10% is over my skill. And this 10% can stack in one team in planetary conquest. And they do it. I see no reason to compete with them. My skill will grow, and their skill will grow. And their advantage will exist always. CCP you must understand - unbalanced controllers will kill your game. I like competition, i am veteran of PS3's shooters and i am your target auditory in this game. But unfair balance - killed my interest. Everyone gamepad's user will understand it sooner or later, when begin play planetary conquest., and will leave dust514 to any fair game where all users play on one type of controller. I will wait next major update this game, if situation will not changed - bye bye dust 514 for ever. edit: Before nerf or disable mouse - CCP must make fine controls for ds3. Because maybe it will enough. And make right aim assist for CQC, coz weakpoint of gamepad playing is CQC. In Chromosome aim assist (and controls) worked good enough. Before blame ds3 users about "aim assist" try to play with gamepad. I need no aim assist with my ds3 to beat 90% of kbm users, but vs top kbm users ds3 is too weak in CQC :( I created this thread coz CCP do nothing about it. Now controls with gamepad is broken if compare it even with Chromosome. If compare it with bf3 - we are gimps here :(
My team is full DS3 and i'm the only KBM user. Yet we do pretty fine in PC or anywhere else. Also, know that at the moment, aiming with mouse is difficult due to latest changing in controls done with Uprising.
Finally, CCP is always tweaking DS3 acceleration and speed pattern. I know that for a fact.
The CQC problem you're mentionning exists for both kbm and ds3. As a matter of fact it's even worse for KBM than DS3 atm.
So hang ing there. And do trust me when i say that many top players are DS3 guys. |
KA24DERT
Not Guilty EoN.
53
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:59:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:dalt ud wrote:kbm have better strafe - i was wrong about strafe i tested and its same but sensitivity of mouse really as minimum twice faster than ds3 kbm have better aim speed and aim's accuracyVideo 3:33 CCP do nothing about it top kbm users can stack in one team and its impossible to win then in planetary conquest when most of my team is ds3 users. If CCP will not balance kbm vs ds3 - i will leave dust 514 to battlefield 4 and wont back anymore. Before someone will blame me in nooby crying - my KD 5.59 (caldari assault), i can win 90% of kbm users, but other 10% is over my skill. And this 10% can stack in one team in planetary conquest. And they do it. I see no reason to compete with them. My skill will grow, and their skill will grow. And their advantage will exist always. CCP you must understand - unbalanced controllers will kill your game. I like competition, i am veteran of PS3's shooters and i am your target auditory in this game. But unfair balance - killed my interest. Everyone gamepad's user will understand it sooner or later, when begin play planetary conquest., and will leave dust514 to any fair game where all users play on one type of controller. I will wait next major update this game, if situation will not changed - bye bye dust 514 for ever. edit: Before nerf or disable mouse - CCP must make fine controls for ds3. Because maybe it will enough. And make right aim assist for CQC, coz weakpoint of gamepad playing is CQC. In Chromosome aim assist (and controls) worked good enough. Before blame ds3 users about "aim assist" try to play with gamepad. I need no aim assist with my ds3 to beat 90% of kbm users, but vs top kbm users ds3 is too weak in CQC :( I created this thread coz CCP do nothing about it. Now controls with gamepad is broken if compare it even with Chromosome. If compare it with bf3 - we are gimps here :( My team is full DS3 and i'm the only KBM user. Yet we do pretty fine in PC or anywhere else. Also, know that at the moment, aiming with mouse is difficult due to latest changing in controls done with Uprising. Finally, CCP is always tweaking DS3 acceleration and speed pattern. I know that for a fact. The CQC problem you're mentionning exists for both kbm and ds3. As a matter of fact it's even worse for KBM than DS3 atm. So hang ing there. And do trust me when i say that many top players are DS3 guys.
Awesome, can you let us know when CCP will stop trying to tweak our controls for us and just give us a screen full of sliders so we can control our own damned controls?
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:06:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:
Awesome, can you let us know when CCP will stop trying to tweak our controls for us and just give us a screen full of sliders so we can control our own damned controls?
+1 internets for this one |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:10:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:dalt ud wrote:
I just dont want it. I bought ps3 for comfortable playing, and dont want use kbm at all.
If you want comfortable and effortless recreation, play pub, or say, Cawadoody. If you want to play with the PC proto big dawgs, you gotta step up your game.
If you want play on PS3 - play with gamepad. Thats all.
No one who like gamepad wanna play with sh!t like kbm. |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:13:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote: My team is full DS3 and i'm the only KBM user. Yet we do pretty fine in PC or anywhere else. Also, know that at the moment, aiming with mouse is difficult due to latest changing in controls done with Uprising.
Finally, CCP is always tweaking DS3 acceleration and speed pattern. I know that for a fact.
The CQC problem you're mentionning exists for both kbm and ds3. As a matter of fact it's even worse for KBM than DS3 atm.
So hang ing there. And do trust me when i say that many top players are DS3 guys.
Tracky play with kbm too.
And i know many of kbm users, and see how they play. Kbm have advantage, dont try lie here. See Askull's video, and its obvious - skilled guy always use advantage of sensitivity. |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
165
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:27:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Beeeees wrote:dalt ud wrote:
I just dont want it. I bought ps3 for comfortable playing, and dont want use kbm at all.
If you want comfortable and effortless recreation, play pub, or say, Cawadoody. If you want to play with the PC proto big dawgs, you gotta step up your game. If you want play on PS3 - play with gamepad. Thats all. No one who like gamepad wanna play with sh!t like kbm.
I will play with the control scheme I want to play with, or not at all.
I will not play this game with a controller. It's awkward, sluggish, imprecise, and limited. I will not limit myself with a controller.
If you can't handle adapting to better control schemes; that is your problem, not ours. |
October SnowFox
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:44:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:
I will play with the control scheme I want to play with, or not at all.
I will not play this game with a controller. It's awkward, sluggish, imprecise, and limited. I will not limit myself with a controller.
If you can't handle adapting to better control schemes; that is your problem, not ours.
Simply recognize that you don't want to lose the advantage. Also don't forget that on KBM it is possible to use cheat - like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuZ55JpX6js |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:56:00 -
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October SnowFox wrote: Simply recognize that you don't want to lose the advantage.
Simply recognise that you cripple yourself just to retain your fragile ego thoroughly built up on all those hours of cawwadoody and cawwadoodyfild 3 "pwnage". |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
65
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:00:00 -
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October SnowFox wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:
I will play with the control scheme I want to play with, or not at all.
I will not play this game with a controller. It's awkward, sluggish, imprecise, and limited. I will not limit myself with a controller.
If you can't handle adapting to better control schemes; that is your problem, not ours.
Simply recognize that you don't want to lose the advantage. Also don't forget that on KBM it is possible to use cheat - like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuZ55JpX6js
The only cheat I see is a guy with nearly 700 shields that start regenerating in seconds...ck.o bullsht |
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:23:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:dalt ud wrote:Beeeees wrote:dalt ud wrote:
I just dont want it. I bought ps3 for comfortable playing, and dont want use kbm at all.
If you want comfortable and effortless recreation, play pub, or say, Cawadoody. If you want to play with the PC proto big dawgs, you gotta step up your game. If you want play on PS3 - play with gamepad. Thats all. No one who like gamepad wanna play with sh!t like kbm. I will play with the control scheme I want to play with, or not at all. I will not play this game with a controller. It's awkward, sluggish, imprecise, and limited. I will not limit myself with a controller. If you can't handle adapting to better control schemes; that is your problem, not ours.
Me too want to play with control scheme i want. And it is gamepad.
If other devs made good controls and CCP cant do it - its not our problem.
Maybe when they will do good gamepad controls - advantage of kbm will not so significant. For now its too big difference. |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:24:00 -
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XiBravo wrote: The only cheat I see is a guy with nearly 700 shields that start regenerating in seconds...ck.o bullsht
here is macros on kbm or modded controller. Too fast shooting with tac AR. |
KA24DERT
Not Guilty EoN.
55
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:35:00 -
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This thread is pointless spam. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:35:00 -
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When I read this treath I thought its a serious issue, but face it: you guys just a bunch of QQers (like the nerf LAV or nerf AV threaths) whos want a major change in the game because there is some top players who beat you. You talking about the 10% of the players who is unbeatable because of the advantage of kbm. Thats not 10%, its about 2-3% top and you ask CCP to disable kbm because of that 2-3%.
Kbm and controller has the different advantage. From a point of a sniper (me) its 2-3x harder to hit a controller user because the strafe, the move.
This isnt an issue. I dont see threats in General Discussion about it and only a few player back you up in this threat as well. So no, this game wont die because of the kbm, and kbm advantage is not a gamebreaker because the controller has an advantage as well.
I think you have to accept the fact that some players are simply better than you and this whole threat is just a comfortable excuse. |
dalt ud
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:40:00 -
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Otoky wrote: I think you have to accept the fact that some players are simply better than you and this whole threat is just a comfortable excuse.
It sooo strange, but better players are kbm users (90%). So we returned to start of discussion. |
dalt ud
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:42:00 -
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Otoky wrote: Thats not 10%, its about 2-3% top and you ask CCP to disable kbm because of that 2-3%.
I want better controls for gamepad at first. CCP do nothing, so i created the thread.
When mouse was broken at 6th may - here was unstopable crying from kbm users.
I want to get devs attention to problem of controls. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:45:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Otoky wrote: I think you have to accept the fact that some players are simply better than you and this whole threat is just a comfortable excuse.
It sooo strange, but better players are kbm users (90%). So we returned to start of discussion. Proof? |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
1420
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:48:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote: My team is full DS3 and i'm the only KBM user. Yet we do pretty fine in PC or anywhere else. Also, know that at the moment, aiming with mouse is difficult due to latest changing in controls done with Uprising.
Finally, CCP is always tweaking DS3 acceleration and speed pattern. I know that for a fact.
The CQC problem you're mentionning exists for both kbm and ds3. As a matter of fact it's even worse for KBM than DS3 atm.
So hang ing there. And do trust me when i say that many top players are DS3 guys.
Tracky play with kbm too. And i know many of kbm users, and see how they play. Kbm have advantage, dont try lie here. See Askull's video, and its obvious - skilled guy always use advantage of sensitivity.
Nope. Traky plays with a DS3 dude ^^
So are Olssam, itchi, and such. Dont ask me how they do, it's just a mystery to me. Truth is, those guy suck with a KBM. |
dalt ud
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Posted - 2013.05.27 08:02:00 -
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Otoky wrote:dalt ud wrote:Otoky wrote: I think you have to accept the fact that some players are simply better than you and this whole threat is just a comfortable excuse.
It sooo strange, but better players are kbm users (90%). So we returned to start of discussion. Proof?
impossible to give, i just asked guys what controller type they use.
Only way to ask CCP show us % of kbm users in top 1000 of players. |
dalt ud
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Posted - 2013.05.27 08:13:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:dalt ud wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote: My team is full DS3 and i'm the only KBM user. Yet we do pretty fine in PC or anywhere else. Also, know that at the moment, aiming with mouse is difficult due to latest changing in controls done with Uprising.
Finally, CCP is always tweaking DS3 acceleration and speed pattern. I know that for a fact.
The CQC problem you're mentionning exists for both kbm and ds3. As a matter of fact it's even worse for KBM than DS3 atm.
So hang ing there. And do trust me when i say that many top players are DS3 guys.
Tracky play with kbm too. And i know many of kbm users, and see how they play. Kbm have advantage, dont try lie here. See Askull's video, and its obvious - skilled guy always use advantage of sensitivity. Nope. Traky plays with a DS3 dude ^^ So are Olssam, itchi, and such. Dont ask me how they do, it's just a mystery to me. Truth is, those guy suck with a KBM.
only Traky impressed me in WTF.
Anyway it not cancel theme of this thread. |
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