I remember the good old days of the chromosome build where everyone was using different types of weapons. Now this game makes me feel like I'm playing halo in terms of weapons. That's one reason why I can't stand halo's multiplayer. The infamous battle rifle or DMR was the cream of the crop. If you weren't using any of those two weapons you would puting your self at a serious disadvantage.

I'm starting to get that same feeling again with dust. TAC AR's are ruining the gunplay in this game. I have tried real hard to not succumb to this skilless weapon(especially if you have a mod controller). But I will not. I pride myself too much to go into easy mode. I also notice large corps use these weapons exclusively. There's no challenge if you use these and I consider anyone who uses it as a crutch.

The TAC AR is blatantly OP. Or all the other weapons are UP. If players say CCP is catering to the "halo,COD,BF" crowd and you use this weapon you are basically a hypocrite.

The game is starting to lose it's fun factor because of this style of play imo. Now all I try to do is survive a match let alone get a kill when I'm put up against a platoon of TAC AR users.

For all the naysayers that are probably going to burn this thread to the ground and tell me either HTFU, STFU or GTFO. I don't care. I'm writing this post in hopes that CCP or a CPM listen to the reasoning of an experienced FPS player who wanted something different but seeing the same kitten all over again.

Where we playing the same build because all I saw wad LRs and assault rifles

lolvariety

only weapon that matters is the Tact. AR.

I hope they drop the TAC nerf on June 1st. One day after last respec opportunity, it would be delicious.

Then you answered my point. Halo like gunplay.

Tact. Duvolle

- Has the most range in AR

- Most dmg

- Highest ROF

- Best Hipfire

- highest DPS

Why would people use anything else

I hope they drop the TAC nerf on June 1st. One day after last respec opportunity, it would be delicious.

So?

Assault rifles will never die.

Sigh, idiots.
BF3 and COD have great weapon variety.
Its actually balanced.
Go into a match and tell me how many people are using the exact same weapon.
So if there is a cream of the crop weapon, its the exact opposite of catering to BF3/COD players.

You are in denial if you think the TAC nerf wont cause a river of tears. Taking away OP toys will create tantrums.

Don't know about CoD, but BF3 is this:

CQC Maps:

AR's: AEK, F2000, Famas

Shotguns: Spas, DAO, (any semi auto shotty)

Carbines: M4A1, A91


Mid- Long range maps:

AR's: AEK, AUG, AN94

Carbines: M4A1, ACW-R

AEK > every AR

M4A1 > every Carbine

Not really balanced when there's guns that people won't touch cuz there are other guns that does the job better.

Edit: In DUST Tact. AR > every gun

Damage isn't why people use it, it's all about the range. Unless they buff other weapons' ranges, Tac AR will always be king.

Sigh, idiots.
BF3 and COD have great weapon variety.
Its actually balanced.
Go into a match and tell me how many people are using the exact same weapon.
So if there is a cream of the crop weapon, its the exact opposite of catering to BF3/COD players.

Ill take a balanced game with good gunplay based on skill based percise weapons over spray and pray any day. Halo-esque gameplay is a compliment, not an insult. You can tell who is the better player when weapons require aim and are on even footing.

The days of "oh I am safe with my lazer because I have sharpshooter and nobody can get near me" are over. Now it comes down to players on relatively even footing fighting each other, and thats awesome.

I love the folks who claim TAR takes no skill, what guns DO take skill then? The only thing that takes more skill than a TAR would be a CQ sniper, and you never see anyone sniping outside the mountains.

Ill take a balanced game with good gunplay based on skill based percise weapons over spray and pray any day. Halo-esque gameplay is a compliment, not an insult. You can tell who is the better player when weapons require aim and are on even footing.

The days of "oh I am safe with my lazer because I have sharpshooter and nobody can get near me" are over. Now it comes down to players on relatively even footing fighting each other, and thats awesome.

I love the folks who claim TAR takes no skill, what guns DO take skill then? The only thing that takes more skill than a TAR would be a CQ sniper, and you never see anyone sniping outside the mountains.

ol...spoken like a true scrub that doesn't want his tact. AR nerfed. Truth be told, NO GUN in DUST takes skill, as recoil is almost none existent. Hold the trigger, bingo. The skill comes from player choices, and tactics employed during battle.

The Tact. AR however, requires LESS skill than most guns in DUST... if not all gun. It's a joke.

Who are you killing in 3-4 bullets? Scouts? Most decent fits would take 6-10 shots to take down. TAR could likely use a nerf in CQ, but mid/long range TAR fighting relies far more on skill than any other weapon in the game.

What takes more skill? Shotgunners hoping poor hit detection keeps them alive long enough to get in OHK range? Nova Knifers praying everyones situational awareness is poor so they can get a kill? MD aiming at the ground hoping their splash is big enough to make up for poor aim? Snipers sitting across the map hoping everyone just ignores them while they rack up free kills and are useless to their team? Automatic AR users spraying wildly hoping enough of their bullets hit the target

TAR does feel like Halo. And Halo very much feels like the better player will win an engagement.



Honestly, go ahead and nerf it. Ill just use the SR then and then youll want that nerfed too. I admit the TAR makes the SR a bit pointless, because it outranges it and the benifits of the SR dont make up for the range advantage. But nerf the TAR and ill be more than happy to use the Scramblers.