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Toolshed Mclean
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:19:00 -
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http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/0w2q1c/dust-514-review
whilst dust is far from perfect this review is the epitome of how useless big sites are when reviewing games these days 
enjoy as they completely miss everything Dust 514 encompasses.
and i do literally mean "everything"  |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:31:00 -
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"It may be technically free, but it isn't worth a minute of your time"
Oh Schnap! |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
362
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:32:00 -
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You can only buy the scrambler rifles with real money. A sniper rifle can cost $5 and you die once and it's gone. Picking your dropsuit and fitting mean nothing, they all play out the same.
This guy needs to respec into Level 5 reviewing. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3951
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:32:00 -
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Holy ****, they actually think there are no ISK scrambler rifles...
Its bad research on their part, but the way the market is structured makes the AUR items more visible so its easy to get that impression.
EDIT: they do have a point about the lack of visible impact and connection with EVE. |
Elrick Mercer
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:32:00 -
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Toolshed Mclean wrote:http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/0w2q1c/dust-514-review whilst dust is far from perfect this review is the epitome of how useless big sites are when reviewing games these days enjoy as they completely miss everything Dust 514 encompasses. and i do literally mean "everything"
Great review! |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:33:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:This guy needs to respec into Level 5 reviewing.
CCP should give him level 6 reviewing just in case... |
Icy TIG3R
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
163
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:36:00 -
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Bare lies in this review. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
362
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:37:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:"It may be technically free, but it isn't worth a minute of your time"
Oh Schnap!
Says not worth a minute of your time. Gives it a 4.4/10. False information aside, this little bit shows he has no clue how to review. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
448
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:44:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Holy ****, they actually think there are no ISK scrambler rifles...
Its bad research on their part, but the way the market is structured makes the AUR items more visible so its easy to get that impression.
EDIT: they do have a point about the lack of visible impact and connection with EVE.
He doesn't claim there are no ISK scrambler rifles. He says that if you want a similar item using in-game currency, you should be prepared to spend a "significant amount of time and effort with rote, point-and-shoot grinding."
He makes many valid points. This game is incomplete and lacks content. It seems that many of you have forgotten how much of a retardedly tedious and boring grind-fest this game is for new players. |
Onesimus Tarsus
Planetary Response Organization
44
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:00:00 -
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In the end, he has a valid set of points. I have yet to see one instance where EvE and Dust have anything more than a symbolic relationship. And I do find myself forcing my way through match after tedious match praying to God the next enhancement I skill into changes game-play one iota. I generally think the game is pretty good, but it isn't doing anything extremely new or cool. |
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Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:09:00 -
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Toolshed Mclean wrote:enjoy as they completely miss everything Dust 514 encompasses. and i do literally mean "everything"
What exactly does Dust "encompass"?
They hit on a number of the overarching problems with the game and didn't even touch some issues like the poor aiming, glitchy terrain and near total lack of balance that would have turned the review from "meh" to "avoid at all costs".
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3955
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:10:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Holy ****, they actually think there are no ISK scrambler rifles...
Its bad research on their part, but the way the market is structured makes the AUR items more visible so its easy to get that impression.
EDIT: they do have a point about the lack of visible impact and connection with EVE. He doesn't claim that there are no ISK scrambler rifles. He says that if you want a similar item using in-game currency, you should be prepared to spend a "significant amount of time and effort with rote, point-and-shoot grinding." He makes many valid points. This game is incomplete and lacks content. It seems that many of you have forgotten how much of a retardedly tedious and boring grind-fest this game is for new players.
Nope, he did not acknowledge that there are ISK variants, he said you could acquire "similarly interesting" weapons with ISK, not specifically the scrambler rifles. Even if he did , he is still plain incorrect, it isn't that hard to unlock a standard scrambler rifle; not any harder than and standard AR or other weapons. Seriously, who can't unlock 1 standard light weapon?
And yes, the game does lack content. Not really in terms of dropsuits, vehicles and guns; sure a lot is missing, but compared to a Halo or Killzone game, we have a lot of weapon types, plus all those variants and tiers. What should be a priority is game modes, the game modes we have right now are nothing but boring generic garbage, it wouldn't be so bad if we had many of them, but we only have 2 (variants like Domination and OMS don't count as actual new modes). |
thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
29
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:17:00 -
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The review sucks, but there are some good points.
Ccp should take note.
I defiantly agreed about the interaction between EVE and dust needs to be more noticeable. |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
278
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:18:00 -
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Looks like the guy's character is Dion Walker from the video. Might want to check his stats to see how much he really played.
I understand the market confusion, though. A friend of mine is reviewing Dust for a fairly big site and five days in, he was still under the impression the AUR guns were unique rather than renamed versions of the next tier. The game does nothing to explain or even let you intuit this structure without sifting through stat screens for each item. |
Cy Clone1
Ill Omens
EoN.
6
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:20:00 -
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They clearly forgot to put more than a few hours in before reviewing |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:26:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
And yes, the game does lack content. Not really in terms of dropsuits, vehicles and guns; sure a lot is missing, but compared to a Halo or Killzone game, we have a lot of weapon types, plus all those variants and tiers.
It's difficult to advertise a wide selection of weapons as a plus when most of those weapons are hardly used because they've been nerfed into obscurity, require you to dump SP just to test them out or are otherwise simply inferior to assault rifles.
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Stevez WingYip
Lumodynamics Power Control Corp
Panda Cave
22
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:31:00 -
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Very misleading. Very poor, and another reviewer that doesn't actually give DUST the time it needs. Glad we won't be seeing him in game at least. |
Onesimus Tarsus
Planetary Response Organization
44
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:31:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:They clearly forgot to put more than a few hours in before reviewing
This is the beta review. They're going to roll out a release review once they've worked all the bugs out. Or not, but either way, you'll have to read the same review over and over again until they do. Or don't. Of course, if you pay a little cash, they won't make you read it as often. Or they might. But don't worry, because readers of USA Today can actually send you passes to let you skip some of the reading if you promise to be faithful to their publication. Or they might just not even care. You have to admit, though, for what is completed, it's a AAA review already. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
132
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:36:00 -
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Funny how many here missed one point in the review. The review seemed like he doesn't care for eve. So he speaks for those (AND THERE ARE MANY) that care nothing for eve. So those players coming into this game would say "wow what a generic FPS" 4 out of 10.
I give it a 7 out of 10. |
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi
Rautaleijona
Gentlemen's Agreement
27
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:42:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:You can only buy the scrambler rifles with real money.
He said a few seconds later you can get similar stuff after using tons of SP on the skill tree.
Delirium Inferno wrote: A sniper rifle can cost $5 and you die once and it's gone.
That's not what he said, he said it'll run out after x number of times.
Delirium Inferno wrote:Picking your dropsuit and fitting mean nothing, they all play out the same.
It's actually very true, not much changes other than speed, stamina and hp.
Delirium Inferno wrote:This guy needs to respec into Level 5 reviewing.
You need Listening 5. |
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
315
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:46:00 -
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Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:You can only buy the scrambler rifles with real money. He said a few seconds later you can get similar stuff after using tons of SP on the skill tree. Delirium Inferno wrote: A sniper rifle can cost $5 and you die once and it's gone. That's not what he said, he said it'll run out after x number of times. Delirium Inferno wrote:Picking your dropsuit and fitting mean nothing, they all play out the same. It's actually very true, not much changes other than speed, stamina and hp. Delirium Inferno wrote:This guy needs to respec into Level 5 reviewing. You need Listening 5.
LOL |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
96
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:51:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:[quote=KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf]
He makes many valid points. This game is incomplete and lacks content. It seems that many of you have forgotten how much of a retardedly tedious and boring grind-fest this game is for new players. It's very easy for new players to believe that they need to spend $ to play the game in its fullest or to be competitive, without having to spend months in the dull SP grind, and in a way they are right.
that's true, it is grindy, but the ashborne has no skill requirements, and the first scram rifle only requires L1 in light weapons and L1 in scram rifles, that's like five battles tops
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Elrick Mercer
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:55:00 -
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Wow this is a first blame it on the reviewer for saying a bad game is bad!
You fan boys really need to take the blinders off. Everything he said is true the battles are not fun shooting is bland.
These are things that we've been saying about Dust for over a year now and then when it releases you thought people would say hey it has potential in 10 years Dust will be fantastic! WTF is gonna wait for 10 years? |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2399
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Posted - 2013.05.23 03:55:00 -
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Sadly I have seen better reviews from IGN, and I hate IGN with a burning firey passion. That is saying something. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
371
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Posted - 2013.05.23 04:07:00 -
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Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:You can only buy the scrambler rifles with real money. He said a few seconds later you can get similar stuff after using tons of SP on the skill tree. Delirium Inferno wrote: A sniper rifle can cost $5 and you die once and it's gone. That's not what he said, he said it'll run out after x number of times. Delirium Inferno wrote:Picking your dropsuit and fitting mean nothing, they all play out the same. It's actually very true, not much changes other than speed, stamina and hp. Delirium Inferno wrote:This guy needs to respec into Level 5 reviewing. You need Listening 5. First statement is still incorrect. It's not similar weapons, its the same weapons and it does take tons of SP.
He said you pay $5 for a sniper rifle. Even if he meant for a bundle of sniper rifles, it's still misleading as buying a single gun literally costs pennies.
He said that you can't even make your suit more powerful. If that's true then why do people complain about the disparity between new and old players? |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
Intersellar Conquest Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2013.05.23 04:43:00 -
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PSU gave a good review, and this one is good too.
http://www.cgmagazine.ca/game-reviews/ps3-review/1241-dust-514.html
Geoff, obviously didn't play much of Dust... |
xSir Campsalotx
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.23 05:06:00 -
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Yeah sure run around in a light or heavy basically same thing   |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.05.23 05:41:00 -
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He is still terrible reviewer. |
Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
139
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Posted - 2013.05.23 06:02:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:You can only buy the scrambler rifles with real money. A sniper rifle can cost $5 and you die once and it's gone. Picking your dropsuit and fitting mean nothing, they all play out the same.
This guy needs to respec into Level 5 reviewing.
lmao you made a dust funny |
Synthetic Surrogate
Venilen Eugenics Agency
59
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Posted - 2013.05.23 06:24:00 -
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Elrick Mercer wrote:Wow this is a first blame it on the reviewer for saying a bad game is bad!
You fan boys really need to take the blinders off. Everything he said is true the battles are not fun shooting is bland.
These are things that we've been saying about Dust for over a year now and then when it releases you thought people would say hey it has potential in 10 years Dust will be fantastic! WTF is gonna wait for 10 years?
Umm..
Not to be rude but "WTF" are you even doing here then?
Take a clue from yourself maybe?
Maybe you just like bitching and crying like a baby about things in general?
The majority of stuff in the review was opinion, that is what a review is. However.. some of the things that were presented as NOT opinion but game mechanics were wrong.
Seriously though, if the game is that terrible why dont you leave?
Seems simple right?
It must be that part of you enjoys complaining about the game and crying about how things are "wrong" from your view.. If this is the case you probably handle "real life" the same way and some has bled into these forums.
You have been here for over a year crying about a broken game that is no fun?
You gots issues brah! 
You are calling others "fanboys" to protect yourself form finding out YOU are the real fanboy..
Sad but true. 
Accept it so you can finally let go and move on. |
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