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Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:21:00 -
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I call it the hand holding effect. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2389
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:22:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:
Edit for maken. Why would you defend someone who clearly made a derogatory statement about a nation of people over the words he chose to call him out with? Thats just sad.
It's not a defense. It's an obvious error in grammar that people seem to use. The proper term he should have used would have been just simply "bigot" or "nationalist". But since the person went the extra mile and said "racist bigot" the meaning of the message changed.
I don't like being a grammar **** either, but when it comes to touchy subjects like this, people should know better. The only thing that offends me more than seeing someone call me a wet back is seeing someone fail as calling me a wet back the wrong way. If that person wants to offend me, they better do it right. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
554
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:25:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Jin Robot wrote:
Edit for maken. Why would you defend someone who clearly made a derogatory statement about a nation of people over the words he chose to call him out with? Thats just sad.
It's not a defense. It's an obvious error in grammar that people seem to use. The proper term he should have used would have been just simply "bigot" or "nationalist". But since the person went the extra mile and said "racist bigot" the meaning of the message changed. I don't like being a grammar **** either, but when it comes to touchy subjects like this, people should know better. The only thing that offends me more than seeing someone call me a wet back is seeing someone fail as calling me a wet back the wrong way. If that person wants to offend me, they better do it right. well man, i would be just as upset by someone calling you a ******* as that guy calling me, my family, and friends "allergic to education" |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2389
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:25:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:
That statement about Americans shows you are a racist bigot that's just as dum as that guy in the video.
Um, American is a nationality, not a race. defending an attack on a nation of people by pointing out the words chosen to point it out. you should run for politics, you seem to have the lack of morals needed. or maybe you think this thread needs to go down the "bash americans" path. you and your friend are right, the problem lies with american intelligence. brilliant
I hate politics dude. I am not defending anyone. The term "racist bigot" was just an incorrect term to use. If he just said "bigot" then I would have said nothing at all and moved on. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1225
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:25:00 -
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The warbarge should show yo what map you are about to fight on.
It would be awesome if we could could have some kind of holographic table, maybe show how many objectives will be on the map. Also on the planet outside the window highlight where we are fighting.
More so add locational chat to the warbarge so even if people aren't in team chat you can hear squads by walking close to people, saying hi, finding friends/ joining new groups.
As far as jumping right IN, dust just needs a training mode
The show info is dumb and should be removed. It's much easier to see stats on screen not in a new window. Look at the fitting window for dropsuits, it lists everything, on one screen and it even shows the perview of the model in the middle. The show info window is dumb drop it, replace it with something useful. New players don't get it becuase it's dumb and rightfully so. It takes up more room than the fitting window and shows a 5th of information while taking up the whole screen. Think about it.
I would make a new intro movie since this "release" has a an intro that shows PvE and older features like 2 equipement slot scouts. Why |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
554
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:27:00 -
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kumbaya |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2389
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:29:00 -
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*grabs the guitar and smashes it and then snuffs out the camp fire*
I hate that song. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
311
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:31:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Osiris Ausare wrote:stormtroopin wrote:C.O.D. f@g69 wrote:I'm shooting him, but he's not dying and the sensitivity is so wierd I'm just gna end up dying cuz there's so many of them and just one of me. freakin idiot hopped out of the LAV in a group of 3+ people and tried to solo them all. complains that the guy is not dying, yet CLEARLY taking damage, but can't aim good enough to kill the last 20 hp. someone get this kid a helmet and a box of crayons. But unfortunately this is an epidemic perpetuated by lonewolf games like CoD. Most of these type of players coming into Dust try fighting on their own, and when they get annihilated they get frustrated, rage and make videos like the one I posted above. Don't forget this kid complained about all the reading he had to do. I guess it would kill him to read, but then again look at most of America who are allergic to education and commonsense. My only question is how hard can it be to think, I guess it really does hurt to use one's brain. Argh, this is quite frustrating. *cries in corner for humanity* That statement about Americans shows you are a racist bigot that's just as dum as that guy in the video. nope he has figured out the solution, give him a Maken cookie.
Yet another simple fact is that your pure lack of education actually leads you to believe this thread has the slightest thing to do with race, ethnicity, nationality, or what brand of French fries your fat fingers can get your hands on while typing about something which you have no clue to academically argue.
Osiris brings fact (its actually YOU in the video.. don't lie) along with a personal observation of the American education system, hoping to place some of the blame on public school rather than the fact he was fed paint chips at a young age and just recently got his orthodontist to take out his braces.
now back on topic... the game is not polished, far from it, and we all know it. the game will struggle for a while due to its high learning curve initially and gameplay issues that are being worked on.
now if this kid were Canadian... I might be able to buy it, but unfortunately I think we have to assess the blame to that half eaten bag of cheesy poofs lodged between the cushions of the coach in his mothers basement.... |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
75
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:31:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Jin Robot wrote:
Edit for maken. Why would you defend someone who clearly made a derogatory statement about a nation of people over the words he chose to call him out with? Thats just sad.
It's not a defense. It's an obvious error in grammar that people seem to use. The proper term he should have used would have been just simply "bigot" or "nationalist". But since the person went the extra mile and said "racist bigot" the meaning of the message changed. I don't like being a grammar **** either, but when it comes to touchy subjects like this, people should know better. The only thing that offends me more than seeing someone call me a wet back is seeing someone fail as calling me a wet back the wrong way. If that person wants to offend me, they better do it right. well man, i would be just as upset by someone calling you a ******* as that guy calling me, my family, and friends "allergic to education"
I never intended this to be a derogatory remark, I never intended to hurt anyone. If it was taken in that manner then I'm sorry. I wasn't personally attacking you nor your family. I made an ill stated remark, that I shouldn't have been said. You can judge me however you want, as no matter what I say now it will be scrutinized and most likely not accepted.
All this thread was for was a discussion about how negative videos and commentaries could impact Dust, but it went in a horribly wrong direction. As I said I'm sorry if I offended anyone or hurt anyone, but as I realize this most likely will not be accepted so please take it however you want. |
sammus420
Goonfeet
74
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I hate politics dude. I am not defending anyone. The term "racist bigot" was just an incorrect term to use. If he just said "bigot" then I would have said nothing at all and moved on.
You're wasting your time, he couldn't even spell dumb correctly, so don't think you'll be able to educate him on the difference between nationalists and racists. |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2389
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:34:00 -
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Anyways, I place the blame on the mainstream gaming companies like EA, Activision, Epic Games, Infinity Ward, etc. for creating a culture within the gaming industry in which a portion of the console players have entitlement issues. Thankfullly, not all console players are that selfish and I hope in the future that Dust can finally show everyone everything that is wrong with the culture of the industry. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
553
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:35:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I hate politics dude. I am not defending anyone. The term "racist bigot" was just an incorrect term to use. If he just said "bigot" then I would have said nothing at all and moved on. You're wasting your time, he couldn't even spell dumb correctly, so don't think you'll be able to educate him on the difference between nationalists and racists. in terms of offensiveness, i dont see a difference<----my point |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
553
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:37:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Anyways, I place the blame on the mainstream gaming companies like EA, Activision, Epic Games, Infinity Ward, etc. for creating a culture within the gaming industry in which a portion of the console players have entitlement issues. Thankfullly, not all console players are that selfish and I hope in the future that Dust can finally show everyone everything that is wrong with the culture of the industry. i can get down with the EA hate and others. They have created the mold these players are struggling to climb out of. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
131
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:38:00 -
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I'll be honest with you. If people have no time to learn something about the game they're getting into before they get into it, then they are wasting their own time. The devs aren't doing it, other players aren't doing it, nobody is doing it but themselves. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
96
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:39:00 -
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3 mins in he sounds like other FPSs have spoiled him and he's too ******** to figure things out.I hope CCP keeps the learning curuve,keeps the cod kiddies out. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
132
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:41:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Anyways, I place the blame on the mainstream gaming companies like EA, Activision, Epic Games, Infinity Ward, etc. for creating a culture within the gaming industry in which a portion of the console players have entitlement issues. Thankfullly, not all console players are that selfish and I hope in the future that Dust can finally show everyone everything that is wrong with the culture of the industry.
I'm glad you left Bungie out of it... you might consider me a 'fanboi', but so far, they haven't done too much to account for this culture of entitlement. And I'm looking forward to Destiny, especially since it's slated for release on four different consoles. I do wish they'd make it on PC though |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
102
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:41:00 -
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Battle Android Trooper wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Jin Robot wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Stop pubstomping instant battles with proto everything & tac ar's along with proto-squad, and leave those modes to the new players. If you have other ways for those guys to build up their fragile egos, feel free to suggest it. It must be something they can do without leaving their mothers basement though. I have about 5mil SP but not in a corp. It's not just new players that are having issues. Every time I enter a IB match, if the enemy team has a bunch of corp players, we lose. If I'm on the team with the corp players, we win. If both teams have corps, it becomes a close game. That should say enough. There should be a instant battle mode that requires a certain amount of SP to enter, not WP. And that's a lie about all corps playing faction warfare only. These corps that enter IB know exactly what they're doing with their easy mode skilless guns and proto suits. If KDR didn't matter to these corps that are doing it, they wouldn't be pubstomping IB. Man I wish I could give you a +100. These corps roll up into these pub battles full of proto gear stomping beginners...and thinking that they are the ****. Must be so hard to kill that new player fitted in all militia gear....gtfoh...
I beat the **** out of imps with a freefit scout suit. Plus, I have no skill into dropsuits yet. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
108
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:42:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:I was searching youtube for Dust 514 videos and I came across one where the guy is a new player trying out Dust for the first time: http://youtu.be/x_yuJ-I4N9M Numerous times throughout the video he comments/complains how complicated the game is and how many things he has to do just to start a game, as he wanted to just turn it on and jump right in. He further complains about the loading times, the "pointless" warbarge, the complicated process to find friends, how bad and complicated the sensitivity is, how long it takes to kill someone, how frustrating the LAV is to drive and that due to the complexity of the game that all he knows how to do is spawn LAVs, that its really confusing and he doesn't know the point of the game and just how complicated the game is (did I state how much he thought the game was complicated). The rest of the video is of him running around trying to kill people, complaining that he can't find his KD and that it takes forever to kill someone. The fact is this exemplifies the struggle new players, especially ones who are used to CoD and Battlefield are going to have when starting Dust. Which is ****** up because the future of this game depends on it's growth, we can't survive on just the hardcore players. Yes, I think it's sad this guy can't comprehend the game as it's easy to grasp, but he's a perfect example of what the average FPS player will be like. Further, if more of these type of videos come out, it will make it harder for us to convince people to come and try Dust. What are your thoughts on how we can increase the playerbase and get the word out there about Dust? I know one major problem is we don't have a presence on Twitch.tv, if we could get a few streamers on there showing how awesome this game is it will help immensely not mention that it could bring us to the attention of the esports community. Osiris.
We don't want them. Also, why are you parroting your name after your post? Proving you remember what it is? |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
554
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:42:00 -
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the best we can do is try to make their transition easier. Dust uni and other friendly places. CCP has the burden of creating ease of transition. more tutorials, (to be skipped) better matchmaking, and hurry up with the pve already |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
454
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:42:00 -
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Dust will live and die by the target audience of fps roleplayers. A lot of the points in the video are valid - I'll pick one:
Warbarges are absolutely unnecessary. The same thing could be done in a loading screen instead. Merc quarters are equally worthless. A sleek menu would do the same thing much better, even more immersively.
Simple design: GÇó lobbies are menus GÇó war barge may be a planet screen GÇó fights are 3d
Unnecessarily complex design: GÇó lobbies are limited and worthless 3d without menu option GÇó war barge is a random 3d environment without a purpose GÇó fights are 3d |
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stormtroopin
Cygnus Tactical Operations Gentlemen's Agreement
85
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:46:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:stormtroopin wrote:C.O.D. f@g69 wrote:I'm shooting him, but he's not dying and the sensitivity is so wierd I'm just gna end up dying cuz there's so many of them and just one of me. freakin idiot hopped out of the LAV in a group of 3+ people and tried to solo them all. complains that the guy is not dying, yet CLEARLY taking damage, but can't aim good enough to kill the last 20 hp. someone get this kid a helmet and a box of crayons. But unfortunately this is an epidemic perpetuated by lonewolf games like CoD. Most of these type of players coming into Dust try fighting on their own, and when they get annihilated they get frustrated, rage and make videos like the one I posted above. Don't forget this kid complained about all the reading he had to do. I guess it would kill him to read, but then again look at most of America who are allergic to education and commonsense. My only question is how hard can it be to think, I guess it really does hurt to use one's brain. Argh, this is quite frustrating. *cries in corner for humanity* well this game does have an Eve style learning curve. the major problem is that all the new people coming into dust ARE the COD players. who have never even heard of Eve.
i cry in the corner not for humanity.. but for the future of Dust. |
Scarlette Letter
RISE OF THE EMPIRE The Superpowers
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:48:00 -
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Why are you sharing your own video of how bad you are at the game? |
stormtroopin
Cygnus Tactical Operations Gentlemen's Agreement
85
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:49:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:Dust will live and die by the target audience of fps roleplayers. A lot of the points in the video are valid - I'll pick one:
Warbarges are absolutely unnecessary. The same thing could be done in a loading screen instead. Merc quarters are equally worthless. A sleek menu would do the same thing much better, even more immersively.
Simple design: GÇó lobbies are menus GÇó war barge may be a planet screen GÇó fights are 3d
Unnecessarily complex design: GÇó lobbies are limited and worthless 3d without menu option GÇó war barge is a random 3d environment without a purpose GÇó fights are 3d eh.. i think this purely opinion. MY opinion is that i love the warbarge, and SOME kind of pregame place to strategize is necessary. granted it CAN be done in a lobby of sorts. but the third person walking around and SEEING other people's suits, the table (which hopefully will have a holo of the map), the planet in the window.. all of that gives you the immersive sense that you are a mercenary about to take part in a real battle that means something. not a run and gun instant queue COD style FPS.
things like the war barge are what makes Dust, Dust. take it away and you cater more to the COD players. and if you do that.. then why the hell dont we all just go play COD.. |
Severn Sights
DUST University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:50:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:Dust will live and die by the target audience of fps roleplayers. A lot of the points in the video are valid - I'll pick one:
Warbarges are absolutely unnecessary. The same thing could be done in a loading screen instead. Merc quarters are equally worthless. A sleek menu would do the same thing much better, even more immersively.
Simple design: GÇó lobbies are menus GÇó war barge may be a planet screen GÇó fights are 3d
Unnecessarily complex design: GÇó lobbies are limited and worthless 3d without menu option GÇó war barge is a random 3d environment without a purpose GÇó fights are 3d
Good points. I think it's because they have the ability to walk around in EVE, and at some point maybe they want the Dust players to be able to walk around a station with the EVE players and do.... I don't know... stuff? But right now it's completely useless. Why not take it out until it's actually worth something? |
Sgt Odd Ball
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:50:00 -
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Scarlette Letter wrote:Why are you sharing your own video of how bad you are at the game? He's trying to be a puppet master and get CCP to change the game to fit his own needs, probably. |
Scarlette Letter
RISE OF THE EMPIRE The Superpowers
3
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:53:00 -
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Sgt Odd Ball wrote: He's trying to be a puppet master and get CCP to change the game to fit his own needs, probably.
That's sad he can't be bothered to read. Knowledge is power. |
UK-Shots
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
89
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:08:00 -
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lol he clearly hasnt pressed half the buttons on his pad.
you just have to put abit of time into learning it rather then just deleting it.
ive been playing about 20 days and i pretty much know the game like the back of my hand |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
556
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:10:00 -
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UK-Shots wrote:lol he clearly hasnt pressed half the buttons on his pad.
you just have to put abit of time into learning it rather then just deleting it.
ive been playing about 20 days and i pretty much know the game like the back of my hand are you saying if you can do it anyone can? |
Dexter Peabody
Goonfeet
54
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:13:00 -
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i dont want a player like that in the new eden universe |
UK-Shots
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
89
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:18:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:UK-Shots wrote:lol he clearly hasnt pressed half the buttons on his pad.
you just have to put abit of time into learning it rather then just deleting it.
ive been playing about 20 days and i pretty much know the game like the back of my hand are you saying if you can do it anyone can?
with abit of time and patients. its not hard. if your not sure about somethin use google.. |
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