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Jin Robot
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:35:00 -
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sounds like this game will just require to much brain and love of leveling up for some people. |
Jin Robot
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:43:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Stop pubstomping instant battles with proto everything & tac ar's along with proto-squad, and leave those modes to the new players. If you have other ways for those guys to build up their fragile egos, feel free to suggest it. It must be something they can do without leaving their mothers basement though. |
Jin Robot
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:53:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:I"ve been here since beta. The FPS part of this game is **** broken. There are a slew of FPS games out there.. so all of them are wrong, and this MMOFPS nails it? Their is a reason why this game is standing with a 7 on meta crtitic users. and won't be an 8 by the critics either. They all wrong?
Their is a reason why you can't find anything about this game on NEOGAF, and N4G (site is ps3 heaven) are they wrong?
The game has a lot of issues man. But I like building my gundam. so that's the fun I found in this game. everything else has been done. and better.
While I play Metro last light, I go back to dust. While I play Call of juarez gunslinger. I go back to dust. But it aint cause dust is the greatest FPS game out there. search tag 'DUST 514' on n4g |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:57:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Dust gameplay is unfortunately worst with a new character. Later on you have your advanced suits and lots of customization. At the start the lack of passive skills makes weapons feel unresponsive. Without the ability to choose the right variants for your playstyle you are forced into a role you might not enjoy at all.
All in all the game does a very poor job of managing the first 60 minutes of playtime of new players. CCP should perhaps hire a professional gamedesigner. professional hand holder you mean |
Jin Robot
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:59:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Jin Robot wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Stop pubstomping instant battles with proto everything & tac ar's along with proto-squad, and leave those modes to the new players. If you have other ways for those guys to build up their fragile egos, feel free to suggest it. It must be something they can do without leaving their mothers basement though. I have about 5mil SP but not in a corp. It's not just new players that are having issue. Every time I enter a IB match, of the enemy team has a bunch of corp players, we lose. If I'm on the team with the corp players, we win. If both teams have corps, it becomes a close game. That should say enough. There should be a instant battle mode that requires a certain amount of SP to enter, not WP. And that's a lie about all corps playing faction warfare only. These corps that enter IB know exactly what they're doing with their easy mode skilled guns and proto suits. If KDR didn't matter to these corps that are doing it, they wouldn't be pubstomping IB. i agree with you, pubstomping is sad and detrimental to new player growth. my response was meant to illustrate how its here as long as sad little boys need to stomp, which is forever. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:03:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Surt gods end wrote:I"ve been here since beta. The FPS part of this game is **** broken. There are a slew of FPS games out there.. so all of them are wrong, and this MMOFPS nails it? Their is a reason why this game is standing with a 7 on meta crtitic users. and won't be an 8 by the critics either. They all wrong?
Their is a reason why you can't find anything about this game on NEOGAF, and N4G (site is ps3 heaven) are they wrong?
The game has a lot of issues man. But I like building my gundam. so that's the fun I found in this game. everything else has been done. and better.
While I play Metro last light, I go back to dust. While I play Call of juarez gunslinger. I go back to dust. But it aint cause dust is the greatest FPS game out there. search tag 'DUST 514' on n4g I did. And almost all posts are put up by emilio. lol That guy loves this game. lol emilio has been busy but he has not been alone. many posts from others (unless they are emilio alts lol) CCP already stated their grassroots approach. grassroots will not create explosive growth and does not include a major advertisement push. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:11:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Osiris Ausare wrote:stormtroopin wrote:C.O.D. f@g69 wrote:I'm shooting him, but he's not dying and the sensitivity is so wierd I'm just gna end up dying cuz there's so many of them and just one of me. freakin idiot hopped out of the LAV in a group of 3+ people and tried to solo them all. complains that the guy is not dying, yet CLEARLY taking damage, but can't aim good enough to kill the last 20 hp. someone get this kid a helmet and a box of crayons. But unfortunately this is an epidemic perpetuated by lonewolf games like CoD. Most of these type of players coming into Dust try fighting on their own, and when they get annihilated they get frustrated, rage and make videos like the one I posted above. Don't forget this kid complained about all the reading he had to do. I guess it would kill him to read, but then again look at most of America who are allergic to education and commonsense. My only question is how hard can it be to think, I guess it really does hurt to use one's brain. Argh, this is quite frustrating. *cries in corner for humanity* That statement about Americans shows you are a racist bigot that's just as dum as that guy in the video. Thats what this thread needed racism and bigotry.
Edit for maken. Why would you defend someone who clearly made a derogatory statement about a nation of people over the words chosen to call him out with? That is sad. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:19:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:
That statement about Americans shows you are a racist bigot that's just as dum as that guy in the video.
Um, American is a nationality, not a race. defending an attack on a nation of people by pointing out the words chosen to point it out. you should run for politics, you seem to have the lack of morals needed. or maybe you think this thread needs to go down the "bash americans" path. you and your friend are right, the problem lies with american intelligence. brilliant |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:25:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Jin Robot wrote:
Edit for maken. Why would you defend someone who clearly made a derogatory statement about a nation of people over the words he chose to call him out with? Thats just sad.
It's not a defense. It's an obvious error in grammar that people seem to use. The proper term he should have used would have been just simply "bigot" or "nationalist". But since the person went the extra mile and said "racist bigot" the meaning of the message changed. I don't like being a grammar **** either, but when it comes to touchy subjects like this, people should know better. The only thing that offends me more than seeing someone call me a wet back is seeing someone fail as calling me a wet back the wrong way. If that person wants to offend me, they better do it right. well man, i would be just as upset by someone calling you a ******* as that guy calling me, my family, and friends "allergic to education" |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:27:00 -
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kumbaya |
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:35:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I hate politics dude. I am not defending anyone. The term "racist bigot" was just an incorrect term to use. If he just said "bigot" then I would have said nothing at all and moved on. You're wasting your time, he couldn't even spell dumb correctly, so don't think you'll be able to educate him on the difference between nationalists and racists. in terms of offensiveness, i dont see a difference<----my point |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:37:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Anyways, I place the blame on the mainstream gaming companies like EA, Activision, Epic Games, Infinity Ward, etc. for creating a culture within the gaming industry in which a portion of the console players have entitlement issues. Thankfullly, not all console players are that selfish and I hope in the future that Dust can finally show everyone everything that is wrong with the culture of the industry. i can get down with the EA hate and others. They have created the mold these players are struggling to climb out of. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:42:00 -
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the best we can do is try to make their transition easier. Dust uni and other friendly places. CCP has the burden of creating ease of transition. more tutorials, (to be skipped) better matchmaking, and hurry up with the pve already |
Jin Robot
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:10:00 -
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UK-Shots wrote:lol he clearly hasnt pressed half the buttons on his pad.
you just have to put abit of time into learning it rather then just deleting it.
ive been playing about 20 days and i pretty much know the game like the back of my hand are you saying if you can do it anyone can? |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:28:00 -
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UK-Shots wrote:Jin Robot wrote:UK-Shots wrote:lol he clearly hasnt pressed half the buttons on his pad.
you just have to put abit of time into learning it rather then just deleting it.
ive been playing about 20 days and i pretty much know the game like the back of my hand are you saying if you can do it anyone can? with abit of time and patients. its not hard.. but you have to like the game to even wanna learn. if your not sure about somethin use google.. the warbage is annoying. it only seems to come up when im in a squad I just thought you meant you came from COD or other FPSs and adjusted. I dont think its that hard either, the depth is a reason I like the game. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 21:39:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Turan chiron wrote:Truly if someone is too lazy to read up on a game it's their fault. This game is far too complicated for a few tutorials and that's the way I like it. Really do you want to play with some kid who is too add to pay attention to the battle and is just trying to nova knife ppl? The guy who made the video is a complete idiot and should be ashamed to call himself a gamer If you go to every game that you play's forums and spend hours searching for information, you are an outlier. It doesn't make you smarter, or even better at games. In fact, it probably means you aren't very discerning with your time. I'm not gonna go so far as to insult you for it, but I think you can imagine some insults that I could hurl your direction if you try. Most of us have lives, jobs, responsibilities, friends, family, etc. People try out F2P games because they are free. If they like it, they keep playing, if they don't there's no skin off their backs. They just delete it. It's low risk. If we want the game to grow, we need to show these people why they shouldn't just delete the game immediately. I get that having some esoteric knowledge about a F2P FPS gives you a feeling of superiority, you feel like you know something that other people don't know. That can feel good, especially to someone with low self esteem, or little "real world" knowledge to match. That doesn't, however, make people who don't have and/or don't know that there's a REASON to have that knowledge "a complete idiot." the reason he is a complete idiot is because he chose to pass on the knowledge he admits he didnt bother gathering. it was an idiots review of dust 514.
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:13:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Laheon wrote:They do. One of the first windows to pop up when you make a new character is the tutorial window. The player in the video just ignores them.
CCP can't help it if players don't read the tutorial. Yeah, who here used the tutorial first time through... you want to get into the damned game! I never watched it... don't watch if for any game. Work with what people actually do... not what we think they should do. that might be the most entitled statement i have ever read.
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:42:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Jin Robot wrote:that might be the most entitled statement i have ever read.
Entitled? I guess the opposite is just telling them that they should do things they way you think it should be done. How about pragmatic instead of dictatorial? Do we want new people in the game or do they all have to jump through a set of hoops of our choosing because we've been here longer and feel elite compared to them? that has nothing to do with how long we have been here. It is about people not being bothered to take any time, put any effort into something they want before they expect something from it. its a free game. Entitled is exactly what I meant.
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 23:01:00 -
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Battle Android Trooper wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Laheon wrote:They do. One of the first windows to pop up when you make a new character is the tutorial window. The player in the video just ignores them.
CCP can't help it if players don't read the tutorial. Yeah, who here used the tutorial first time through... you want to get into the damned game! I never watched it... don't watch if for any game. Work with what people actually do... not what we think they should do. that might be the most entitled statement i have ever read. You may think it is entitled but he is on to something. Check out some marketing books by Dan Kennedy. It is about people not being bothered to take any time, put any effort into something they want before they expect something from it. its a free game. Entitled is exactly what I meant. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.22 23:27:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Jin Robot wrote:It is about people not being bothered to take any time, put any effort into something they want before they expect something from it. its a free game. Entitled is exactly what I meant. Dude, it's an f'ing game. Why should people have to do things they don't like so that hopefully, some day, in the future, they can figure out how to have fun? I'm crossing you off my list of potential product designers. Next thats quite alright, I would go after a more advanced demographic, I would let someone else make the For Dummies version, just because the masses need no effort products and no effort paths through things doesnt mean a niche market cannot be found. DUST is niche and free so stop
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.23 00:24:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sir Eos wrote:Hows this for entitled attitude?
Since I have no life I deserve better gear than you. Because I have no life, I deserve to talk down to other people.
Etc. Etc.
All this talk of entitlement... You elitist turds are the worst, you expect more handouts than any other group of people I've ever known. So the next time you decide to use that word, think very carefully about who and what you are applying it too.
For you are guilty of it more than the noob.
Hating on cod does not make you cool. Liking a game that "entitles" you power over casuals, does nor make you cool either. Whining about making a game easy to pick up and play is ... stupid. Expecting a game to be dumbed down enough for you to just pick up and play, all while ignoring the tutorials is...entitled. Criticizing factors of the game because of lack of knowledge due to lack of effort is...entitled. Expecting a game to be just like another, and complaining that it isn't is...entitled. Assuming you are good at something that you've never even played before is...entitled. I remember when you used to actually have to read a manual to understand a game. Image that. Yes, this kid is a noob. Yes he has a hard time. Yes CCP could smooth this out. Yes, he most definitely has an entitled attitude. Truth |
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