We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

These sound more like Beta questions than fixing a released game questions.

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

These sound more like Beta questions than fixing a released game questions.

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

Ugh, just please don't even go there. Just let them do their best to fix this with the most information that they can get, not need to antagonize.

The framerate issue isnt exclusive to PC. The longer you play dust, the more likely you are to experience framerate drops, especiallyy on a 5-letter map. Once you play on a 5-letter map, you will have to reset your ps3 cause the framerate will get progressively worse.

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

Thanks for the relevant info STUBBY your really contributing. I see you started a thread in Genral Discussion good for you

The issue is a simple one, framerate lag occurs during situations where more information is required than can be processed. I see this most commonly in tight spaces with multiple players fighting close together, this situation is multiplied the longer you play. Always do a fresh reset before a PC battle. In my experience most players "warm up" before their match and have some amount of time in game before PC. The other side of this is it seems to come down to the PS3 ability to buffer adequately as so much of this is server side. You need a way of removing people from servers automatically who are slowing us down, but that is bandwidths not buffering.

The issue is a simple one, framerate lag occurs during situations where more information is required than can be processed. I see this most commonly in tight spaces with multiple players fighting close together, this situation is multiplied the longer you play. Always do a fresh reset before a PC battle. In my experience most players "warm up" before their match and have some amount of time in game before PC. The other side of this is it seems to come down to the PS3 ability to buffer adequately as so much of this is server side. You need a way of removing people from servers automatically who are slowing us down, but that is bandwidths not buffering.

Reseting before a PC match doesn't always work it didn't work for me today.

Agreed, but I think it will not hurt.

Oh yeah it cant hurt but just putting that it doesn't always work so that if someone reads this and decides to reset before a game and still get lag they dont explode from rage.

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1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
Only the Planetary Conquest Battle
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
United States, Missouri
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?
Match was full although my team had 5 people freeze out.
My team had A tank and two dropships, other team had 4 tanks.

We experienced multiple bugs including but not limited to:
Tank Hitting another tank with a railgun and damage not being received on the other tank when hit box shows up.
Proximity Explosives not damaging a tank

I know you won't refund our ISK because CCP doesn't do that.

Almur Altbrard VI district 9
Skim Junction Biomass Facility Version


1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
Only the Planetary Conquest Battle
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
United States, Missouri
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?
Match was full although my team had 5 people freeze out.
My team had A tank and two dropships, other team had 4 tanks.


My Personal Bugs: Large Framerate drops & Rubberbanding.


We experienced multiple bugs including but not limited to:
Tank Hitting another tank with a railgun and damage not being received on the other tank when hit box shows up.
Proximity Explosives not damaging a tank hit box showed up for them as well.
No damage registering only on tanks, I believe they were enforcer tanks but not entirely sure.
Multiple Disconnects (5) including two systems freezing (1 Slim & 1 Fat)
Rubberbanding, & Framrates down to sometimes 1 per 5 seconds.

Refering to Doomleads post:
If CCP did decide to refund ISK it would go to KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
Although I doubt that will happen.

Almur Altbrard VI district 9
Skim Junction Biomass Facility Version


1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
Only the Planetary Conquest Battle
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
United States, Missouri
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?
Match was full although my team had 5 people freeze out.
My team had A tank and two dropships, other team had 4 tanks.


My Personal Bugs: Large Framerate drops & Rubberbanding.


We experienced multiple bugs including but not limited to:
Tank Hitting another tank with a railgun and damage not being received on the other tank when hit box shows up.
Proximity Explosives not damaging a tank hit box showed up for them as well.
No damage registering only on tanks, I believe they were enforcer tanks but not entirely sure.
Multiple Disconnects (5) including two systems freezing (1 Slim & 1 Fat)
Rubberbanding, & Framrates down to sometimes 1 per 5 seconds.

Refering to Doomleads post:
If CCP did decide to refund ISK it would go to KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
Although I doubt that will happen.

The framerate issue isnt exclusive to PC. The longer you play dust, the more likely you are to experience framerate drops, especiallyy on a 5-letter map. Once you play on a 5-letter map, you will have to reset your ps3 cause the framerate will get progressively worse.

This is exactly what I have experienced as well. Framerate issues appear and require a Dust client restart after about 4 hours. The framerate issue does appear most frequently on the 5 point map.

I have been playing at 480p since Monday to see if this improves Dust performance, hit detection, aiming, etc. etc.

I have not had any framerate issues since then. I know this is not ideal, but since PC is that important, maybe someone should test it at 480p to see if they can recreate the problem at a lower resolution.

I have not played any PC battles, just pub match play. Georgia, USA.

I do not know if it is because of the Uprising 1.1 patch or the lower resolution but I do not seem to get stuck on corners, walls, etc. as much. Nanite injectors are also working much better for me as well.

The performance issue after extended period of play should be memory related.

It could either be memory leak, or memory fragmentation. The former is relatively easy to detect and fix - we've found and fixed a few minor leaks in the development branch but they didn't make it into the 1.1 patch in time.

On the other hand, memory fragmentation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragmentation_(computing)) is much more difficult to deal with.
I think most of the games more or less suffer from it, the ones suffer less can usually afford longer period of play without affecting the performance too much.

As far as I know, the only robust (and the most efficient) way to defregment the memory is to quit the game and restart. This way the PS3 OS can completely re-claim the memory used by the game and make it into a continuous block again. That is why resetting the game can usually fix the performance.

could it be because we have an entire team of 16 players using the voice chat system that's overloading whatever it is the game is rendering?

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

That's one of the theory we want to verify. If you guys can provide some comparison of the performance with voice chat on and off, it'll be very useful for us to narrow down the problem. :)

The reason why the PC battles perform much worse compared to other battles have been a mystery to us.

We have been running many PC battles internally but couldn't reproduce the problem.

I suspect the culprit is the combination of several factors that only manifest in a real world battle performed by the players.
The next step for the devs is to see if we can join some real PC battles on TQ and hopefully to get some repros.
If we're lucky we can capture some useful data for analysis.

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

this match had more lag the PC matches then before.
I used my rail HAV on missile HAV at close range. I shot hit damage done, next 5 round hit no damage. the other HAV just turned their turret to face me and fired did damage without any problems as all of my shoot did no damage. yes I was zoomed in and had their HP up on my screen. I did not move, he did not move.

as the fight went only the lag got worse to the point at the end that I had a full 30second long lag spikes.

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

1) I restart my PS3 before every PC match.
2) US (Florida)
3) Full, usually 2-3 on each team

Side note.. frame rate issue get progresivly worse as the battle progresses, usually the match is fine until the half way point then it goes downhill. Also Frame rate is usually fine outside of the cities, once inside its noticeably worse.

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

Quick update, we found and fixed a memory leak in the development branch.

The bug affects not only PC but also regular battles, the amount of leaked memory is roughly proportional to the length of the play time and can eventually cause the client to do slide shows.

Given that it's only a few weeks until the next major client update, we may not do a client patch in between.

My suggestion is to regularly reset the game before the fix is deployed as that'll reclaim the leaked memory. I'm sure some of you guys are already doing this :)

Quick update, we found and fixed a memory leak in the development branch.

The bug affects not only PC but also regular battles, the amount of leaked memory is roughly proportional to the length of the play time and can eventually cause the client to do slide shows.

Given that it's only a few weeks until the next major client update, we may not do a client patch in between.

My suggestion is to regularly reset the game before the fix is deployed as that'll reclaim the leaked memory. I'm sure some of you guys are already doing this :)

Quick update, we found and fixed a memory leak in the development branch.

The bug affects not only PC but also regular battles, the amount of leaked memory is roughly proportional to the length of the play time and can eventually cause the client to do slide shows.

Given that it's only a few weeks until the next major client update, we may not do a client patch in between.

My suggestion is to regularly reset the game before the fix is deployed as that'll reclaim the leaked memory. I'm sure some of you guys are already doing this :)

Quick update, we found and fixed a memory leak in the development branch.

The bug affects not only PC but also regular battles, the amount of leaked memory is roughly proportional to the length of the play time and can eventually cause the client to do slide shows.

Given that it's only a few weeks until the next major client update, we may not do a client patch in between.

My suggestion is to regularly reset the game before the fix is deployed as that'll reclaim the leaked memory. I'm sure some of you guys are already doing this :)

Quick update, we found and fixed a memory leak in the development branch.

The bug affects not only PC but also regular battles, the amount of leaked memory is roughly proportional to the length of the play time and can eventually cause the client to do slide shows.

Given that it's only a few weeks until the next major client update, we may not do a client patch in between.

My suggestion is to regularly reset the game before the fix is deployed as that'll reclaim the leaked memory. I'm sure some of you guys are already doing this :)

Don't you guys think this sort of information should actually be given to players in the game, rather than posting it in a random thread on a forum almost no one uses?

now if you could test the patch so the game doesn't completely own us :P

also draw distance! cant see enemies qq and CCP bomb needs skill points.

I am glad you found one source for the performance issues but I am really unhappy that we have to wait a few weeks to get this thing fixed.

As by now this has severe impact on the outcome of pc battles and maybe a few weeks could be too late as some of the players I have talked to are already loosing interest in planetary conquest due to the performance issues. Its just not fun playing with one or two frames per second....

Yes, we may need another round to verify if this fix helps significantly in PC.

I'll tell Bomb to practice more

Quick update, we found and fixed a memory leak in the development branch.

The bug affects not only PC but also regular battles, the amount of leaked memory is roughly proportional to the length of the play time and can eventually cause the client to do slide shows.

Given that it's only a few weeks until the next major client update, we may not do a client patch in between.

My suggestion is to regularly reset the game before the fix is deployed as that'll reclaim the leaked memory. I'm sure some of you guys are already doing this :)

Personally I'd like to roll this out yesterday but as steadyhand amarr mentioned in a later reply, by the time the patch is submitted to Sony and passes its QA pipeline, it'll be very close to the next major client update.

I understand...

Personally I'd like to roll this out yesterday but as steadyhand amarr mentioned in a later reply, by the time the patch is submitted to Sony and passes its QA pipeline, it'll be very close to the next major client update.

I know it's probably a lot to ask, but please be patient.

I understand...

Personally I'd like to roll this out yesterday but as steadyhand amarr mentioned in a later reply, by the time the patch is submitted to Sony and passes its QA pipeline, it'll be very close to the next major client update.

I know it's probably a lot to ask, but please be patient.

We are investigating this as we speak.

A couple of questions:

1. How many battles had you been in before you experienced this?
2. Where are you located (in the real world)?
3. Was the match full, and how many vehicles were being used on average?

And anything else you think is relevant, please let us know. (That goes for others that experience this as well of course.)

Thanks guys!

Can you tell us more about the process for submitting code to Sony and their QA process?

Is there anything we can do as a community to encourage Sony to streamline this process?