1. Corporations should be able to restrict who and how players join

I do not agree about a kick option. Limiting a players availability to join without rank permission is enough - if they get past that hurdle they should be able to sabotage at pleasure.

But if you want to add a kick SQUAD option - that would add a layer to sabotaging and prevention.

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^^^ That's for you CCP

My stand on this is simple.

1. Corporations should be able to restrict who and how players join

2. Corporations should be able to kick Crashers from a match

CCP had mentioned previously to the community wanting to put a roster system into the game and was unable to do so in time for the launch of Planetary Conquest. As it stands right now it is far too easy to infiltrate a match and requires no real breach of trust.

This breach of trust is what makes spying and espionage of value and a unique aspect of New Eden and should not be stamped out. As it stands now though, because there are no real game mechanics to control the matches, AWOXING is a broken game mechanic.

I do not agree about a kick option. Limiting a players availability to join without rank permission is enough - if they get past that hurdle they should be able to sabotage at pleasure.

But if you want to add a kick SQUAD option - that would add a layer to sabotaging and prevention.

So simple... and yet...
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^^^ That's for you CCP

I do not agree about a kick option. Limiting a players availability to join without rank permission is enough - if they get past that hurdle they should be able to sabotage at pleasure.

But if you want to add a kick SQUAD option - that would add a layer to sabotaging and prevention.

I do not agree about a kick option. Limiting a players availability to join without rank permission is enough - if they get past that hurdle they should be able to sabotage at pleasure.

But if you want to add a kick SQUAD option - that would add a layer to sabotaging and prevention.

My stand on this is simple.

1. Corporations should be able to restrict who and how players join

2. Corporations should be able to kick Crashers from a match

CCP had mentioned previously to the community wanting to put a roster system into the game and was unable to do so in time for the launch of Planetary Conquest. As it stands right now it is far too easy to infiltrate a match and requires no real breach of trust.

This breach of trust is what makes spying and espionage of value and a unique aspect of New Eden and should not be stamped out. As it stands now though, because there are no real game mechanics to control the matches, AWOXING is a broken game mechanic.

Simply put - all of your guys's idea is indeed taking away from Meta.

I would prefer we find a balance of sabotage vs protection, and a kicking function simply eliminates sabotaging.

And I never said my idea was full proof - hehe.

If you infiltrate far enough to earn the right to enter PC without a squad leader - then you did what any good spy wants and to get kicked immediately trying after all the time you put getting the rank to get in there - would be silly.

My stand on this is simple.

1. Corporations should be able to restrict who and how players join

2. Corporations should be able to kick Crashers from a match

CCP had mentioned previously to the community wanting to put a roster system into the game and was unable to do so in time for the launch of Planetary Conquest. As it stands right now it is far too easy to infiltrate a match and requires no real breach of trust.

This breach of trust is what makes spying and espionage of value and a unique aspect of New Eden and should not be stamped out. As it stands now though, because there are no real game mechanics to control the matches, AWOXING is a broken game mechanic.

Not saying anything new, not that I disagree. Just another example of CCP pushing something before its ready.

We don't need to kick them, just mark them as an enemy.

So a 16 on 16 just turned into a 15 on 17, you'll live.

Who says kicking limits sabotaging? What if the infiltrator has the ability to kick...do you think that will end well?

Kicking can be used to help the infiltrated, or it can be used to screw over the them even more.

Its in EVE already, so it needs to come to Dust.


EDIT: and if he gets kicked right away, all it means is he's a bad spy and doesn't deserve to do damage

We don't need to kick them, just mark them as an enemy.

So a 16 on 16 just turned into a 15 on 17, you'll live.

I really really like that idea alot.

+1

unless its 14 vs 18. But then It comes back to your gun game. If your corp is so called "BAD ASS" One player on your team should not have an issue against 2. 3 maybe. But it should be 1>2. This is still a fps by the slimmest margin, but still an fps.

If the saboteur has the ability to kick he probably has access to your wallet and the ability to simply remove all members from the corps. Getting kicks mid-game would be the least of your concerns.

But I understand where you're coming from.

The issues is whose clones take the hit once you mark them red? The biggest issue isn't the team killing, its the ability for them to suicide and reduce your districts clone count.

I really don't want/need a kick feature. Only the ability to choose who in the corp will be allowed to deploy squads/teams into PC battles.

If a spy manages to get those and sabotages the battle, well gg sir well played.

Simply put - all of your guys's idea is indeed taking away from Meta.

I would prefer we find a balance of sabotage vs protection, and a kicking function simply eliminates sabotaging.

And I never said my idea was full proof - hehe.

If you infiltrate far enough to earn the right to enter PC without a squad leader - then you did what any good spy wants and to get kicked immediately trying after all the time you put getting the rank to get in there - would be silly.

Simply put - all of your guys's idea is indeed taking away from Meta.

I would prefer we find a balance of sabotage vs protection, and a kicking function simply eliminates sabotaging.

And I never said my idea was full proof - hehe.

If you infiltrate far enough to earn the right to enter PC without a squad leader - then you did what any good spy wants and to get kicked immediately trying after all the time you put getting the rank to get in there - would be silly.