This recent wave of "spies" isn't a high-level example of what the metagame can (and will) turn into.

It's a starting point for a sabotage Corp to get their name into the public eye as "the ones who did it first". And they didn't do a great job, so this fuss will die down soon enough, but they've shown people who didn't see it coming (poor fools) what to expect in future, and opened the doors for others to do it right.

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing where this goes.

Kick everyone out of the main PC corp leave only your trusted squad leaders, get one of your directors to make a isk transfer alt and setup an secondary 'Grunt' Corp.

Use the secondary corp to pull invites from. Keep roster of folks in second corp track their behavior and performance and trust levels. People in the PC squad leader corp will be the only ones able to pull folks from the grunt corp into planetary conquest since grunt corp will not be on the map at all.

Its pretty simple stupid, prevent random squads of strangers at least, unless you are really bad at recruiting you shouldn't get more than 3 turn coats and if you keep filtering them out that should all go away.

I respectfully disagree.

Two corps talk a lot of crap then fight it out. The loser walks away licking their wounds and thinking "Man we didn't win but we gave it our all." It's like 2 little kids fighting, they usually end up friends after the fight.

With this tactic that is being employed, the loser suffers a more humiliating defeat, they never have a chance to say "We gave it out best." Instead they're left saying "Those dicks never even gave us a chance omg I wish we could murder them, those dirty rotten bastards." To most victors, this is a far more enjoyable outcome

Meta-gaming, the thing politicians would enjoy most if they played video games. Where somebody is rewarded and praised for lying, stealing, deceiving, manipulating and betraying trust for their (or their groups) own good or agenda.

When you apply it to real life, I guess the king of meta-gaming is the current US administration

Whole reason why I linked a few propaganda posters too.

Meta-gaming, the thing politicians would enjoy most if they played video games. Where somebody is rewarded and praised for lying, stealing, deceiving, manipulating and betraying trust for their (or their groups) own good or agenda.

When you apply it to real life, I guess the king of meta-gaming is the current US administration

The difference is in EvE it takes Months if not years to develop a spy and infiltrate a corp having to get past API searches and once your in the corp you have to socialize and convince the leadership to give you role to access corp isk and hangers. In dust all you have to do is get your application accepted and then you can sabotage every corp match without ever being detected by pulling the plug on their internet after queing and enemy force into battle.

That's some meta game..... in depth stuff.

Kitten Meta gaming. If CCP wants to have meta gaming in a FPS they can say goodbye to Dust. FPS don't like meta gaming. They like shooting people in the face. Dust reviews across the board have been subpar.

Let's say that you infiltrate, spy, manage to build rank and kick everyone out of the corp and steal ISK. All that you've done is set them back a little. Some people may leave the corp but the people that helped build the corp, the core members will stay and/or rebuild. You can steal all of their ISK but they will just start over and get back to where they were. Meanwhile, you are getting some likes on the forums for outing them.

Scenario 2 could be that you infiltrate them and teamkill them or sabotage their battle. Worst case scenario is that they lose that battle or that district. But if they are better than their opponents, they will launch an attack and reclaim the district. You can always bounce back from an infiltration.

lol @ didn't see it coming... their have been posts for months about it. Everyone knew this would be abused at some point. I'm in PC to fight tough matches. Not sit in the enemy MCC and cook grenades on myself to take planets.

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Let's say that you infiltrate, spy, manage to build rank and kick everyone out of the corp and steal ISK. All that you've done is set them back a little. Some people may leave the corp but the people that helped build the corp, the core members will stay and/or rebuild. You can steal all of their ISK but they will just start over and get back to where they were. Meanwhile, you are getting some likes on the forums for outing them.

Scenario 2 could be that you infiltrate them and teamkill them or sabotage their battle. Worst case scenario is that they lose that battle or that district. But if they are better than their opponents, they will launch an attack and reclaim the district. You can always bounce back from an infiltration.

But you want to know what is more damaging than that? Corp A and Corp B talking smack to each other so then they decide to battle it out finally. Corp A beats B...B wants revenge so they battle again and Corp A smacks them again. And a third and 4th time. After awhile, Corp B is going to realize that they are just embarassing themselves because they can not defeat Corp A and they will just stop their campaign. Corp B is now demoralized.

This recent wave of "spies" isn't a high-level example of what the metagame can (and will) turn into.

It's a starting point for a sabotage Corp to get their name into the public eye as "the ones who did it first". And they didn't do a great job, so this fuss will die down soon enough, but they've shown people who didn't see it coming (poor fools) what to expect in future, and opened the doors for others to do it right.

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing where this goes.