I don't know if this has been addressed, but I know all of us heavies are wondering how it is going to work. I think anytime there is a new dropsuit released, you should be able to transfer any SP you have in another suit to the new one, regardless of suit type.

For example:

Joe wants to be a Caldari Heavy but they don't exist yet. Instead of being an Amarr Heavy, he opts for Caldari Logi. In 4 months, Caldari Heavies are released. He still really wants to be a Caldari Heavy. He should be able to transfer SP from his Caldari Logi dropsuit skills to the Caldari Heavy suit skills.

I have no idea how that would work, or if it's even possible, but that would be optimal IMO.

It WILL happen with every released suit, same with tanks/LAVs, and dropships. The game is is still in beta phase so they have to give out respec since all the races are still unreleased.

That said if they do it they will only give you back the sp of skills effected.

I would imagine speccing to lvl 5 of basic heavy suit will still be a prerequisite for the racial variants

I would imagine speccing to lvl 5 of basic heavy suit will still be a prerequisite for the racial variants. So I'll be taking the reset and speccing pretty much up to that till my winmatar heavy comes along.
4 low and 1 high is rubbish anyway IMHO. I got yellabros!

As for DS 10s idea that someone wanted to play a particular racial heavy, without knowing it's bonuses or slot configuration, but as that suit wasn't available yet, so they train for a completely different role. Lol no ... if you want to play a heavy class, there's onethere ... use it till the others are released and change when they release the others, you shouldn't and most likely won't be able to respec from a differwnt role.

There is no ETA other than its in the pipeline.

As for what CCP does with SP involed it will be up to them.

I would personally like to see the specific skills (amarr heavy and amarr sentinel suits) allowing you to change your race if you need to.

If CCP follows EVE as their example of doing things, I won't expect a respec everytime a new suit comes out. Tbh, I'm not sure if I want it either.

This game is about investing your SP wisely, and living with your decision. CCP gave us one respec already, and will give us another as soon as the skill tree is redone.

Do I think it's cool that they didn't have any other heavy suit for release? No, it sucks!. I wanted to have a choice. They gave us the Amarr frame, and the same ol HMG...well a nerfed version of the HMG. Chances are the other suits coming 4-6 months from now, as the dev said they're not coming "soon enough".

4-6 months is enough time to save up SP to get the race you want. In the mean time, explore other classes, and weapons. Personally, I'm also running Amarr Medium, and saving SP to go into Scrambler Rifles.

Yeah it sucks we didn't get races to choose from, but should we expect a respec everytime something new comes out? No.

That doesn't work because some people who want to be say Gallente Heavy don't have the option now so are doing perhaps one of the medium suits in the meantime. And then they get all the skills focused around that medium suit (weapons and mods and stuff). When the other heavy suits (and light suits) come in there needs to be another optional full respec. Hopefully they can get all the remaining suit frames out in one big push so we're not constantly doing this respec thing.

Of course you're right, but this isn't just any random "new content", these should have been the bare minimum as far as "release' content goes. Or is asking that all classes have an equal amount of choice too much CCP?

I remember the story, but not sure where it was. IRC and with CCP Nothin probably, where it was mentioned that as the racial Heavy suits are not coming soon-soon, they would like to see if people want Type-II or other variants of Amarr.

But then, whole post-Uprising has happened to them, I think they forgot to communicate this issue.

Like I said earlier I don't expect a full respec ever unless there is significant changes to the tree such as redoing all of its bonuses, or layout even to the point you cannot be doing what you where doing previously before.

In this scenario chances are they would probably just refund the heavy only skill since other races don't exist yet.

Had it been all racial suits where available but skill was unified to be split then ccp would likely give automatic levels in the skills that got split.

Just because they add pilot suits, doesnt mean you will get a respec, just because they added commando suits doesnt mean you get a respec. just because they added MAVs and their SCV cousins doens't mean you get a respec. Just because you got a rail rifle doenst mean you got a respec.

If CCP follows EVE as their example of doing things, I won't expect a respec everytime a new suit comes out. Tbh, I'm not sure if I want it either.

This game is about investing your SP wisely, and living with your decision. CCP gave us one respec already, and will give us another as soon as the skill tree is redone.

Do I think it's cool that they didn't have any other heavy suit for release? No, it sucks!. I wanted to have a choice. They gave us the Amarr frame, and the same ol HMG...well a nerfed version of the HMG. Chances are the other suits coming 4-6 months from now, as the dev said they're not coming "soon enough".

4-6 months is enough time to save up SP to get the race you want. In the mean time, explore other classes, and weapons. Personally, I'm also running Amarr Medium, and saving SP to go into Scrambler Rifles.

Yeah it sucks we didn't get races to choose from, but should we expect a respec everytime something new comes out? No.

There's a difference between living with a decision and being able to have something to decide from. The least they could do is offer an optional respec just for your suit when the racial ones do come out.

CCP Remnant proposed to add all the racial variant under Amarr so we can at least get the diversity until they finish the models I guess. This could be great and would reduce the "Soon" period.

I do believe they will have some kind of respec for heavy suit user, so they can respec in the race they really wanted in the first place. Looking forward to use the Minmatar.

Ammar Heavy, and Ammar Sentinel skills should be optionally refunded when the new suits arrive. But ONLY those skills, nothing else.

Respectfully disagree and it would be inconsistent with CCP's prior decisions.

So all the Medium frame users get a respec to use whatever they'd like now that all Med frame races are ready. Yet if you want to be anything other than Ammar Heavy the answer is "Eff you, don't spent your SP For the next two months"? And the same to those who'd prefer Caldari or Ammar Light?

that was mentioned in a thread I had. Don't think anyone wanted it.

People don't want another Amarr variation; heavies seen the bloody same Amarr suit for over a year now. Adding back OLD suits to a new build...yea THAT'S what people would want CCP

People didn't hate the new Amarr suit, they hated the fact that we didn't get a choice in the matter.

No, see my post I made right before yours. It would be inconsistent with how CCP is handling the upcoming skill tree change and the optional respec. It would need to be an optional full refund, not just Amarr Heavy and Amarr Sentinel skills.

But they only went medium because Amarr Heavy doesn't fill the type of heavy role they want . . .

Plus it doesn't even matter, because if CCP is offering a full optional respec for this small skill tree tweak (which I don't agree with either) then they'll surely do one last optional respec when they get the rest of the racial basic suits in.

They do know they can start an Alt on another PSN account right?....I have 3.

For me I'm heavy for the weapons not the suit. Point being I wouldn't give up heavy weapons regardless of what suit I'm forced to work with. IMO if You were heavy in chromosome and skilled the same char to Med in uprising then you walked away from the Heavy role with that character. If you want to roll a Heavy again, start an Alt. But I guess that's just my opinion.