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Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 287	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:25:00 - [31] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Ammar Heavy, and Ammar Sentinel skills should be optionally refunded when the new suits arrive. But ONLY those skills, nothing else. Respectfully disagree and it would be inconsistent with CCP's prior decisions.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 67	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:32:00 - [32] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: Ammar Heavy, and Ammar Sentinel skills should be optionally refunded when the new suits arrive. But ONLY those skills, nothing else. Respectfully disagree and it would be inconsistent with CCP's prior decisions. So all the Medium frame users get a respec to use whatever they'd like now that all Med frame races are ready. Yet if you want to be anything other than Ammar Heavy the answer is "Eff you, don't spent your SP For the next two months"? And the same to those who'd prefer Caldari or Ammar Light?
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 287	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:34:00 - [33] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: Ammar Heavy, and Ammar Sentinel skills should be optionally refunded when the new suits arrive. But ONLY those skills, nothing else. Respectfully disagree and it would be inconsistent with CCP's prior decisions. So all the Medium frame users get a respec to use whatever they'd like now that all Med frame races are ready. Yet if you want to be anything other than Ammar Heavy the answer is "Eff you, don't spent your SP For the next two months"? And the same to those who'd prefer Caldari or Ammar Light? No, see my post I made right before yours. It would be inconsistent with how CCP is handling the upcoming skill tree change and the optional respec. It would need to be an optional full refund, not just Amarr Heavy and Amarr Sentinel skills.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 67	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:38:00 - [34] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: ZiwZih wrote: I remember the story, but not sure where it was. IRC and with CCP Nothin probably, where it was mentioned that as the racial Heavy suits are not coming soon-soon, they would like to see if people want Type-II or other variants of Amarr. But then, whole post-Uprising has happened to them, I think they forgot to communicate this issue. that was mentioned in a thread I had. Don't think anyone wanted it. People don't want another Amarr variation; heavies seen the bloody same Amarr suit for over a year now. Adding back OLD suits to a new build...yea THAT'S what people would want CCP People didn't hate the new Amarr suit, they hated the fact that we didn't get a choice in the matter. I didn't think it was that nobody wanted it, just that we were there to save the HMG from extinction. I too am tired of seeing the same damn fat suit, but if they want to offer Shield variants I'm not going to agrue. Even a little flexibility is better than what we have now. It may not look Caldari but it'd be a step towards that type of build.
Azrael Nightbane Turalyon Plus 9	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:42:00 - [35] - Quote i honestly wouldnt even be upset if they put all the skills and stats in for the other races heavys but just used a placeholder frame untill the real ones are done then put them into the game, and no respec would be needed
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 287	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:44:00 - [36] - Quote What I don't get is they seem to have the theme for the slots, armor/shield amount, and speed for each race and at least a concept of what all the heavies would look like? Why not throw some rendering together and get the other heavies out now then? I understand the visual designs aren't final, but they can always change them later. It's still ridiculous how long we're going to have to wait after release just to get the full line up of basic suits.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 67	Posted - 2013.05.17 22:59:00 - [37] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: Ammar Heavy, and Ammar Sentinel skills should be optionally refunded when the new suits arrive. But ONLY those skills, nothing else. Respectfully disagree and it would be inconsistent with CCP's prior decisions. So all the Medium frame users get a respec to use whatever they'd like now that all Med frame races are ready. Yet if you want to be anything other than Ammar Heavy the answer is "Eff you, don't spent your SP For the next two months"? And the same to those who'd prefer Caldari or Ammar Light? No, see my post I made right before yours. It would be inconsistent with how CCP is handling the upcoming skill tree change and the optional respec. It would need to be an optional full refund, not just Amarr Heavy and Amarr Sentinel skills. And I'd respectfully disagree... Your choices when building a character must be carefully considered and your SP spent wisely. There must be consequences for those choices in order for them to be a significant decision. With constant full respecs your choices will have much less meaning. I am in favor of refunding Heavy frame skills ONLY because we currently have only one choice. Those who skilled Med frame have a full range of options and therefore should work with what they have, or work to skill another race. The weapons coming in the future should not inspire another respec as the SP investment is very low compared to suits. Honestly I strongly disagree with the current optional respec. Those who trained infantry shield extenders to purchase vehicle shield extenders were smart enough to know that it was obviously a glitch and with certainty would be fixed by CCP ASAP. Yet they did it anyway knowing it's a waste of SP. I personally feel they should not get a respec, they knew it was a glitch but they did it anyway for instant gratification. Same with those who skilled Weaponry to V thinking they were getting access to Damage mods, they screwed up and spammed buttons without reading, which should have consequences! Part of one's advantage on the field should come from the intelligence they put into their build. And those who put no thought into their SP allocation should be at a disadvantage because of it.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 288	Posted - 2013.05.17 23:18:00 - [38] - Quote But they only went medium because Amarr Heavy doesn't fill the type of heavy role they want . . . Plus it doesn't even matter, because if CCP is offering a full optional respec for this small skill tree tweak (which I don't agree with either) then they'll surely do one last optional respec when they get the rest of the racial basic suits in.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 67	Posted - 2013.05.17 23:29:00 - [39] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: But they only went medium because Amarr Heavy doesn't fill the type of heavy role they want . . . Plus it doesn't even matter, because if CCP is offering a full optional respec for this small skill tree tweak (which I don't agree with either) then they'll surely do one last optional respec when they get the rest of the racial basic suits in. They do know they can start an Alt on another PSN account right?....I have 3. For me I'm heavy for the weapons not the suit. Point being I wouldn't give up heavy weapons regardless of what suit I'm forced to work with. IMO if You were heavy in chromosome and skilled the same char to Med in uprising then you walked away from the Heavy role with that character. If you want to roll a Heavy again, start an Alt. But I guess that's just my opinion.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 288	Posted - 2013.05.17 23:37:00 - [40] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: But they only went medium because Amarr Heavy doesn't fill the type of heavy role they want . . . Plus it doesn't even matter, because if CCP is offering a full optional respec for this small skill tree tweak (which I don't agree with either) then they'll surely do one last optional respec when they get the rest of the racial basic suits in. They do know they can start an Alt on another PSN account right?....I have 3. For me I'm heavy for the weapons not the suit. Point being I wouldn't give up heavy weapons regardless of what suit I'm forced to work with. IMO if You were heavy in chromosome and skilled the same char to Med in uprising then you walked away from the Heavy role with that character. If you want to roll a Heavy again, start an Alt. But I guess that's just my opinion. But if you already got 5-10 million skill points on this character why create an alt? And you'd still want to play on your character so you can keep getting the active skill points. Would it make you feel better if there was some way to make everyone who opted into this proposed full respec contractually obligated to skill into a heavy suit? I mean I see your concern that you don't want people who have no intentions on ever being a heavy to take advantage of this to switch to the new OP flavor of the month, but it would really suck for all those who would use it to go to the heavy they have been waiting for.



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