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Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:22:00 -
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martinofski wrote:CCP Remnant proposed to add all the racial variant under Amarr so we can at least get the diversity until they finish the models I guess. This could be great and would reduce the "Soon" period.
I do believe they will have some kind of respec for heavy suit user, so they can respec in the race they really wanted in the first place. Looking forward to use the Minmatar.
Actually Remnant proposed the idea of bringing back the Type II Shield variants.
It was a community member who suggested using the same Ammar skin for All of the different racial suits, which IMO there's not a snowballs chance in Hell of that happening.
Ammar Heavy, and Ammar Sentinel skills should be optionally refunded when the new suits arrive. But ONLY those skills, nothing else. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:32:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote: Ammar Heavy, and Ammar Sentinel skills should be optionally refunded when the new suits arrive. But ONLY those skills, nothing else.
Respectfully disagree and it would be inconsistent with CCP's prior decisions.
So all the Medium frame users get a respec to use whatever they'd like now that all Med frame races are ready. Yet if you want to be anything other than Ammar Heavy the answer is "Eff you, don't spent your SP For the next two months"? And the same to those who'd prefer Caldari or Ammar Light? |
Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:38:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:ZiwZih wrote:I remember the story, but not sure where it was. IRC and with CCP Nothin probably, where it was mentioned that as the racial Heavy suits are not coming soon-soon, they would like to see if people want Type-II or other variants of Amarr.
But then, whole post-Uprising has happened to them, I think they forgot to communicate this issue. that was mentioned in a thread I had. Don't think anyone wanted it. People don't want another Amarr variation; heavies seen the bloody same Amarr suit for over a year now. Adding back OLD suits to a new build...yea THAT'S what people would want CCP People didn't hate the new Amarr suit, they hated the fact that we didn't get a choice in the matter.
I didn't think it was that nobody wanted it, just that we were there to save the HMG from extinction.
I too am tired of seeing the same damn fat suit, but if they want to offer Shield variants I'm not going to agrue. Even a little flexibility is better than what we have now. It may not look Caldari but it'd be a step towards that type of build.
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Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:59:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote: Ammar Heavy, and Ammar Sentinel skills should be optionally refunded when the new suits arrive. But ONLY those skills, nothing else.
Respectfully disagree and it would be inconsistent with CCP's prior decisions. So all the Medium frame users get a respec to use whatever they'd like now that all Med frame races are ready. Yet if you want to be anything other than Ammar Heavy the answer is "Eff you, don't spent your SP For the next two months"? And the same to those who'd prefer Caldari or Ammar Light? No, see my post I made right before yours. It would be inconsistent with how CCP is handling the upcoming skill tree change and the optional respec. It would need to be an optional full refund, not just Amarr Heavy and Amarr Sentinel skills.
And I'd respectfully disagree...
Your choices when building a character must be carefully considered and your SP spent wisely. There must be consequences for those choices in order for them to be a significant decision. With constant full respecs your choices will have much less meaning.
I am in favor of refunding Heavy frame skills ONLY because we currently have only one choice. Those who skilled Med frame have a full range of options and therefore should work with what they have, or work to skill another race.
The weapons coming in the future should not inspire another respec as the SP investment is very low compared to suits.
Honestly I strongly disagree with the current optional respec. Those who trained infantry shield extenders to purchase vehicle shield extenders were smart enough to know that it was obviously a glitch and with certainty would be fixed by CCP ASAP. Yet they did it anyway knowing it's a waste of SP. I personally feel they should not get a respec, they knew it was a glitch but they did it anyway for instant gratification. Same with those who skilled Weaponry to V thinking they were getting access to Damage mods, they screwed up and spammed buttons without reading, which should have consequences! Part of one's advantage on the field should come from the intelligence they put into their build. And those who put no thought into their SP allocation should be at a disadvantage because of it.
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Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 23:29:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:But they only went medium because Amarr Heavy doesn't fill the type of heavy role they want . . .
Plus it doesn't even matter, because if CCP is offering a full optional respec for this small skill tree tweak (which I don't agree with either) then they'll surely do one last optional respec when they get the rest of the racial basic suits in.
They do know they can start an Alt on another PSN account right?....I have 3.
For me I'm heavy for the weapons not the suit. Point being I wouldn't give up heavy weapons regardless of what suit I'm forced to work with. IMO if You were heavy in chromosome and skilled the same char to Med in uprising then you walked away from the Heavy role with that character. If you want to roll a Heavy again, start an Alt. But I guess that's just my opinion. |
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