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Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:31:00 -
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I can see why they hinted that the next expansion may be about the fall of the Empires. Now that the clone soldiers are starting to get loose, think about the real horror that is a clone soldier. An immortal, elite soldier who can be cloned to look like anyone, who has no definite features or tells.
No one will be safe, there is no such thing as a suicide mission now. Why would one of us even blink at strapping ourselves down with explosive compound and running into a executive or political building and killing everyone inside only to wake up moments later on a distant planet with no one the wiser at who we are?
The scariness isn't that we can continually fight forever in wars of domination. Its that now there can be extremely skilled and elite operatives who don't care if they live or die.
Heth? Roden? Jamyl? They can't be safe. Any one of us could be formed into someone and look like we should be at the location, we know procedure enough not to stand out. It doesn't matter if we are caught because we can just detonate ourselves.
With the release of Uprising, are you guys ready to bring down everything?
Now taking bids, Starting at 1 Million isk for me to wire myself down with detmix and try to detonate one of the Empire leaders or in a large public place. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1680
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:37:00 -
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Wow immortal terrorists, never thought of that before. The implications are staggering, the only limiting factor to cloned mercenaries now are their own morals and ISK. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
327
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:51:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Wow immortal terrorists, never thought of that before. The implications are staggering, the only limiting factor to cloned mercenaries now are their own morals and ISK.
No kidding, per the information, each clone is $53,000 and thats just the highest rate, the price will only decrease once the economy gets going. Lets say it averages at $40,000 a clone, then $5,000 in elite equipment. Thats just a base cost
For the price of a nice car you can fund a elite veteran killer to murder anywhere from 100 to 10,000 people. Think about dropping a stack of grenades into a ship's plasma reactor, could kill hundreds of thousands for cheap. Overloading a chemical foundry, dumping poisonous chemicals in the air.
Or the one we fear now adays, the merc who just walks into a major city with a suitcase nuke and detonates.
The real question is, how much will the Cartel's pay us. They have alot of isk to burn and the scale of the destruction for the cost is only limited by the imagination.
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Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
292
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:54:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:I can see why they hinted that the next expansion may be about the fall of the Empires. Now that the clone soldiers are starting to get loose, think about the real horror that is a clone soldier. An immortal, elite soldier who can be cloned to look like anyone, who has no definite features or tells.
No one will be safe, there is no such thing as a suicide mission now. Why would one of us even blink at strapping ourselves down with explosive compound and running into a executive or political building and killing everyone inside only to wake up moments later on a distant planet with no one the wiser at who we are?
The scariness isn't that we can continually fight forever in wars of domination. Its that now there can be extremely skilled and elite operatives who don't care if they live or die.
Heth? Roden? Jamyl? They can't be safe. Any one of us could be formed into someone and look like we should be at the location, we know procedure enough not to stand out. It doesn't matter if we are caught because we can just detonate ourselves.
With the release of Uprising, are you guys ready to bring down everything?
Now taking bids, Starting at 1 Million isk for me to wire myself down with detmix and try to detonate one of the Empire leaders or in a large public place.
10 mill to hit a Minmater aid centre. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4177
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:57:00 -
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We're more perfect for black ops than any other soldier out there. How would one catch such terrorist. |
Somin Krais
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:57:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:I can see why they hinted that the next expansion may be about the fall of the Empires. Now that the clone soldiers are starting to get loose, think about the real horror that is a clone soldier. An immortal, elite soldier who can be cloned to look like anyone, who has no definite features or tells.
No one will be safe, there is no such thing as a suicide mission now. Why would one of us even blink at strapping ourselves down with explosive compound and running into a executive or political building and killing everyone inside only to wake up moments later on a distant planet with no one the wiser at who we are?
The scariness isn't that we can continually fight forever in wars of domination. Its that now there can be extremely skilled and elite operatives who don't care if they live or die.
Heth? Roden? Jamyl? They can't be safe. Any one of us could be formed into someone and look like we should be at the location, we know procedure enough not to stand out. It doesn't matter if we are caught because we can just detonate ourselves.
With the release of Uprising, are you guys ready to bring down everything?
Now taking bids, Starting at 1 Million isk for me to wire myself down with detmix and try to detonate one of the Empire leaders or in a large public place. 10 mill to hit a Minmater aid centre.
"I give to you the destiny of Faith, And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13 |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
327
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:00:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote: 10 mill to hit a Minmater aid centre.
Bid starting at 10 million for killing thousands and starving tens of thousands. Do we have any other offers? |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
72
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:04:00 -
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Not everyone is immortal in Eden. I believe our mercs signed some sort of contract to become immortal and work for whoever. Also I would NEVER blow myself up and kill citizens because of war... even if I'm immortal. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3887
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:05:00 -
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I'm willing to take contracts against Amarr civilians. Any tribe want to send a message? |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
527
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:05:00 -
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15 mil to release an airborne pathogen. |
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Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1334
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:09:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Not everyone is immortal in Eden. I believe our mercs signed some sort of contract to become immortal and work for whoever. Also I would NEVER blow myself up and kill citizens because of war... even if I'm immortal.
Ah, but give yourself a few years and thousands of clone jumps and will you still feel any connections to mortals? At some point they will begin to resemble a completely different race of beings that age and die while you do not. |
Somin Krais
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
2
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:09:00 -
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Laheon wrote:15 mil to release an airborne pathogen.
on the Minmatar center? Two birds + one stone = bank |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
525
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:10:00 -
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But we do have big, shiny, alien technology in our skulls. Prolly detectable from a mile away. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4184
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:10:00 -
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Also its only a matter of time before capsuleers get the tech to recruit their own numbers. |
Jane Tyrok
Applied Demolitions Lawyers
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:14:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Not everyone is immortal in Eden. I believe our mercs signed some sort of contract to become immortal and work for whoever. Also I would NEVER blow myself up and kill citizens because of war... even if I'm immortal.
So did capsuleers when they first were created. See what happened there? ;)
Also congrats on being one of the few Mercs with a strong moral compass! We'll see you again after you've died a few thousand times more :D |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative
280
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:19:00 -
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Is it possible to destroy their DNA or memory? Would that not put an end to a merc? |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
755
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:21:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Is it possible to destroy their DNA or memory? Would that not put an end to a merc?
I'm pretty sure Mordu (or whoever) can pull the plug on our ability to jump to the next clone. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
327
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:22:00 -
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You need to get more creative.
How about I learn how to repair a Titan engine, kill a crew member on gallente Titan, take his place, sabotage their jump bridge coordinates and then jump their entire fleet into a star? |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
146
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:25:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Is it possible to destroy their DNA or memory? Would that not put an end to a merc? I'm pretty sure Mordu (or whoever) can pull the plug on our ability to jump to the next clone.
That and we're bound by the whimes of Gene-whatever they're called who move clones for us. All they have to say is "No." and we're boned. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1683
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:31:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:Knarf Black wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Is it possible to destroy their DNA or memory? Would that not put an end to a merc? I'm pretty sure Mordu (or whoever) can pull the plug on our ability to jump to the next clone. That and we're bound by the whimes of Gene-whatever they're called who move clones for us. All they have to say is "No." and we're boned. Mordu's legion doesn't own all of us(I think) and we won't be bound to genolution forever. Face it, it's only a matter of time until our tech ends up in the hands of capsuleers, and then Pandora's box will be well and truly open. |
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
527
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:39:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:But we do have big, shiny, alien technology in our skulls. Prolly detectable from a mile away.
They're implants. Most capsuleers have implants in their head, too. Probably not as detectable as you might think. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative
281
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:40:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Vallud Eadesso wrote:Knarf Black wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Is it possible to destroy their DNA or memory? Would that not put an end to a merc? I'm pretty sure Mordu (or whoever) can pull the plug on our ability to jump to the next clone. That and we're bound by the whimes of Gene-whatever they're called who move clones for us. All they have to say is "No." and we're boned. Mordu's legion doesn't own all of us(I think) and we won't be bound to genolution forever. Face it, it's only a matter of time until our tech ends up in the hands of capsuleers, and then Pandora's box will be well and truly open. They could just EMP entire planets and ships, so that they would no longer have the electricity to create clones. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
329
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:54:00 -
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I mean eve pilots can clone across the universe, what's to stop me from having clones in null and low sec and hitching a ride on a capsule ship as a crew member to Jita then to anywhere. I'd be an invaluable crew member since I can keep learning new things.
And if I fail at my mission there is always tomorrow. And the next day and the next day and the...... |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1688
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:gbghg wrote:Vallud Eadesso wrote:Knarf Black wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Is it possible to destroy their DNA or memory? Would that not put an end to a merc? I'm pretty sure Mordu (or whoever) can pull the plug on our ability to jump to the next clone. That and we're bound by the whimes of Gene-whatever they're called who move clones for us. All they have to say is "No." and we're boned. Mordu's legion doesn't own all of us(I think) and we won't be bound to genolution forever. Face it, it's only a matter of time until our tech ends up in the hands of capsuleers, and then Pandora's box will be well and truly open. They could just EMP entire planets and ships, so that they would no longer have the electricity to create clones. I imagine that the systems would be reinforced to withstand EMP's and that there would be backups in place. How could you stop an independent mercanary corporation with combined Elysian/empyrean support which has CRU's set up all over the cluster? You couldn't, you can't trap them, you can't kill them, no matter your efforts they will doing whatever it is they want to do. |
Baneus Secundi
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:16:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:But we do have big, shiny, alien technology in our skulls. Prolly detectable from a mile away. They're implants. Most capsuleers have implants in their head, too. Probably not as detectable as you might think.
Capsuleers have a bunch of interface ports on their spines, including one in base of the neck above the shoulderline that enable the links to their pods and ships. I suspect we have something similar, but we'll never know until we get out of these suits.
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
304
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:32:00 -
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Did anyone else click into this thread expecting another "bad game" thread? |
Hawkings Greenback
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
33
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:57:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Did anyone else click into this thread expecting another "bad game" thread?
I hope you were surprised then |
Otavio Martins
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
26
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Posted - 2013.05.16 22:10:00 -
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Well...they could try to shutdown the machines that brings us to new clones and destroy the consciousness compatible clone or something like that...
And yes ,i though this was a bad game thread. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
39
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Posted - 2013.05.16 22:20:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:I can see why they hinted that the next expansion may be about the fall of the Empires. Now that the clone soldiers are starting to get loose, think about the real horror that is a clone soldier. An immortal, elite soldier who can be cloned to look like anyone, who has no definite features or tells.
No one will be safe, there is no such thing as a suicide mission now. Why would one of us even blink at strapping ourselves down with explosive compound and running into a executive or political building and killing everyone inside only to wake up moments later on a distant planet with no one the wiser at who we are?
The scariness isn't that we can continually fight forever in wars of domination. Its that now there can be extremely skilled and elite operatives who don't care if they live or die.
Heth? Roden? Jamyl? They can't be safe. Any one of us could be formed into someone and look like we should be at the location, we know procedure enough not to stand out. It doesn't matter if we are caught because we can just detonate ourselves.
With the release of Uprising, are you guys ready to bring down everything?
Now taking bids, Starting at 1 Million isk for me to wire myself down with detmix and try to detonate one of the Empire leaders or in a large public place.
You obviously haven't met CONCORD yet |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4212
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Posted - 2013.05.16 22:22:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/cloned-mercenaries-flood-into-molden-heath/ |
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