Get out of the car and learn to play, son. Stop advocating a play style that hurts the game.

You can throw your science around all day... but in game you can survive a single metal slug that weighs the same as a truck dropped directly on your head from orbit (At least once. Those orbital barrages don't insta-splat)

So damn the game, damn it's future, damn good first impressions and let's just fu*k any kind of first impression for newbies because you won a match in video game?

Short sighted much?

I think the main problem here is that there is no penalty for running someone over.

While I do not think the LAV needs to come to an abrupt stop, it would make sense to roll or bounce the vehicle over the target potentially giving that targets teammates a better window to destroy the vehicle. This of course should be scaled to reflect the size of the victims suit;

scouts have no penalty,
medium frames will 'bounce' or sometimes roll the vehicle with a speed penalty,
heavy frames cause a significant speed penalty and high chance to roll

I think LAVs should be remain capable of OHK'ing everyone when at high speed except a well fit heavy. It would be nice if there was some sort of animation for being knocked down.

Its not just one thing.. its multiple

1 - Hit detection is just funny. Anywhere near the LAV will killyou
2 - AV grenades are feather dusters now
3 - Vehicles are ninjas so you cant see them coming

Impact damage needs to be lower and much more consistent. you can hit someone goign slow and it kills them.

No reason a free LAV shouldnt a OHK with even the first AV nade. u want something better upgrade your own.

Still seeing a lot of use of the word "car" as if this isn't a high-velocity armoured vehicle we're talking about but some standard Honda Civic or something. Let's get one thing clear - LAV's are more comparable to a Humvee, not a "car". And that armour and shield you have? It's nothing like the half-tonne suit that Master Chief wears in Halo.

Now, let's talk some physics. I'll keep it simple. There are a number of forces to consider when taking a hit from a high velocity armoured vehicle, including concussive force, energy transfer, and mass. For those in the know, mass is directly transferably to energy. In fact, for those that know something about how mass works at the subatomic level inside a muon for example, mass is made of energy. So, the energy from the speed of the "car" is not the only energy to consider, but it's mass as well. Now, you are not a heavy guy, and while the shields and armour of your suit may protect you against small arms kinetic impacts and directed energy attacks (to a degree), the LAVs are somewhat more massive than you, and larger than a bullet, so a vehicle of this type is going to be transferring a lot of that energy across a much larger area than a small round travelling at higher speeds might do, which will create a concussive force in your armour that has the potential to not just crush you if the wheels happen to roll over you (which, if the armour's any good, it may actually protect you from direct wheel-crushing, unless it was damaged in the impact, which is probable), but the most likely cause of damage from vehicular impact is going to be that concussive force from the energy transfer that scrambles your internal organs into pulp. In fact, it is not uncommon for victims of vehicular impacts to suffer from ruptured spleens and the like with little to no external visible injury.

So, what have we learned today? That's right. LAVs are not Honda Civics. But in the right circumstances, a Honda Civic could probably kill you too. Like if it was dropped on you by a crane. But that's another physics lesson entirely....

OK, if you are going to drop the "real science" bomb. Then how about being able to activate a hardener very similar to when you drop out of the MCC because i can imagine the forces exerted on your suit would be similar to being hit by a tank. And yet you can brush off and walk away from that.

When jeeps take 5 packed AV grenades, you know there's a problem. It's a LIGHT armoured vehicle. Not the grim reapers combine harvester. I quit after a game vs some scrub in my corp, because after the game I went to the forums, and saw the vehicle buff...

CCP just don't know wtf they're doing.

I personally think there should be no infinite militia LAV. I think there should be at least SOME ISK penalty for spamming LAV, even if it wouldn't drastically impact people with major banks, OR some sort of limit as to how many LAV can even be called per match/at one time. The need for LAV on a battlefield is not so high that there should be an infinite model and it definitely encourages DeathRace 2000 for people on the field. This combined with the higher HP for LAV, making them harder to deal with in a pinch if you dont have at LEAST AV grenades on you (the new model takes 2). Hear hear to the OP

Free LAVs need to go.

OK, if you are going to drop the "real science" bomb. Then how about being able to activate a hardener very similar to when you drop out of the MCC because i can imagine the forces exerted on your suit would be similar to being hit by a tank. And yet you can brush off and walk away from that.

I like to play a game where sometimes, I see how close I can get to the ground before activating the damper in order to negate the impact force. Once, I missed, and trust me, it was very similar to getting hit by a tank. You can "brush off and walk away from that" because that's what dampers are for.

I don't know how you lot are managing to get hit by LAVs in the first place. It's not like if you're running across open ground, you don't check your surroundings. Or maybe it is... who knows.

I saw this thread and thought it had something to do with the rash of mass LAV racing lately... shame, I'd like to have heard more on that.

Your talking about an inertial dampener. Sounds good to me. One problem for you though, you have to activate it, and it isn't going to do a world of good for you when I plow you from behind because you weren't looking, and it can't last for ever in face to face confrontations.

it should damage the vehicle and reduce it's speed to near zero. .

Also back on point, its the overuse and spamming of free LAV that is my main concern.