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Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.06.26 22:55:00 -
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It is a just cause. |
Kelrie Nae'bre
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:12:00 -
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Save our passive skills! |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:49:00 -
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Should still be changed. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.06.30 07:24:00 -
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Agreed |
Melai For'Aiur
Shining Flame
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:35:00 -
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There is a definite disconnect between "every other weapon gets a passive that works for all variants" and "lol... screw Scrambler users by design!" |
Kelrie Nae'bre
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Posted - 2013.06.30 15:35:00 -
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Justice for AMARR! |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:26:00 -
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I feel like all the very good reasons (the fact that the scrambler is singled out, the assault doesn't benefit, other variants like burst will likely not benefit either, and the charge skill itself isn't particularly useful) have already been enumerated, but I wonder if the DEVs would actually look at this again without new commentary. Perhaps I should list every other weapon passive, noting that they all impact all variants? The only reason I didn't do it before is because it's known/obvious... and I'd assume my pointing out the fact is just as effective as making a huge list (and easier to read). |
Talos Alomar
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:27:00 -
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If they change the passive skill CCP should also just reduce the base charge time on the scrambler rifle.
A buff to the cool down speed would be kinda cool, though. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:51:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:If they change the passive skill CCP should also just reduce the base charge time on the scrambler rifle.
A buff to the cool down speed would be kinda cool, though.
Bear in mind, they may be changing the suit passives as well, so Amarr assault might lose its heat bonus in the shuffle (circa 1.3). |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:52:00 -
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My assault scrambler rifle deserves justice |
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Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.02 11:49:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:My assault scrambler rifle deserves justice
1.3's content is supposedly already locked in, so unless this is already part of it, or it can be hotfixed.... can't be put in for awhile. Guess that's true of every issue in Feedback though. |
Jen Gelfling
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 04:46:00 -
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It's interesting that they're cool with having a skill not do anything for a bunch of weapons.... and them being cool with it is Scrambler Rifle specific. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:00:00 -
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It's worth reiterating that's this is likely to hit other variants as well. A burst rifle having a charge doesn't really make sense, for example. So, it seems like this is extending into ONE variant gets a benefit from the passive, ALL the others do not. It's a big middle finger to Scrambler users. |
Kelrie Nae'bre
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Posted - 2013.07.04 08:01:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:It's worth reiterating that's this is likely to hit other variants as well. A burst rifle having a charge doesn't really make sense, for example. So, it seems like this is extending into ONE variant gets a benefit from the passive, ALL the others do not. It's a big middle finger to Scrambler users.
I dunno... you could conceivably have a charge-able breach rifle with slow semi-auto fire. Though it'd probably make more sense to throttle the firerate and remove the charge.
As it stands, you'd expect Assault, Burst, and Breach all to be lacking a charge function. So it does seem to be an F U specifically to Scrambler users. "You guys don't deserve a passive that works on all your guns... we reserve those for every other weapon user in the game... haha" |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.05 06:42:00 -
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Kelrie Nae'bre wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:It's worth reiterating that's this is likely to hit other variants as well. A burst rifle having a charge doesn't really make sense, for example. So, it seems like this is extending into ONE variant gets a benefit from the passive, ALL the others do not. It's a big middle finger to Scrambler users. I dunno... you could conceivably have a charge-able breach rifle with slow semi-auto fire. Though it'd probably make more sense to throttle the firerate and remove the charge. As it stands, you'd expect Assault, Burst, and Breach all to be lacking a charge function. So it does seem to be an F U specifically to Scrambler users. "You guys don't deserve a passive that works on all your guns... we reserve those for every other weapon user in the game... haha"
That's a bit melodramatic, but the gist of the OP is that the Scrambler is the only weapon with a variant specific passive I guess. I think it's more likely to be an oversight than a slight, even with the Dev response. Surely, they can see that it's odd to single out a weapon type for a passive that does nothing for 3 out of 4 variants (assuming breach, assault, and burst I guess). |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.07 04:13:00 -
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Added this to the first post:
POINT:
Assault Rifle: 5% reduction to AR kick per level
Laser Rifle: 5% to rifle cooldown per level
Mass Driver: 5% to blast radius per level
Plasma Cannon: 5% reduction to PC charge time per level
Shotgun: 3% reduction to shotgun spread per level
Sniper: 5% reduction to scope sway per level
Swarm Launcher: 10% clip size per level
Flaylock: 5% to pistol blast radius per level
Nova Knife: 5% reduction to Nova Charge time per level
Scrambler Pistol: +1 clip size per level
SMG: 5% reduction to SMG kick per level
HMG: 3% reduction to HMG heat per level
Forge: 5% reduction to Forge Charge time per level
What do all of these skills have in common? THEY WORK FOR EVERY FRIGGIN VERSION OF THE WEAPON, UNLIKE THE SCRAMBLER.
Since they seem unaware that they're screwing over a specific weapon type for giggles. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.07 04:24:00 -
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Yup +1 to Main post.
Thats just ********.
Also this:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92511&find=unread |
BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.07.07 04:50:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:If they change the passive skill CCP should also just reduce the base charge time on the scrambler rifle.
A buff to the cool down speed would be kinda cool, though. Bear in mind, they may be changing the suit passives as well, so Amarr assault might lose its heat bonus in the shuffle (circa 1.3).
i hope it becomes +5% shield and armor efficiency per level. that would be awesome |
Jen Gelfling
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.07 10:17:00 -
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The weapon list drives the point home. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:17:00 -
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Jen Gelfling wrote:The weapon list drives the point home.
It's all about basic fairness. |
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Kelrie Nae'bre
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Posted - 2013.07.10 03:34:00 -
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Justice for the Amarr. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.10 07:52:00 -
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Kelrie Nae'bre wrote:Justice for the Amarr.
Justice for the Scrambler and laser-tech anyway. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:25:00 -
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This is still ridiculous on CCP's part. |
Dehlia Metii
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:57:00 -
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If the DEVs claim they f'd over this weapon "by design", then there's no realistic hope of "waiting for a change" in a future patch unless they look at or address this again, right? |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:55:00 -
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Hopefully it will be looked at in Uprising 3. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.07.15 12:44:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:Hopefully it will be looked at in Uprising 3.
Since 3 is already submitted, I guess they already know if it's changed there. |
Kelrie Nae'bre
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Posted - 2013.07.16 10:52:00 -
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They're really not good at the whole "communication" thing. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.07.16 13:23:00 -
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By design. . . the actual **** is this **** :| |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 06:21:00 -
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I'd love a cooldown speed bonus |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:14:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I'd love a cooldown speed bonus
Especially if it also reduced the jam duration. |
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