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Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 240	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:13:00 - [1] - Quote I'm hearing people all over the place assume it's coming on May 14th. But to quote for the horses mouth, Quote: Many of these issues will be addressed via hotfixes before the 14th, and throughout the month of May. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594&find=unread Maybe this will stay on the first page long enough for people to see and not start raging if it doesn't happen exactly on May 14th.
VLIGHT5 Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 85	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:17:00 - [2] - Quote If they don't allow us to respec on the 14th then they're stupid.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Orion Empire 119	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:17:00 - [3] - Quote Aye, they are only doing the Respec after they also change up the skill points again. One of the members CPM stated that it might be within the month. I highly doubt that it will be out in even the next 5 days.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 240	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:20:00 - [4] - Quote VLIGHT5 wrote: If they don't allow us to respec on the 14th then they're making a stupid decision. You realize the skill tree adjustment may also not be coming on May 14th. When the skill tree adjustment comes, the optional respec comes. All we have been told is it will come in May.
VLIGHT5 Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 85	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:21:00 - [5] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: VLIGHT5 wrote: If they don't allow us to respec on the 14th then they're making a stupid decision. You realize the skill tree adjustment may also not be coming on May 14th. When the skill tree adjustment comes, the optional respec comes. All we have been told is it will come in May. I know that. I'm just saying it's stupid for them not to allow players a fresh start on launch day. Not everybody who wants a respec does so because they're upset with the current skill system.
JuJu Man Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:23:00 - [6] - Quote Quote: Thanks for your email.We are currently looking to assist players globally regarding skill issues in the coming days unfortunately at this moment in time we are unable to provide you further information on the re-spec process.Once the 'Skill' update has been deployed., as mentioned in the Forum Post linked below, you will be able to petition us requesting for the optional re-spec to be applied to your character/account.https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594&find=unreadIn the meantime I would recommend you to keep an eye on the DUST 514 Forums for further information about it.I apologise again for the inconvenience.Please note that we will now close this petition to free up the slot for you but should you have any other issue please do not hesitate to petition us again. Reply I got after asking about the respec...
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 240	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:27:00 - [7] - Quote VLIGHT5 wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: VLIGHT5 wrote: If they don't allow us to respec on the 14th then they're making a stupid decision. You realize the skill tree adjustment may also not be coming on May 14th. When the skill tree adjustment comes, the optional respec comes. All we have been told is it will come in May. I know that. I'm just saying it's stupid for them not to allow players a fresh start on launch day. Not everybody who wants a respec does so because they're upset with the current skill system. Well you should also then realize that they were never planning to have this optional respec, but since several people are upset with the changes to the skill system they are giving it to everyone. So if you are not upset with the skill system but want a respec you are lucking out.
Calroon DeVil Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 15	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:42:00 - [8] - Quote No, they ****** up - yet again - , is why. Can't wait for the next rebalance fail come tomorrow.
crazy space 1 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1111	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:43:00 - [9] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: VLIGHT5 wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: VLIGHT5 wrote: If they don't allow us to respec on the 14th then they're making a stupid decision. You realize the skill tree adjustment may also not be coming on May 14th. When the skill tree adjustment comes, the optional respec comes. All we have been told is it will come in May. I know that. I'm just saying it's stupid for them not to allow players a fresh start on launch day. Not everybody who wants a respec does so because they're upset with the current skill system. Well you should also then realize that they were never planning to have this optional respec, but since several people are upset with the changes to the skill system they are giving it to everyone. So if you are not upset with the skill system but want a respec you are lucking out. So release the game with the issue still at hand?
Liner ReXiandra Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 31	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:46:00 - [10] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: So release the game with the issue still at hand? They're also releasing the game with perhaps a third of the content, so why not?

Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 240	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:47:00 - [11] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: So release the game with the issue still at hand? Release was already planned long before this second respec was decided upon. Guess they don't really think it's a big enough issue to delay the official release for. But then again what exactly does it mean for Dust to officially release? It's been released since it went open beta in January, this is just more of a ceremonial thing than a traditional game release.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 241	Posted - 2013.05.13 13:56:00 - [12] - Quote So to keep this on first page for awhile for others to see and prevent more raging tomorrow, lets throw a bit of discussion in. What do you think they will lower the specialized suit multiplier to? Right now it is basically a 16x skill (6x from basic, 10x from specialization). If I recall they wanted to bring it back down similar to Chromosome levels, so what if the 10x became a 4x? That would make it like a 10x skill (6x + 4x) which is pretty similar to the 8x from Chromosome. I wouldn't find it conflicting that the specializatin is a cheaper skill than the general frame since that is already a prerequisite. I mean, it takes on average 4 years to get an undergraduate degree but only an additional 2 to get a Masters. So yeah, I'm going to place my guess at making it a combined 10x skill, but that may be pushing it.
Robert Lanate Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 13:57:00 - [13] - Quote Didnt we had one like few days ago
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 241	Posted - 2013.05.13 13:59:00 - [14] - Quote Robert Lanate wrote: Didnt we had one like few days ago Big changes to the skill tree on on the way though, so yeah not exactly a roll your eyes moment.
VulvaOfTheYeast Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:04:00 - [15] - Quote Optional Re-Spec will indeed come tomorrow. You think CCP is stupid or something? Bad press from beta testers is not what they need on launch day. This has been a Certified Eyeroll Post.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:09:00 - [16] - Quote Didnt they just say in a few different threads that it wont come tomorrow. I personally think that is a good move because it stops the people who just speed run applying their points from rspeccing tomorrow and then crying for another respec after trying out the new gear in 2-3 matches. Try out new stuff tomorrow and then plan and apply correctly when the respec comes, which is hopefully in a week or two.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 242	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:10:00 - [17] - Quote VulvaOfTheYeast wrote: Optional Re-Spec will indeed come tomorrow. You think CCP is stupid or something? Bad press from beta testers is not what they need on launch day. This has been a Certified Eyeroll Post. Have fun raging tomorrow then!
VulvaOfTheYeast Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:19:00 - [18] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: VulvaOfTheYeast wrote: Optional Re-Spec will indeed come tomorrow. You think CCP is stupid or something? Bad press from beta testers is not what they need on launch day. This has been a Certified Eyeroll Post. Have fun raging tomorrow then! If it will cause CCP bad press and lose them potential customers in this game, I'll rage from here to GameFaqs to NeoGAF to Facebook to EW.com. This has been a Certified Raspberry Post
Lowkiie KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:44:00 - [19] - Quote VLIGHT5 wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: VLIGHT5 wrote: If they don't allow us to respec on the 14th then they're making a stupid decision. You realize the skill tree adjustment may also not be coming on May 14th. When the skill tree adjustment comes, the optional respec comes. All we have been told is it will come in May. I know that. I'm just saying it's stupid for them not to allow players a fresh start on launch day. Not everybody who wants a respec does so because they're upset with the current skill system.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 225	Posted - 2013.05.13 16:00:00 - [20] - Quote Bumpenstein's monster

ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 125	Posted - 2013.05.13 16:15:00 - [21] - Quote They need to fix the skill tree first, before offering this respec. Im pretty sure they've already stated they are hoping to have the skill tree fixed 'within the month' and not by tomorrow.
VulvaOfTheYeast Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:16:00 - [22] - Quote Cupcakes.
Deadeye Dic Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 46	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:31:00 - [23] - Quote My understanding is, and I might be wrong, is that CCP is only going to give back the SP difference once they adjust the skill trees. IE if you spent 500 SP in a skill before the fix and it now costs 400 SP for the same skill, then you'll get a 100 SP refund.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 256	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:34:00 - [24] - Quote Deadeye Dic wrote: My understanding is, and I might be wrong, is that CCP is only going to give back the SP difference once they adjust the skill trees. IE if you spent 500 SP in a skill before the fix and it now costs 400 SP for the same skill, then you'll get a 100 SP refund. Yes, that is what is going to happen for everyone automatically. However, if you submit a ticket you will get a 100% refund of everything like on May 6th.
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 215	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:35:00 - [25] - Quote Deadeye Dic wrote: My understanding is, and I might be wrong, is that CCP is only going to give back the SP difference once they adjust the skill trees. IE if you spent 500 SP in a skill before the fix and it now costs 400 SP for the same skill, then you'll get a 100 SP refund. Quote: Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements for specializations, which received a massive rework in Uprising along with the new node based visualization of the tech tree. Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occurs, in case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 244	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:39:00 - [26] - Quote Hmm. It would seem to me that asking people to submit tickets for a respec creates a lot of extra work for themselves. They should just respec everyone and be done with it.
Infekti0n One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative 27	Posted - 2013.05.13 21:02:00 - [27] - Quote I hate how vague they always are with stuff, its incredible...
00010100 01100010 Commando Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.05.13 21:21:00 - [28] - Quote may i ask who the game masters are that we need to request the respec from so i know who to petition plz and ty.
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 26	Posted - 2013.05.13 21:31:00 - [29] - Quote Infekti0n wrote: I hate how vague they always are with stuff, its incredible... I'm convinced they generally have no idea what they are doing until the moment they do it. That's why they're always so vague, and everything they do seems halfassed and unplanned. They just throw spaghetti at the wall and hope it sticks.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 94	Posted - 2013.05.13 21:39:00 - [30] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: I'm hearing people all over the place assume it's coming on May 14th. But to quote for the horses mouth, Quote: Many of these issues will be addressed via hotfixes before the 14th, and throughout the month of May. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594&find=unread Maybe this will stay on the first page long enough for people to see and not start raging if it doesn't happen exactly on May 14th. you are severely optimistic, sir.

Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 258	Posted - 2013.05.13 21:40:00 - [31] - Quote 00010100 01100010 wrote: may i ask who the game masters are that we need to request the respec from so i know who to petition plz and ty. Just go to Dust514.com, sign in and hit the submit a ticket button once the new skill tree is out.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 62	Posted - 2013.05.13 22:27:00 - [32] - Quote Maybe it's just me but doesn't the server message imply a respec for all? Doesn't say on the 14th, but it does imply that all will have the option to respec without petitioning.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 258	Posted - 2013.05.13 22:38:00 - [33] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Maybe it's just me but doesn't the server message imply a respec for all? Doesn't say on the 14th, but it does imply that all will have the option to respec without petitioning. All will get the SP refunded that is no longer needed for certain skills, since some skills are lowering their multiplier. But if you want to respec you need to submit a ticket, which is available to everyone. Server message is pretty clear.
Nirwanda Vaughns Planetary Response Organisation 45	Posted - 2013.05.13 22:38:00 - [34] - Quote reconsidering a small respec. just to get into proto logi and perhaps drop a level of assault rifle. s*** happens but thats price you pay of being an awesome logi lol
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 62	Posted - 2013.05.13 23:02:00 - [35] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: Maybe it's just me but doesn't the server message imply a respec for all? Doesn't say on the 14th, but it does imply that all will have the option to respec without petitioning. All will get the SP refunded that is no longer needed for certain skills, since some skills are lowering their multiplier. But if you want to respec you need to submit a ticket, which is available to everyone. Server message is pretty clear. I understand that they are changing some skill multipliers and we will be refunded any excess SP from those skills. You say the server message is pretty clear huh? And not in contradiction to what was said in the relative thread from CCP? Here is exactly what the server message currently says. "Dear players, after a few initial days of uprising and your constructive feedback. We will be performing changes to the existing skill progression system, provide you with optional skill reallocation, and continue working on improving stability and performance issues. For full details regarding upcoming changes to uprising, please visit announcements section over at http://forums.dust514.com/" To me this implies the respec will be an available option for all regardless of petitioning. I've been saving my SP for Scrambler rifles on an Alt, wish I would've known there would be another optional respec and I could've been using decent AR's instead of jacking around with a damn militia on an ADV Ammar Med.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 259	Posted - 2013.05.13 23:13:00 - [36] - Quote CCP didn't even know they were going to do another optional respec when Uprising launched on May 6th. They probably thought that was the last one until they got the rest of the heavies and lights in the game. We're only getting another respec so soon because enough people complained that 10x for specialized suits is way too darn much.
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 905	Posted - 2013.05.13 23:24:00 - [37] - Quote This respec will not happen on the 14th. They are planning on revamping the skill tree and reducing the skill costs of things, etc. and that probably won't be out until a little later in the month. That is will the optional respec will be available. Players who don't opt in but trained skills which had their modifiers reduced will simply be refunded ONLY the difference in skillpoints resulting from the changed skills costing less SP. Once the skill tree is updated, you'll be able to send an email to [email protected] asking for the respec. Either way, people are going to have a ton of spare SP on that day. That day just won't be the 14th.
Nirwanda Vaughns Planetary Response Organisation 45	Posted - 2013.05.13 23:37:00 - [38] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: [Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements for specializations, which received a massive rework in Uprising along with the new node based visualization of the tech tree. Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occurs, in case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again. [/quote] to me sounds like we aint getting jack for our sever/raven/valor suits but we're given a respec in order to skill into those suits instead of ccp refunding the item to but somehting else. personally i think there should be a sever/raven/valor themed suit for all races so we can get the paintjob/bpo for the suit despite our race choices. admittedly am a bit pissed i paid 20k aurum each for raven and sever suits back when i could use em but atm i'm concentrating on gallente as the suits offer the skill bonus i require and i'd like to get my aurum back or at least a trade for a sever gallente logi and raven gallente assault. it'd probs be the easiest way out of it
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Orion Empire 122	Posted - 2013.05.13 23:49:00 - [39] - Quote The optional respec happening, say, two weeks after the game launches is not a bad idea for them. Let's assume that tomorrow there is an influx of people (personally, I don't but it but let's assume) joining the game. It gives them two weeks to putz around and realize how the game works. After that, they can use the respec option that will be available. Honestly, a respec option that can be utilized ONCE within a three week period of starting your account would be a great edition. Gives new players a chance to see how the game works without royally screwing themselves. 3 weeks amounts to 1,075,200 SP (not counting the starting 500k) if they cap out. Making it have to be done within 3 weeks of the account starts stops vets from abusing it as a vet would already know what they want to do and doesn't mean that new players have a free respec over vets. Be well.


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