At least we can use the points we spent to make shield tanks and get the caldari logi lav instead. That thing is a beast!

At least we can use the points we spent to make shield tanks and get the caldari logi lav instead. That thing is a beast!

Strange, I saw a thread yesterday which said that a rumour tanks would go extinct and shield tanks reigned supreme due to missile turrets.

don't make me laugh, killed once in 6 months by them, and that was a mislle installation shooting the LAV behind me

Tanks need to be buffed to the point that we start seeing "ZOMG! Nerf Tanks! My MILITIA Swarms can't KIll them Solo!" threads again.

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your input. Here are some quick points:
- I'm looking at adjusting PG and CPU values, however this is a bit of a big effort so keep that in mind since this will also include re-evaluating PG/CPU costs of all vehicle modules as well and this of course will require an extensive amount of testing.
- we are aware of the issues with turrets. this is going to require some code support and some further feature development to get that out there for you. We're looking at what would be a reasonable deployment plan for you on our end since streaming content (meshes, value changes) is a completely different thing than uploading code changes.
- The Gallente HAVs are intentionally quicker and nimbler than the Caldari HAVs as this is a racial characteristic between the two races. Initially, this was the wrong way around because of an optimization to the physics wheel configuration on these HAVs. Don't forget, at the end of the day that armor tanking is going to reduce the propulsion of an HAV, something which the Gallente HAV is more aligned to.

How about some dropship love?

You must be new here.

Hi guys,


- we are aware of the issues with turrets. this is going to require some code support and some further feature development to get that out there for you. We're looking at what would be a reasonable deployment plan for you on our end since streaming content (meshes, value changes) is a completely different thing than uploading code changes.

tanks struggle with fitting STANDARD mods, and at max skills I might add.

No no. It was a joke. = )

Well, more like a tear filled, hopeful plea.

Getting straight to the point. Caldari tanks have been heavily nerfed. With uprising came the speed swap between armor and shield, the removal of the 5% increase in powergrid / level, and no longer being able to aim up. Armor tanks have a higher powergrid, but lower cpu, except they can still increase the cpu by 5% per level. This along with the speed they now have creates a huge imbalence between the two races,. By removeing the pg expansion skill, Caldari vehicles are limited in their options

Bring back 5% increase to maximum vehicle powergrid, and return speeds to original state, please and thank you,
p.s the graphics look awesome.

I think Gallente Armor tanks should keep their speed so they can effectively use Armor plates as effectively as Shield Tanks can use Shield Extenders.

CCP must be confused... shield HAVs are meant to be slower the armor HAVs yet adding armor =slower. so this is some sortof insult to shield HAVs, thanks. i knew it was weird that armor was faster then shield and there it is.
i guess now it goes to who will do the test as the last people who did it couldn't figure out there was a aim bug which is kindof important in a fps. so im waiting for the next set of major bugs to come.

anything vehicle related and NOT lav needs fixing

(coming from a FGing heavy, that says a LOT)

There seems to be quite a bit of disconnect between the devs' intended use by design and our practical use in real time. Look at any recent Mass Driver thread and you'll see what I'm talking about.


As a LAV enthusiast, I agree that armor/shields are right where they need to be, but the Logi ones still need their repair tool programmed properly and the scouts need more torque and a built in passive scanner.

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your input. Here are some quick points:
- I'm looking at adjusting PG and CPU values, however this is a bit of a big effort so keep that in mind since this will also include re-evaluating PG/CPU costs of all vehicle modules as well and this of course will require an extensive amount of testing.
- we are aware of the issues with turrets. this is going to require some code support and some further feature development to get that out there for you. We're looking at what would be a reasonable deployment plan for you on our end since streaming content (meshes, value changes) is a completely different thing than uploading code changes.
- The Gallente HAVs are intentionally quicker and nimbler than the Caldari HAVs as this is a racial characteristic between the two races. Initially, this was the wrong way around because of an optimization to the physics wheel configuration on these HAVs. Don't forget, at the end of the day that armor tanking is going to reduce the propulsion of an HAV, something which the Gallente HAV is more aligned to.

i know MD were fine last build, now its just LOL. and the LLAV tool is clumsy.
but if gallente was meant to be the fastest then they messed up the scout speeds because it does not follow their master plan there. as well with all dropsuits and all other vehicles so the bias here, its seems just totally stupid wrong.

these speed changes, the pg lies are stuff I wanted to see in the patch notes that were left out.. wonder why.

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your input. Here are some quick points:
- I'm looking at adjusting PG and CPU values, however this is a bit of a big effort so keep that in mind since this will also include re-evaluating PG/CPU costs of all vehicle modules as well and this of course will require an extensive amount of testing.
- we are aware of the issues with turrets. this is going to require some code support and some further feature development to get that out there for you. We're looking at what would be a reasonable deployment plan for you on our end since streaming content (meshes, value changes) is a completely different thing than uploading code changes.
- The Gallente HAVs are intentionally quicker and nimbler than the Caldari HAVs as this is a racial characteristic between the two races. Initially, this was the wrong way around because of an optimization to the physics wheel configuration on these HAVs. Don't forget, at the end of the day that armor tanking is going to reduce the propulsion of an HAV, something which the Gallente HAV is more aligned to.

Hi guys,

(Snip)

- The Gallente HAVs are intentionally quicker and nimbler than the Caldari HAVs as this is a racial characteristic between the two races. Initially, this was the wrong way around because of an optimization to the physics wheel configuration on these HAVs. Don't forget, at the end of the day that armor tanking is going to reduce the propulsion of an HAV, something which the Gallente HAV is more aligned to.

:)

Just a little extension on this - we are looking at re-balancing AV as well, which does include the damage output of AV grenades.

:)

Just a little extension on this - we are looking at re-balancing AV as well, which does include the damage output of AV grenades.

:)

Just a little extension on this - we are looking at re-balancing AV as well, which does include the damage output of AV grenades.

Caldari tanks now have around 76km/hr, while gallente now have around 96km/hr. I think it was an accidental swaping of the speeds, but regaurdless should be fixed.

YOU GUYS STILL LOOKING?

They did this because the shield tank does not get a speed reduction from its extenders but......the armor tanks get a speed reduction from there extenders.

And they have done jack **** yet

I suppose that was the point in reviving it.

except they can't fit the bloody modules like they could in eve......so it kinda defeats the purpose.

overall, when properly tanked, shield is SUPPOSED to be faster than armor due to plates slowing the tank down.....well, unless syou want a fast splat tank

However, Caldari assets are usually slower than Gallente assets because they prioritize hitting targets at range rather than getting up close, which the Gallente HAVE to do because their weapons have such short range.

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your input. Here are some quick points:
- I'm looking at adjusting PG and CPU values, however this is a bit of a big effort so keep that in mind since this will also include re-evaluating PG/CPU costs of all vehicle modules as well and this of course will require an extensive amount of testing.
- we are aware of the issues with turrets. this is going to require some code support and some further feature development to get that out there for you. We're looking at what would be a reasonable deployment plan for you on our end since streaming content (meshes, value changes) is a completely different thing than uploading code changes.
- The Gallente HAVs are intentionally quicker and nimbler than the Caldari HAVs as this is a racial characteristic between the two races. Initially, this was the wrong way around because of an optimization to the physics wheel configuration on these HAVs. Don't forget, at the end of the day that armor tanking is going to reduce the propulsion of an HAV, something which the Gallente HAV is more aligned to.