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Psychotic Shooter
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:16:00 -
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I want to make this for all those knifers that enjoy bringing a knife to a gun fight
I enjoy stabbing people in the back of the head |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:28:00 -
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Sooo many more knife kills this build. :D |
SkIlL Sh0oTeR
The Exemplars Gentlemen's Agreement
51
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:33:00 -
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only real men carry nova knives. |
Magnus the Wolf
The Snack Pack
1
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:34:00 -
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A sign that CCP balanced them well. I have fun with them from time to time. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
211
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:34:00 -
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I wonder how much damage a Proto Minmatar Scout can do with the Ishukone knives. Then maybe with a complex sidearm modifier. I imagine they'd be one hit killing even some of the beefier enemies. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:39:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:I wonder how much damage a Proto Minmatar Scout can do with the Ishukone knives. Then maybe with a complex sidearm modifier. I imagine they'd be one hit killing even some of the beefier enemies. I thought about doing this. It sounds like lots of fun. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2263
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:41:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Sooo many more knife kills this build. :D
I saw you in one match earlier today. Because of you, my squad lost two clones to your knives. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:44:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DigiOps wrote:Sooo many more knife kills this build. :D I saw you in one match earlier today. Because of you, my squad lost two clones to your knives. Just two? I must have ran into the rest of the team more often, then. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
698
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Posted - 2013.05.12 01:03:00 -
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Can't wait until Winmatar get their own variation of them. Like dual tonfa that create explosions on impact or something to go with their favoring of kinetic damage. |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
61
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Posted - 2013.05.12 01:07:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Can't wait until Winmatar get their own variation of them. Like dual tonfa that create explosions on impact or something to go with their favoring of kinetic damage. Sounds like Monster Hunter fire attribute. |
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Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
211
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Posted - 2013.05.12 01:27:00 -
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Ok so I did the math. Ishukone Nova Knives do 200.0 base damage. Add 25% from a proto Minmatar Scout and that's 250. Add 10% from a complex sidearm mod (assuming it is then 35% increase) it is then 270. Add 15% from Nova Knife Proficiency and they do 300.
I wasn't sure if this is the charged up damage or not, but then I looked at the scouts default melee damage which is 80. Then I looked at the listed damage on the standard nova knives which is 90. So yeah, this is damage done without even charging them. 300 just for tapping it! Anyone know how much charging it up increases the damage? These things are deadly! |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
850
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Posted - 2013.05.12 01:39:00 -
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been slaying with the knives for a while now this build, been a lot of fun. scouts, assault, heavies....they all go down the same
btw, would love to shank it up with a fellow true merc... hit me up if anyone wants a knife squad |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2266
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Posted - 2013.05.12 02:37:00 -
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@Delirium
I just did some more testing and estimated based on number of kills with charged attacks in relation to total damage dealt in the end-of-match stats to be between 560 and 600 HP with zn-28 knives. Although earlier tests hinted at a much higher number of about 748 HP with the charge. Keep in mind these tests were without any passive bonuses to the knives without damage mods.
Note: Nova knives do double damage. SP the base stat of 200 is actually 400. |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
394
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Posted - 2013.05.12 02:48:00 -
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I have an example for you guys...
My caldari logi
Shields 680 Armor 380
Radar from pfbhz one hit me with full health in a mini proto with proto knives....
I was angry then skilled into them myself now I will be respecing into mini proto knives and shotty. |
First Prophet
UItramarine Corp
77
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Posted - 2013.05.12 02:51:00 -
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Loving the new knives. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative
244
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Posted - 2013.05.12 03:21:00 -
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Love them. Now if they would just give me a way to hit moving people... Sigh. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
212
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Posted - 2013.05.12 03:25:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Love them. Now if they would just give me a way to hit moving people... Sigh. Is your controller broken? |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
212
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Posted - 2013.05.12 03:50:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Delirium
I just did some more testing and estimated based on number of kills with charged attacks in relation to total damage dealt in the end-of-match stats to be between 560 and 600 HP with zn-28 knives. Although earlier tests hinted at a much higher number of about 748 HP with the charge. Keep in mind these tests were without any passive bonuses to the knives without damage mods.
Note: Nova knives do double damage. So the base stat of 200 is actually 400 for the Ishukone knives without the charge.
Edit: earlier tests were conducted while observing the HP stats that show up on players when you aim at them. Oh wait, so that 300 I estimated is with just one knife? So that would be about 600 base damage without charging if you fully max it out with the Minmatar scout, sidearm modifier, and proficiency skill? That is crazy!
I wonder how the other racial knives are going to work. Nova knives are Caldari, at fan fest they showed images of the other 3. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2266
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Love them. Now if they would just give me a way to hit moving people... Sigh.
The angle in which you can attack has increased. They no longer need to be exactly in front on order to hit them. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2267
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:26:00 -
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So, how long do you want to bet it will be before some heavy players start posting Nerf-Novas threads? |
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InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
40
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:55:00 -
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Nova Knives need to be able to be charged and used when sprinting. |
Dante Dragonsguard
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2013.05.12 05:05:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:So, how long do you want to bet it will be before some heavy players start posting Nerf-Novas threads?
Im a Heavy and i think they are awesome. Anyone who gives up a ranged weapon for a melee should deserve that amount of damage plus they have to get into your face so it makes it tricky some times. You won't see a nerf nova knives from many heavies i think. Other frame suits...idk maybe? Heavies don't have much nerf rage. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
850
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Posted - 2013.05.12 05:23:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:So, how long do you want to bet it will be before some heavy players start posting Nerf-Novas threads?
...in about 5 more kills....4...... |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Heretic Initiative
246
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Posted - 2013.05.12 06:14:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Love them. Now if they would just give me a way to hit moving people... Sigh. The angle in which you can attack has increased. They no longer need to be exactly in front on order to hit them. Not what I am saying. I am saying that I am constantly going around the map and end up chasing some guy. I think I am finally close enough to hit 'em, I swing hit nothing but air and I get shot in the face by a backward running assault because they here,mr miss the swing. I have done it though, usually it is pure luck after mashing the button. We need to stop having to stop and pause before swinging. I can still go positive more often than not, though, it feels like it is way more luck based than skill based. I.E. I get at least 1-2 kills a game by mashing the R1 button when I get behind a group. There needs to be away to hit people you are chasing down, without having to wait for them to slowdon/stop.
I am using the Minmatar scoit scout with a kinetic catalyzer and Ishukone Nova Knives. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
363
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Posted - 2013.05.12 06:17:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Can't wait until Winmatar Nova Chainsaw. I haven't seen many chainsaws in FPS games recently. Dust should bring it back. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2268
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Posted - 2013.05.12 06:18:00 -
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@deadly
In that case, I never understood how a merc is able to run backwards at the same speed he runs forward. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
363
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Posted - 2013.05.12 06:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I never understood how a merc is able to run backwards at the same speed he runs forward. When there's a guy running at him with a Nova Chainsaw. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.05.12 07:29:00 -
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Minmatar Explosive Ballistic Knife
Kill me now. |
Radar R4D-47
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
17
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Posted - 2013.05.12 07:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Love them. Now if they would just give me a way to hit moving people... Sigh. The angle in which you can attack has increased. They no longer need to be exactly in front on order to hit them. Not what I am saying. I am saying that I am constantly going around the map and end up chasing some guy. I think I am finally close enough to hit 'em, I swing hit nothing but air and I get shot in the face by a backward running assault because they here,mr miss the swing. I have done it though, usually it is pure luck after mashing the button. We need to stop having to stop and pause before swinging. I can still go positive more often than not, though, it feels like it is way more luck based than skill based. I.E. I get at least 1-2 kills a game by mashing the R1 button when I get behind a group. There needs to be away to hit people you are chasing down, without having to wait for them to slowdon/stop. I am using the Minmatar scoit scout with a kinetic catalyzer and Ishukone Nova Knives.
Your Doing it wrong.
@insidiousN nova knifes do not need to be able to run with a charge because i think ive got the real calculations off these CCP decided that the base damage is uncharged fully charge off of my experience is not double but 3x so my ishakones be4 skills and mods do 600 damage a swing that on itself could be considered Op but you give them the ability to sprint with a charge and they become op. CCP do not listen to these blasphemers you have given me my dream do not shatter it with these wanna b knifers complaining they cant sprint with a charge i love them the way they are. |
Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers EoN.
59
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Posted - 2013.05.12 07:59:00 -
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Don't kill Radar's dream. Love watching these scouts run around with knives. I think we should be celebrating CCP's ability to make a melee weapon viable in this game without breaking it. One of the many things they got right in this build(overshadowed by a few glaring mistakes) |
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