If you were a competitive gamer, you would go for mouse and keyboard. You already know its the better option, and that it raises the skill mountain and possibilities for good gameplay quite drastically.

You are clearly not a competitive gamer as you have opted not to do that.

Currently, console shooters are looked at as a joke by PC gamers because the skill mountain is flattened by the use of a controller. You may prefer it for comfort, but competition is not about comfort. It's about pushing yourself to do amazing things.

I play this game because it has KB/M as an option, which tells me it is attempting to be an actual legitimate competitive shooter on a console. If it starts going in the opposite direction and nerfing KB/M, then it will simply be looked at as yet another joke of a shooter and us PC guys will keep walking.

We have plenty of other options and are under no obligation to play a game that most console players won't touch due to its already declining reputation and a console gamers typically limited attention span towards slow development.


Also, you say you don't expect to be horribly handicapped by choosing to use the default method of control... but guess what? That's exactly what happens in every competitive genre.

Fighting gamers use 150 dollar arcade sticks to get that extra edge. Racing gamers use wheel setups. Flight sims use flight sticks. Mech-based games use all kinds of crazy expensive ****.

All of it is expected and allowed, because it raises the metagame into something glorious.

Console shooters are the only crowd that have this over-entitled attitude that they should not have to take responsibility for their controls. It's lazy and deplorable, and you hold the entire genre back.

Sorry Ric. I gotta completely disagree.

M/KB is not better than controller. Some people think it is. They say mouse is more precise. Mouse is more fluid. It isn't. The player determines which is better. The only honest advantage the mouse has is that a player can swipe a mouse across an area at any speed. Controllers are limited by the physical edges of the stick area. Once the mouse is limited in turn rate to be equal to the sticks on the controller there will be nothing the m/kb can do that the controller can't.

Some people are better with m/kb. Maybe that's how they started fps games. Maybe their wrist is stronger than their thumb. Whatever the reason - that scheme fits them better.

Some people are better with the controller. Maybe they are dexterous with their fingers than arms. Maybe ability to move the whole controller helps them keep a rhythm. Whatever the reason - that setting fits them better.

But no matter how you slice it - a control scheme is just that. One is not better than the other. One is not handicapped vs the other. It's time people stop blaming their tools....(when they work that is!)

I have a player in my Corp named Hel Zazaku.

She also happens to be a very good friend of mine.

Between Chromosome and Uprising, she has reported no reduction to her ability to one-shot any infantry player with the Forge Gun with pinpoint accuracy while using the mouse. Since she started playing back at the beginning of the Open Beta, having a turn rate cap on mouse input has never been an issue for her.

Her first match in this build with a Forge Gun, she came in near the end of the match, and went 8/2 with a Basic Heavy suit.

I think you guys are full of ****.

I guess our standpoints to this are different. Yes - you can play with a mouse. You just cannot play well with one, in the sense that mouse freedom, stability and responsiveness is much better in other fps games.

In chromosome I had a resemblance of twitch accuracy in my play; I could reach a state where the next target was hit in under half a second without so much aiming as just a wrist movement that came from the spine. Hand-eye-coordination was in. Uprising mouse issues with acceleration and odd deadzones removed this coordination, and the case was not in sensitivity tweaks but clear inconsistency of mouse movement. I could only describe it as inverse acceleration: fast movements made slower, slow movements made faster.

I'm not aiming in going positive on public games or scoring decently in them. I want to get in the groove with whatever role I play in dust. I can't get in groove now - chromosome was better.