~Spend 5 levels in a skill that they decide to radically change and nerf. No refund. Bait and switch BS is enraging
~Say they're going to decrease price of DS by half in patch notes. Increase price of all turrets instead, massively.
~Say they're going to give WP to pilots for lack of any reward currently. They don't.
~Break tons of fittings/survivability with said PG nerf. Now permanently missing 25% PG
~Claim to acknowledge vehicle/AV is unbalanced. 10% buff across board to all AV. LOL@2800 dmg forge guns
~Mention future plans to remove range limit FROM said forge guns. Probably swarms too.
~To counter AV buff, they give LAV's and HAV's more HP. But not dropships? Are you kidding me?

"Vehicle Balance
In order to enable to vehicles to last longer in combat for more fun, enduring engagements weGÇÖve increased hit point values for LAVs and HAVs accordingly. These changes will go out next week.

Std & Militia HAVs - 25% more hp
Enforcer HAVs - 60% more hp
Militia LAVs - 60% more hp
Std & Scout LAVs - 50% more hp
Charybdis Logistics LAV - 70% more hp
Limbus Logistics LAV - 40% more hp"

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75583&find=unread

As a DS pilot we were in a bad place before. After this? I don't even know what to say. CCP's behavior is erratic and contrary not only to balance but to what they themselves constantly state they recognize and intend to do.



Iron Wolf Saber, Save us all.

We are the whipping post of DUST 514. There aren't enough of us, so CCP just puts us on the backlog over and over and over again.

It's not even doomsaying, it's just plain truth.

Don't forget madrugers and gunnlogis are missing from that list too.

Don't forget madrugers and gunnlogis are missing from that list too.

~Break tons of fittings/survivability with said PG nerf. Now permanently missing 25% PG

Yeah, I can see the concern. I may hunt dropships for a living, but you guys have to actually find them worth flying or I have nothing to shoot at. -__-

If you fly dropships for your Dust living, or know some expert dropship pilots you can put me in touch with, feel free to contact me: Kain_Spero on Skype, in-game mail Kane Spero, and [email protected]

CCP does have a lot on their plate and as long as the continually make progress, communicate, and listen to quality feedback I think we will end up in a good place. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't make your concerns known.

I hate to be picky, but this isn't exactly right. We're missing 25% additional powergrid. We're only actually missing 20% powergrid. Say a vehicle has 450 PG, and we add an additional 25% from skills. Now it has 562.5.

450 / 562.5 = .8
1 - .8 = .2
.2 = 20%

It's not QQ or HTFU either.

It's ridiculous and you're right. Since Assault and AV out number us 1000 to 1 we're just meant to be clay pidgins for everyone to enjoy blasting millions of ISK out of the sky with some free, zero SP militia forge guns.

Except this backfires when all DS pilots either go on strike or just quit the game. I think we've had enough patience. And most of that patience was based on promises and statements made about Uprising. Now after all this, they're on borrowed time. It's quickly depleting if not gone already.

Pauses Skyrim:

Preach, brother, preach.

Looks at wasted 4 million sp on Assault Dropships AKA flying trash cans.

Goes back to playing Skyrim.


Remembers its my Destiny to go buy a soda but trips on some Bungie cords laying around.

actually there is a 1% cpu and pg skill per level... so we are missing 25% there hal.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594&find=unread

Should make a lot of people happy.

~Spend 5 levels in a skill that they decide to radically change and nerf. No refund. Bait and switch BS is enraging
~Say they're going to decrease price of DS by half in patch notes. Increase price of all turrets instead, massively.
~Say they're going to give WP to pilots for lack of any reward currently. They don't.
~Break tons of fittings/survivability with said PG nerf. Now permanently missing 25% PG
~Claim to acknowledge vehicle/AV is unbalanced. 10% buff across board to all AV. LOL@2800 dmg forge guns
~Mention future plans to remove range limit FROM said forge guns. Probably swarms too.
~To counter AV buff, they give LAV's and HAV's more HP. But not dropships? Are you kidding me?

"Vehicle Balance
In order to enable to vehicles to last longer in combat for more fun, enduring engagements weGÇÖve increased hit point values for LAVs and HAVs accordingly. These changes will go out next week.

Std & Militia HAVs - 25% more hp
Enforcer HAVs - 60% more hp
Militia LAVs - 60% more hp
Std & Scout LAVs - 50% more hp
Charybdis Logistics LAV - 70% more hp
Limbus Logistics LAV - 40% more hp"

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75583&find=unread

As a DS pilot we were in a bad place before. After this? I don't even know what to say. CCP's behavior is erratic and contrary not only to balance but to what they themselves constantly state they recognize and intend to do.



Iron Wolf Saber, Save us all.

Matchmaking GÇô we are working to put live an update to matchmaking on 5/14 that gets new players to play together, and keeps the vets and their proto gear away. For example: Entry to these battles will be limited by total warpoints earned per character and will prevent older players from joining.

We need to start transporting people, so get with your corpmates and try dropping them on objectives. Let's show CCP what they can do so they give us some love.

Looks like you guys are gonna be stuck in noob mode for a while

Nope. Vehicle skills don't scale up as usefully as AV.

Now I get to be graped by all proto AV in a dropship with 10 million SP that can hardly fend off militia AV.

Oh what fun it is to fly in a flaming can of death. Match making is going to make this a living hell if they don't fix the &$*% out of dropships prior to it's implementation. 4 days? We're boned.

I've basically lost all faith that dropships will be touched this year. All we ever get is lip service.

I do my job as best I can, I get my teammates from objective to objective, pick them up when their under fire, distract enemy tanks and take them out along with installations, all while paying a boat load of SP and ISK to do so. And I get nothing. At all. Nothing but disappointment and aggravation.

And that's as a vet pilot with a rapidly dwindling supply of millions of ISK.

It's a joke that CCP does not care about, at all.

Period.

You will be matched by WP, you don't have to worry about proto AV

I'm going to do an experiment later today, once I calm down from raging over the bull kitten that is being a pilot.

I'm going to fly for 5 games of skirmish as best I can, trying not to die while doing my job. I'm going to add up my losses and stack them against my ISK gained, along with how much SP I gain.

Then, I am going to afk for the first time, for 5 games. I'll add up my losses and stack them against my ISK gained, along with how much SP I gain.

I'm curious to see what is more profitable; being a team player, or sitting in the MCC with a cup of joe.

I need to just leave the forums for right now, the rage is WAY too strong in this one.

Yeah, I can see the concern. I may hunt dropships for a living, but you guys have to actually find them worth flying or I have nothing to shoot at. -__-

If you fly dropships for your Dust living, or know some expert dropship pilots you can put me in touch with, feel free to contact me: Kain_Spero on Skype, in-game mail Kane Spero, and [email protected]

CCP does have a lot on their plate and as long as they continually make progress, communicate, and listen to quality feedback I think we will end up in a good place. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't make your concerns known.

CCP says they're fixing it like every month but they never do.

It's all double speak and no action.

have to agree with this, as a FGer, killing dropships has become a joke. what happened to the dance with the man in the sky? now i feel like i'm swatting flies for all the trouble derpships give me if it's not fun to kill you, i can't imagine what it's like to actually fly one

It's not QQ or HTFU either.

It's ridiculous and you're right. Since Assault and AV out number us 1000 to 1 we're just meant to be clay pidgins for everyone to enjoy blasting millions of ISK out of the sky with some free, zero SP militia forge guns.

Except this backfires when all DS pilots either go on strike or just quit the game. I think we've had enough patience. And most of that patience was based on promises and statements made about Uprising. Now after all this, they're on borrowed time. It's quickly depleting if not gone already.

Your 1 in 1000 comes out to a grand total of 5.

i would more focus on the Logistic dropships they really need the love the assault DS is nimble enough for the quick hit and runs

might be fun to take off the guns on the logi DS would free up the fitting they need and the mobile mobile cru would give them a niche as a mobile tactical insertion.

maybe not this but, they need some kinda love.

I'm torn, some stuff like the new flight mechanics and flight ceiling I absolutely love and have made flying more fun, but other **** that's been a problem foe ages and hadn't been fixed just pisses me off so much.