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Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
143
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:36:00 -
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A full SP reset with the skilltree beign such a huge SP sink? **** that ****. I didn't grind away these last 3 months to watch all that SP saved up disappear. |
L1eutenant
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:42:00 -
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Veritas Vitae wrote:A full SP reset with the skilltree beign such a huge SP sink? **** that ****. I didn't grind away these last 3 months to watch all that SP saved up disappear.
You do understand the point of a beta right?
It isn't for you to grind like crazy and get a head start...
Its to provide feedback on all elements of the game and to report bugs should you come across them...
If they had said from the start that all progression is being reset at launch would you still have played as much? |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
105
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:46:00 -
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L1eutenant wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:A full SP reset with the skilltree beign such a huge SP sink? **** that ****. I didn't grind away these last 3 months to watch all that SP saved up disappear. You do understand the point of a beta right? It isn't for you to grind like crazy and get a head start... Its to provide feedback on all elements of the game and to report bugs should you come across them... If they had said from the start that all progression is being reset at launch would you still have played as much?
Well, betas typically don't have real money transactions, including ones that only exist to speed progress. It would be a huge breach of trust considering that. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:57:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:L1eutenant wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:A full SP reset with the skilltree beign such a huge SP sink? **** that ****. I didn't grind away these last 3 months to watch all that SP saved up disappear. You do understand the point of a beta right? It isn't for you to grind like crazy and get a head start... Its to provide feedback on all elements of the game and to report bugs should you come across them... If they had said from the start that all progression is being reset at launch would you still have played as much? Well, betas typically don't have real money transactions, including ones that only exist to speed progress. It would be a huge breach of trust considering that.
I wouldn't expect a reset to include real money items without a full-value refund (in Aurum, for example).
That would be unreasonable, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that it should. |
L1eutenant
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:21:00 -
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They would know which PSN accounts have bought what packs, so if i reset was to occur then you would get the items as if you had just bought them...?
E.g. My toon has been reset and all items etc. gone, but i have x items from this pack and x AUR etc. etc. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
47
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:33:00 -
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No. Full stat reset too. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
161
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:35:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Yes. Honestly for the first month that's what I thought they were going to do. I'm in this for the long run, if we lose 4 months of beta skill points that's not such a bad thing. This must be your first beta. This is the first beta that I have ever seen let you keep what you got during beta, in the release.
Dammit I misread the question, I meant to say "No." My response doesn't even make sense if I really meant Yes. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
182
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:51:00 -
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Nope. |
xSynnx x
Requiem of Shadows
DEADSPACE SOCIETY
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:02:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:hooc order wrote:Would you quit if everyone's Sp was reset back to 500K?
If yes then doesn't that tell you that the SP leveling system is broken?
If yes doesn't that tell you game play is really not all that fun anymore with the update?
If yes then how do you think a new player feels when they come here and not only start with 500K Sp but have to go up against people with 8 million SP? What chance is there that if you were them that you would stay for very long? Yes I would. And thats there problem for playing the game late. We played since closed beta, and earned out SP. How would you feel if you been playing this game trying to get 10mil sp, then all of a sudden they say restart from 500,000 sp... Dafuq.... - Geth
1. please stop signing with your name... we know its you...
2. dont ever beta test an MMO either. of course if you did you'd be the only person crying on the forums about having to start at level 1 again with no gear after beta ended QQ
also.....
L1eutenant wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:A full SP reset with the skilltree beign such a huge SP sink? **** that ****. I didn't grind away these last 3 months to watch all that SP saved up disappear. You do understand the point of a beta right? It isn't for you to grind like crazy and get a head start... Its to provide feedback on all elements of the game and to report bugs should you come across them... If they had said from the start that all progression is being reset at launch would you still have played as much?
thank you sir for explaining. people just dont seem to understand this simple concept. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
265
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:02:00 -
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TheSprayNPray2 wrote:I wouldn't mind if it would encourage new players to join
It might encourage new players on the 14th, but after that, the same problems we're having today pubstomping-wise would still be present. |
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1689
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:05:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Would you quit if everyone's Sp was reset back to 500K?
If yes then doesn't that tell you that the SP leveling system is broken?
If yes doesn't that tell you game play is really not all that fun anymore with the update?
If yes then how do you think a new player feels when they come here and not only start with 500K Sp but have to go up against people with 8 million SP? What chance is there that if you were them that you would stay for very long?
If they fix the HMG you will see me again |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
72
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:08:00 -
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Yup, if everybody is back to square one, then why not? I like the idea of DUST, and starting over isn't so bad when you have a bunch of fellow gamers in the same boat as you. Granted I could do with less bitching about having to re-earn everything, but that's a first world problem, lol. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:09:00 -
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My only gripe with CCP right now is the issue with the BPO and them not keeping their promise. If I want my money back, I need to fully reset my character... that is total BS. Might be okay with it if everyone was reset never the less, would even the playing fields for everyone. Or a simple BPO refund based on time of purchase would do the trick too. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
22
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:12:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:TheSprayNPray2 wrote:I wouldn't mind if it would encourage new players to join It might encourage new players on the 14th, but after that, the same problems we're having today pubstomping-wise would still be present.
Eventually, yes, but to nowhere near the same degree as would be caused by people having a gazillion SP head-start on launch day. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
295
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:19:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:Abron Garr wrote:TheSprayNPray2 wrote:I wouldn't mind if it would encourage new players to join It might encourage new players on the 14th, but after that, the same problems we're having today pubstomping-wise would still be present. Eventually, yes, but to nowhere near the same degree as would be caused by people having a gazillion SP head-start on launch day.
um yeah it would
A reset would only **** off every old players and bring in a couple new ones for some fancy 'release' event.
But then the new players quit anyways. The old players now have quit. Anyone who started at the fresh reset after two months would have tons more SP than anyone and we're back to square one
No reset. It's a stupid idea. It solves nothing, postpones a "problem". Realize that anyone who would want to play this game will. And anyone who would not, won't stick around very long if they even try it.
reset is such a pointlessly horrible idea. |
Llan Heindell
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
62
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:22:00 -
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I would be sad. lol
Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:The game is borked due to balance issues and bugs, not because some people have more sp than you. While I think players under 4mil so should have their own arena I can't honestly say a reset is necessary. I play on an alt, on which I have ~1mil sp and do ok. If you're getting raped you need to reevaluate your tactics and your skill.
Agreed.
I hope that the drone battles and tutorials will improve that overtime.
Llan Heindell. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
57
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:24:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Would you quit if everyone's Sp was reset back to 500K?
If yes then doesn't that tell you that the SP leveling system is broken?
If yes doesn't that tell you game play is really not all that fun anymore with the update?
If yes then how do you think a new player feels when they come here and not only start with 500K Sp but have to go up against people with 8 million SP? What chance is there that if you were them that you would stay for very long?
It was rest several times in past, yet we are still here  |
Kuru Astroyka
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:24:00 -
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People have to remember the SP they "earned" was during Beta. Sure I would expect some (aur) reimbursement of the boosters I've used/bought, but yes I would support a total wipe of the SP accrued so far.
I've been playing for just over 10 days, have about 2.4m SP between 2 characters, those "new" players that "could" arrive on the 14th will be in for a shock when the meet up with the proto boys (and girls).
Many games wipe SP once they come out of beta to ensure there is a level playing field. The beta phase was for testing not grinding SP, so don't QQ if CCP decides to wipe your "hard work" overnight  |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
295
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:25:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:hooc order wrote:Would you quit if everyone's Sp was reset back to 500K?
If yes then doesn't that tell you that the SP leveling system is broken?
If yes doesn't that tell you game play is really not all that fun anymore with the update?
If yes then how do you think a new player feels when they come here and not only start with 500K Sp but have to go up against people with 8 million SP? What chance is there that if you were them that you would stay for very long? It was rest several times in past, yet we are still here
those were planned. This retention was planned.
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1013
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:26:00 -
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I have put 11mil of SP into the vehicle tree and found out im next to useless
At least if we did all start over again i would know that vehicles are next to useless so i could skill up something else instead
I might aswell be already at 0 SP |
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KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
421
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:27:00 -
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Yes, I would definitely quit. I have been through complete resets that I put a lot of effort into.
This SP Reset was nearly as bad because they removed many skills and made many functions nearly impossible to get back. Logi Bro takes ~2M SP to enable using my existing Sever which is now Mimmatar. To get back to where I was there needs to be ~20M more SP in my account. That is a lot of grinding and Uprising is mostly grinding without the fun of being able to try out different things as we are forced into specialization.
Another reset would just flat do me in. Of course, I would be able to turn my PS3 off and never turn it on again. 
Unless I bought Demon Souls.  |
Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
150
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:30:00 -
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Em... yep.
Would curse the setback progression, but would play.
And I have strated 2 alts also, so it's a continued journey. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2845
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:30:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Would you quit if everyone's Sp was reset back to 500K?
No, but if they don't offer a valid Merc Pack solution, it will be a while before I spend more money on the game, even though the only better solution is going to offer absolutely nothing to benefit me.
Quote:If yes then doesn't that tell you that the SP leveling system is broken?
If I said yes, I'd agree with this argument. I have an attitude which would suit that logic. Not everyone does. I have several characters with under 4 million SP, and while I think there needs to be better matchmaking, I don't think the leveling system itself is broken.
Quote:If yes doesn't that tell you game play is really not all that fun anymore with the update?
No, that wouldn't be what tells me the current build has problems. The problems with the build are what tells me the current build has problems.
Quote:If yes then how do you think a new player feels when they come here and not only start with 500K Sp but have to go up against people with 8 million SP? What chance is there that if you were them that you would stay for very long?
Whether yes or no, I think that it's an awesome feeling to bring a character with under 2 million SP against a Protosuit and win. It's not such an awesome feeling to be in a 6 vs. 2 battle where the 6 are all in Prototype gear and neither of the 2 have more than 2 million SP. Like I said, better matchmaking. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
43
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:31:00 -
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Adapt or Die |
dust badger
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
306
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:32:00 -
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no the funnest part of this game is when everyone is at 0 |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
365
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:33:00 -
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Would not quit. Would like it. AURUM reset should accompany. |
Kuru Astroyka
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:33:00 -
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Why did people join the game during Beta? To give it a try or to get ahead before the official release?
Beta is for mass testing, simple, how many of you have actually submitted bug reports instead of bleating on the forums? Beta isn't for grinding and getting ahead, its for finding issues and reporting them correctly so they can be fixed.
The game isn't released yet so CCP can do as they wish. I really do doubt those people that have abused the Beta phased in the hopes to get ahead will actually leave and if they do, so what, this game is going to be around for a while. |
SmileB4Death
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
68
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:44:00 -
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I wouldn't mind to be honest. But I'm a logidude, that's the only thing that would get on my nerves  |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:46:00 -
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i would quit since there wouldn't be anything keeping here anymore besides grinding back to where i was before(which was hell so screw that) |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die
31
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:52:00 -
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just uprising alone made me quit. I effectively have had my skill points reset as I lost a ton of skills
due to everything costing so bloody much.
doesn't affect people with 10m SP but it affect me a LOT.
New players will not like this game. They're not going to stick around for the amount of time it takes to compete. |
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