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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
186
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:38:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:Sorry man, just not agreeing with you. Its not that I haven't played, or don't play correctly. I'm sure after a certain time/Sp is achieved I won't complain, but that still won't make it any easier on the new players.
Which is why it is important for these new players to get into good/decent corps, in order to them through that darkest hour. But the only person who can help them do that is themselves. Unfortunate. Freewill? |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
19
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:39:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Dazereth the 2nd wrote:Sorry man, just not agreeing with you. Its not that I haven't played, or don't play correctly. I'm sure after a certain time/Sp is achieved I won't complain, but that still won't make it any easier on the new players. Which is why it is important for these new players to get into good/decent corps, in order to them through that darkest hour. But the only person who can help them do that is themselves. Unfortunate. Freewill? Unfortunately I lack a mic for the PS3, so I'm really quite useless to corps as it stands. |

Rhorian Darkstar
Dark Force Katana General Tso's Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:41:00 -
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iv seen worst bug than these on a paid game. Launch day New Vegas anyone  |

Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
307
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:42:00 -
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The solution: make STD gear very easy to skill into. Give a new merc enough skill points out of the box to skill into STD gear and at least level 2 in the core skills. Give them a road map for said skills so they aren't lost. Perhaps an in game video that plays upon making a new character which shows how to join a corp, how to pick a corp, how to skill into a specific field without wasting SP, and then a training course- a boot camp, if you will. Starter corps also need a change. A player should immediately put into a starter corp that is populated by teachers. I know it's crazy, but if new players were immediately given the option to join Dust University or Bojo's School of the Trades, this game would be a little easier to handle. Sure, these places exist, but a new player will not find it unless someone points them at it.
As of now, new players are thrown to the wolves. Sure, those of us that have stuck around have become vicious wolves that can rip apart these new scrubs 7 at a time, but it means that eventually, we're only gonna be playing the same 5000 people forever and that's no fun. Perhaps, if for the first 2 weeks of a character's creation, they would be given the option to only be put in battles with other characters who have existed for 2 weeks or less. After that, they can no longer use that battle finder option.
This will work because nobody is getting nerfed. Nobody is getting buffed. Everything stays the same except new players won't be as lost in the sauce as they are now and the vets can find new people to play with. This game is becoming a stagnant pool and I'm sick of it.
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Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
19
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:43:00 -
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Rhorian Darkstar wrote:iv seen worst bug than these on a paid game. Launch day New Vegas anyone  God, NV was atrocious on launch. I bought the CE and was excited to sit down to it. I remember getting the classic pack and trying to mod my 10mm and walking around with a giant red exclamation attached to my guy lol |

HAICD
Dogs of War Gaming DARKSTAR ARMY
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:47:00 -
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I would be nice to have an ambush mode where you could only use free suits. Spent a few weeks there learning the game and growing your skill points. |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
19
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:48:00 -
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HAICD wrote:I would be nice to have an ambush mode where you could only use free suits. Spent a few weeks there learning the game and growing your skill points. Legit, or have like a "Nub League" where people 3m sp and lower can have their own bracket before being thrown to the wolves. |

Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
186
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:54:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Dazereth the 2nd wrote:Sorry man, just not agreeing with you. Its not that I haven't played, or don't play correctly. I'm sure after a certain time/Sp is achieved I won't complain, but that still won't make it any easier on the new players. Which is why it is important for these new players to get into good/decent corps, in order to them through that darkest hour. But the only person who can help them do that is themselves. Unfortunate. Freewill? Unfortunately I lack a mic for the PS3, so I'm really quite useless to corps as it stands.
Come play with us. I assure you, you will do just fine, even with out a mic, as long as you can respond via text chat, doesn't even need to be any thing fancy. Unfortunately I am not in game at the moment, but send me a message, or better yet just aply to our corp, and I will catch up with you. If you do apply to our corp. I will accept your application as soon as I can. If another one of our directors happens to accept your application befor I have the chance to you may have to scream a few time in corp chat to get anyone's attention. We don't use corp chat very often, we use a separate channel mostly. |

Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
159
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:57:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:HAICD wrote:I would be nice to have an ambush mode where you could only use free suits. Spent a few weeks there learning the game and growing your skill points. Legit, or have like a "Nub League" where people 3m sp and lower can have their own bracket before being thrown to the wolves.
IDK if it should be SP based, I think it would be better if it were meta based. Have one variety where you can only use Starter Fits, one where you can only use Standard gear, another only Advanced and finally only proto.
I know it has been brought up before, I just felt it needed interjected here. |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
19
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:18:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Dazereth the 2nd wrote:HAICD wrote:I would be nice to have an ambush mode where you could only use free suits. Spent a few weeks there learning the game and growing your skill points. Legit, or have like a "Nub League" where people 3m sp and lower can have their own bracket before being thrown to the wolves. IDK if it should be SP based, I think it would be better if it were meta based. Have one variety where you can only use Starter Fits, one where you can only use Standard gear, another only Advanced and finally only proto. I know it has been brought up before, I just felt it needed interjected here. Disagree, because who levels all of them at once. If it's meta level then you're gimped til you get all of your skills up to the next meta and slot fittings would make for wonky matchmaking.
and it would lead to twinking most likely |
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Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
19
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:36:00 -
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Would really love a straightforward response from a member of CCP regarding the gap here. (Please dont just buff militia gear, it's not that simple) |

Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
149
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:09:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:The solution: make STD gear very easy to skill into. Give a new merc enough skill points out of the box to skill into STD gear and at least level 2 in the core skills. Give them a road map for said skills so they aren't lost. Perhaps an in game video that plays upon making a new character which shows how to join a corp, how to pick a corp, how to skill into a specific field without wasting SP, and then a training course- a boot camp, if you will. Starter corps also need a change. A player should immediately put into a starter corp that is populated by teachers. I know it's crazy, but if new players were immediately given the option to join Dust University or Bojo's School of the Trades, this game would be a little easier to handle. Sure, these places exist, but a new player will not find it unless someone points them at it.
As of now, new players are thrown to the wolves. Sure, those of us that have stuck around have become vicious wolves that can rip apart these new scrubs 7 at a time, but it means that eventually, we're only gonna be playing the same 5000 people forever and that's no fun. Perhaps, if for the first 2 weeks of a character's creation, they would be given the option to only be put in battles with other characters who have existed for 2 weeks or less. After that, they can no longer use that battle finder option.
This will work because nobody is getting nerfed. Nobody is getting buffed. Everything stays the same except new players won't be as lost in the sauce as they are now and the vets can find new people to play with. This game is becoming a stagnant pool and I'm sick of it.
They can...... |

DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
188
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:25:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:STFU NOOB, HTFU!!!
J/k yea exactly the point. This game is even less new player friendly than it was before. New players are the lifeblood of this game and yet they have even less reason to commit time into this game. A new player doesn't care what CCP did before or what their history is they care about what they see in front of them.
There is no carrot when you are "regulated" at every step of the way. There is no ability to grind through the growing pains there is no way to balance it out with other game modes without a larger player count to ensure matchmaking works.
Sandbox and adapt or die in Dust didnt have to be identical to the model in EVE and this is exactly why it shouldnt have been. +1 |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
21
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:35:00 -
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Defenses are so low on these basic suits it's actually unplayable for me atm, that's with armor tanking. |

Cinnamon267
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:49:00 -
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I have to wonder how much FW and PC will address this issue of proto-stomping. People who will be involved with that heavily would already have so much ISK, due to the refund, I can't imagine them not using their best stuff just for the hell of it.
I didn't use my best stuff prior to Uprising when I played somewhat regularly. It was STD suit with AVD weapon. I remember seeing a bunch of people doing the same thing. Giving people a crap load of ISK hasn't solved this issue. It's made it worse. I have 50 million. Some people have a quarter of a billion. They created more problems instead of solving them.
I didn't enjoy stomping people. Which was part of the reason I stopped playing. It got really boring. I see where you are coming from OP. Even as someone with 5+ million SP I feel a little outclassed by some people with 8-10 million. But, not to the degree you are. It also doesn't help the AR is one of the only viable weapons still and everyone just uses GEK's and Duvolle's. Actual player skill only does so much. You can take someone out with a militia AR but you better be a good shot or they better be stationary with their back turned at a console. Even then there are players with 500+ shield and/or armour.
The idea that decent matchmaking is a low priority for them is an embarrassment. They should be ashamed of themselves for that. I refuse to believe that is true, though. In what dimension is matchmaking not a top priority for a MP game?
Player retention is key. There is a reason player population has plummeted. It's sitting of a steady number, now. But, there is no doubt it has taken an immense dive. That's due to the SP gap and CCP's inability to provide a decent tutorial for people to play in.
You can get away with certain crap in EVE online due to it being the only game of its kind. But, there are a lot of shooters out there. Especially F2P shooters. It's a huge market. With a lot of other places to go.
Anyone with half a brain, no offence, feels your pain OP.
Now that I am thinking of it a decent matchmaking system is more problematic than it seems. With only 2500-5000 players are there enough "new" people to segregate them for matches? Interesting to think about. |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
21
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:54:00 -
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For all the reasons you stated above and then some, I'm not playing until my SP is high enough to where I can be competitive. I do really well at shooters and at the end of the day, this game can take a backburner to literally 6 different other shooters I paid money for. The frustration simply isn't worth it and I've lost my passion for the game.
Just a few minutes ago I tried playing 3 different ambush matches and I got proto-stomped to death. Im out. Good luck guys, ride out the storm. I'll be around, but my patience is exhausted for now. |

Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:54:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:I, like the majority of this thread, simply disagree with you mate. I'm all for putting time in and getting somewhere but right now you simply don't understand the gear disparity by the new SP system as you're well beyond it.
Not being a ****, but you seem to be on a different wavelink than what this thread is attempting to say. I really don't care to get my ass handed to me over and over, that's not the issue. Not QQing about that. I'm talking about how newberries are regulated to these basic suits for the first month or so of gameplay. It's offputting and proto vets will **** you everytime, regardless to skill level. I get your points and I respect what you have to say, I just don't see the validity in it.
I could almost agree with you if the team match-ups were better balanced. I am not a newberry and I can tell you that it does not feel good 5 games in a row matching up against a 12 proto team... I can wear proto all day and spend my A$$ off, but I will never be competitive with all those protos on the other side. It is just a steam roller that can't be stopped. Now put half of the protos on my side and it becomes competitive again...
I don't mind being the bug on your windshield every now and again, but don't try to tell me anyone can be competitive in that type of environment. It just is not so. |

Kousuke Tsuda
DUST University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:59:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:I'm a newer player with less than 2m sp. So if this invalidates my opinion to you, please don't bother responding.
I'm somewhat casual, I suppose in that I don't get on the mic and play for hours with a team. Here's what I've noticed that's my primary gripe at the moment. I can live with not running Logi, as much as I hated to give it up. My problem is the primary deterrent from running full proto all the time is gone. There are people who were refunded billions of ISK.
Newberries like myself spawn in to play pub matches and we get proto-stomped into the ground as there are no checks on these older players. What's gonna happen at launch when we get X many more new people? Will it be easier because the player base will be larger, thus dispersing the high SP veterans over different matches? Or will they rain hate on them and scare them away?
Right now, someone with my SP and gear stands little to no chance against these full proto suits. I can kill them, sure. But if I'm ever in a close range firefight, I'm boned because of their gear. Every time. Now, don't tell me it's skill, because it's really not. If the teams are evenly matched, I do ok. Hell, I make top 3 almost every single time in BF3. It's not skill, I'm a good player.
I was just in two matches today where the other team was rocking full proto, all match long. I got a basic medium suit and a Gek. I love this game, it's just super unbalanced at the moment. You vets can defend the game all you want, stating that you've earned it this that or the other, but the bottom line is it's unbalanced and extraordinarily difficult for newberries to find enjoyment in the game due to the extreme SP disparity. I understand that this is a MMOFPSRPG or whatever. I get that gear is important. At a certain point however, that point is moot.
So, flame away. Tell me to "Adapt or die" but if you're not a newberry, you probably don't get it.
I agree with you 100%. Infact I was just talking about this on the local chat earlier. There has to be a matchmaking division system implemented in the public Battle Finder factoring in the amount of Prototype gear your squad has vs newbies kill/death ration if there is already one in place its not doing its job very well. 8 out of 10 deaths I get are from Proto fitted players per the Killcam. |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
21
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:22:00 -
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Agreed, these basic suits are utter crap. Against proto-weapons and proto-armor, I'm like a fly beating myself against the wall. |

Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
159
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:55:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Dazereth the 2nd wrote:HAICD wrote:I would be nice to have an ambush mode where you could only use free suits. Spent a few weeks there learning the game and growing your skill points. Legit, or have like a "Nub League" where people 3m sp and lower can have their own bracket before being thrown to the wolves. IDK if it should be SP based, I think it would be better if it were meta based. Have one variety where you can only use Starter Fits, one where you can only use Standard gear, another only Advanced and finally only proto. I know it has been brought up before, I just felt it needed interjected here. Disagree, because who levels all of them at once. If it's meta level then you're gimped til you get all of your skills up to the next meta and slot fittings would make for wonky matchmaking. and it would lead to twinking most likely
The same could be said of the SP idea.
Also, WTF is twinking?
Something else I just thought of while talking with a corpie. Missions, PVE missions from Eve could replace all of the fail matchmaking. At least it could inspire a system that would replace the fail matchmaking. There are certain missions where there are Ship restrictions on the entry gate, implement something similar in Dust. Make matches where they can only be deployed to with certain dropsuits.
It works in Eve, it is a precedent that has already been set. It would solve some of the problems some people are having with the new build and it would also save any freshfaced new players so our community could grow. |
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Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
23
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:13:00 -
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Twinking is reaching a bracket cap and leveling other skills to make them really potent but never upgrading into the next bracket.
I'm not sure how it could also be done with the SP level. Considering the SP level is a much broader, more versatile form of your idea that doesn't let people twink as hard. What I was trying to say is:
Player has meta level 2 shield and armor mods, doesn't have enough points to get all of his other kit up to meta 2. Ergo, is stuck in meta 1 brackets and can't use his meta 2 until his entire kit is level 2. Instead of having free-form character building, they now have to evenly build a kit all the way up, instead of maybe focusing on leveling his shields as high as he can and focusing on his inefficiencies. Follow me?
Now if there is an SP bracket for 1-4m, 4.1m-8 etc that lets people actually be able to use a conjunction of meta level items. I mean, they could do AVERAGE meta level brackets, but that seems convoluted and much less straight forward.
Separating it by meta level/ standard,advanced, proto screws people into even building, which causes many many wasted SP. |

Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
159
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:25:00 -
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See, I wasn't considering high/low mods in the equation, I was figuring that it would be based solely off of Dropsuit/Weapon meta. |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
23
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:27:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:See, I wasn't considering high/low mods in the equation, I was figuring that it would be based solely off of Dropsuit/Weapon meta. Yeah but if that were the case people would just twink out everything else and leave their weapon and dropsuit metas at advanced and rock proto shields and armor. |

Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
159
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:39:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:See, I wasn't considering high/low mods in the equation, I was figuring that it would be based solely off of Dropsuit/Weapon meta. Yeah but if that were the case people would just twink out everything else and leave their weapon and dropsuit metas at advanced and rock proto shields and armor.
So then they'd only be a worry for people in the Advanced bracket. Like missions in Eve, they should have 4 brackets (not counting level 5's) |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
24
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:42:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Dazereth the 2nd wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:See, I wasn't considering high/low mods in the equation, I was figuring that it would be based solely off of Dropsuit/Weapon meta. Yeah but if that were the case people would just twink out everything else and leave their weapon and dropsuit metas at advanced and rock proto shields and armor. So then they'd only be a worry for people in the Advanced bracket. Like missions in Eve, they should have 4 brackets (not counting level 5's)
Ok, how bout someone in a basic suit and weapon, rocking proto shields, armor/whatever.
SP based brackets are better :P |

Dazereth the 2nd
Stoned Kloned Killers
24
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:14:00 -
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Bump before bed, still interested in more input. |

Sollemnis Aelinos
89th Infantry Division
3
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:37:00 -
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i have been playing this game for quite a while. but the fact that people spend all the skillpoints on the proto can be a bad move at times because by then you wont have enough for better weapons or modules to go along with your suits. i try to balance things out so thats why i dont have a proto suit also |

Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
93
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Posted - 2013.05.09 05:08:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:I'm a newer player with less than 2m sp. So if this invalidates my opinion to you, please don't bother responding.
I'm somewhat casual, I suppose in that I don't get on the mic and play for hours with a team. Here's what I've noticed that's my primary gripe at the moment. I can live with not running Logi, as much as I hated to give it up. My problem is the primary deterrent from running full proto all the time is gone. There are people who were refunded billions of ISK.
Newberries like myself spawn in to play pub matches and we get proto-stomped into the ground as there are no checks on these older players. What's gonna happen at launch when we get X many more new people? Will it be easier because the player base will be larger, thus dispersing the high SP veterans over different matches? Or will they rain hate on them and scare them away?
Right now, someone with my SP and gear stands little to no chance against these full proto suits. I can kill them, sure. But if I'm ever in a close range firefight, I'm boned because of their gear. Every time. Now, don't tell me it's skill, because it's really not. If the teams are evenly matched, I do ok. Hell, I make top 3 almost every single time in BF3. It's not skill, I'm a good player.
I was just in two matches today where the other team was rocking full proto, all match long. I got a basic medium suit and a Gek. I love this game, it's just super unbalanced at the moment. You vets can defend the game all you want, stating that you've earned it this that or the other, but the bottom line is it's unbalanced and extraordinarily difficult for newberries to find enjoyment in the game due to the extreme SP disparity. I understand that this is a MMOFPSRPG or whatever. I get that gear is important. At a certain point however, that point is moot.
So, flame away. Tell me to "Adapt or die" but if you're not a newberry, you probably don't get it.
I say being a new player definatly gives a better perspective of what CCP wants, they allready got lots of bitter vets. Us with 8-10 million can get a protosuit with protomods, but how long wiil it take a 2 million SP person to do timewise? Do you think they can be retained untill then?
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Jikt Terlen
Certificate of Participation
14
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:19:00 -
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There are definitely some serious disparities out there, though from my own experience I can't say how much of it is gear disparity and how much is fighting the borked control system. I can say that the people I play with regularly are pretty disgusted by the current build, but I can't say exactly what the most glaring issue is.
As someone who is also usually running an ADV suit and a GEK or Duvolle, I regularly get annihilated by people with the same guns I'm using, and some of that is attributable to proto suits (and probably damage mods as well). In some situations I swear people are hitting me with ARs from significantly further away than I can reach with my AR, and melting my face from a distance at a rate that I can't match even up close (using the same guns I am). I can't chalk up the disparity to Sharpshooter anymore, so I don't know what the deal is. I held my own just fine in the last build, and this build I am often a bug on the windshield.
A big part of that is the controls, which now make aiming (I use a KB/M, troll if you so desire, I don't care) vastly more difficult. It's basically impossible to both turn and aim with any degree of precision. I assume this is just clumsiness on the part of CCP and will be addressed eventually, but I can't imagine anyone who uses a mouse is going to continue playing long with the controls the way they are. Why they even touched the control scheme is itself baffling. Compared to last build, which I thought was quite solid control-wise, trying to hit anything with the new build is embarrassing. Clearly some people have adapted quickly and are destroying the people who are still getting their heads around it, though why CCP decided they needed to erase any control mastery most people had from the last build, I cannot fathom.
As I predicted, the advent of 6-player squads has turned a virtually constant pubstomp into a complete joke, as it is now pretty much a requirement to field a 6-player squad if you expect to have a chance. Why they increased the squad size without increasing the total number of players in a match baffles me, but it simply tilts the game even more in favor of bigger, more established corps than it already was. Yay. Combine that with braindead matchmaking and you seldom get anything resembling a balanced game. This is nothing new, it's just even worse now, and it is one of the most important things CCP needs to address if they expect new players to last a week.
One other thing: does it seem like people are running into the same groups of people again and again, much more than last build? Maybe it's a function of the larger squads or something else, but I'm seeing things like full squads of Subdreddit, sometimes on both sides of the match, where before I would seldom see any, and running into a lot more of the well-known veterans than I ever did in the last build. It just makes me wonder if maybe the pool of available players is even smaller than it seems. |

13th Clone
The Merc Net
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:42:00 -
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Dazereth the 2nd wrote:I'm a newer player with less than 2m sp. So if this invalidates my opinion to you, please don't bother responding.
I'm somewhat casual, I suppose in that I don't get on the mic and play for hours with a team. Here's what I've noticed that's my primary gripe at the moment. I can live with not running Logi, as much as I hated to give it up. My problem is the primary deterrent from running full proto all the time is gone. There are people who were refunded billions of ISK.
Newberries like myself spawn in to play pub matches and we get proto-stomped into the ground as there are no checks on these older players. What's gonna happen at launch when we get X many more new people? Will it be easier because the player base will be larger, thus dispersing the high SP veterans over different matches? Or will they rain hate on them and scare them away?
Right now, someone with my SP and gear stands little to no chance against these full proto suits. I can kill them, sure. But if I'm ever in a close range firefight, I'm boned because of their gear. Every time. Now, don't tell me it's skill, because it's really not. If the teams are evenly matched, I do ok. Hell, I make top 3 almost every single time in BF3. It's not skill, I'm a good player.
I was just in two matches today where the other team was rocking full proto, all match long. I got a basic medium suit and a Gek. I love this game, it's just super unbalanced at the moment. You vets can defend the game all you want, stating that you've earned it this that or the other, but the bottom line is it's unbalanced and extraordinarily difficult for newberries to find enjoyment in the game due to the extreme SP disparity. I understand that this is a MMOFPSRPG or whatever. I get that gear is important. At a certain point however, that point is moot.
So, flame away. Tell me to "Adapt or die" but if you're not a newberry, you probably don't get it.
So very true question how did you go in the last build ? I at least could kill and be killed and enjoy it making a few well aimed shots make a proto rethink charging towards me now they charge hip firing and I'm dead while I ads and watch them run into and through my clip I do that the bigger health stacking and shields but really want it on the older build . Older build much much more fun but looked really bad uprising completely ruined mechanics but the Lav looks great and handles great and everything else looks great , even with the massive sp increases last build would have been more fun now it just feels like a slow boring grind |
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