CCP is being stupid by putting better match making a low priority. They need to implement a system that keeps proto guys away from noobs now not next year. Just another way they are killing their own game before it even gets to launch

I'm not sure how well the "defensive" concept works (unless you start giving out wp for surviving rather than killing) but one way to do it is to add a suppression effect to the HMG which disrupts aim.

I think CCP will eventually make it so protos can't be used in pub matches. It's the same thing they've done with capital ships and certain boosters in Eve.

Sorry about the typos and missing words in my last post before this one, everything is fixed now though.

And as I said, your prospective is all wrong for this game.

I've been accused of being a CCP fanboy, with good reason, but I can honestly say that whoever deemed that any sort of matchmaking is a low priority should immediately be dragged out back and shot (figuratively speaking of course). As if getting past the usual "Huh? WTF is Dust 514?" comment that most people experience when telling friends about the game wasn't disheartening enough, the majority of people I do manage to introduce to Dust are immediately turned off by the rampant pub stomping.

Even if EvE, we have places for noobs to learn and skill up before throwing them up against t2 or deadspace fitted opponents (ignoring the usual Bait-Can faggotry found in tutorial systems). I don't think anyone is asking for mandatory gear or skill checking for every match, but by God, it should at least be an option. If you do nothing else but make a militia only tier and then work your way up, that would be a major improvement. Call it Bootcamp/Training or some other RP nonsense.

If you're hoping PvE is going to bridge the gap between noobs and vets, you better pray it's the best damned PvE experience anyone has ever had. Judging by EvE's current PvE standards, I'm not holding my breath, no offense. Wake up CCP. There's nothing hardcore about a free Playstation game with less than 5k players on a weeknight. Dust has a lot of potential but I'm afraid it will never be realized if there's no one there to experience it.

It's broken. Uprising update took Dust a step backwards.

Most of your (legitimate) complaints will be taken care of with proper matchmaking. That will be only possible with higher player count than the 5k peak we have atm, though.

We wont get higher player counts unless the game becomes new player friendly.

I have been there before man, you are not telling me anything I don't already know. I have put in the months worth or work you are speaking of. Only it was not as of putting for me as you describe it here. Change your tactics man do what is necessary to stay alive, do what is necessary to kill your enemies, don't get so overwhelmed by loosening pub matches that you have little to no control over who you are fighting with or against. Find good players/a good corp to play with and field squads into pub matches/play in corpbattles/planetary conquest.

If none of this helps you then I don't know what to tell you man.

In the beginning EVE was also doubted as a monumental failure, look where it is now. Only time will tell.

Uprising was more than a step backwards, it was the gun CCP used to kill their own game. The only way to save the game is to rollback to the last update or quickly fix all issues before launch. Once launch hits bad reviews will start pouring in. The few people who might actually have gotten into the game after launch will be turned away by a 3/10 review saying new players stand no chance.

And my point is nothing has changed.

Dude did you not just see me tell you that I am currently running basic advanced level dropsuits and absolutely destroying people with them (faction dropsuit included). Where the hell are you man.

It takes time man. Patience is a virtue. Nothing has changed.

It doesn't take that much to get into a basic suit... it's the specific suits behind that which will cost you an arm and a leg. You don't need those fancy shmancy suits to play well.

@Dazereth

Well I am sorry that I seem to be upsetting you. I have recruited and helped a lot of newberries an my player retention is pretty good. Look message me in game come role with a few of us salty vets and see if that changes your mind any. Trust me, I know where you are coming from and what you are trying to get across to me, but I am inviting you to come and see it from my side.

Proto Stomping won't be forever... Once Faction Warfare is actually working and Planetary Conquest is released you won't see many proto's in instant battles anymore because of the low isk payout. Right now all players are living in the high sec starting zone that is instant battles, however as soon as they are available veteran players will move to greener pastures with much higher isk payouts in FW and PC that will actually supprt then dieing 4-5 times in a full proto suit.

Yes in its current state dust is broken, but the fix is on the way.

Which is why it is important for these new players to get into good/decent corps, in order to them through that darkest hour. But the only person who can help them do that is themselves. Unfortunate. Freewill?

iv seen worst bug than these on a paid game. Launch day New Vegas anyone

I would be nice to have an ambush mode where you could only use free suits. Spent a few weeks there learning the game and growing your skill points.

IDK if it should be SP based, I think it would be better if it were meta based. Have one variety where you can only use Starter Fits, one where you can only use Standard gear, another only Advanced and finally only proto.

I know it has been brought up before, I just felt it needed interjected here.

See, I wasn't considering high/low mods in the equation, I was figuring that it would be based solely off of Dropsuit/Weapon meta.

So then they'd only be a worry for people in the Advanced bracket. Like missions in Eve, they should have 4 brackets (not counting level 5's)

All i can think of is have a matchmaking system. Have a place vets can compete with others on their level and newbs play against other newbs to learn the game and to find a fitting that works with their play style.