I don't think anybody got a billion ISK, but I know I picked up about 200 mil. I think the ISK disparities will start to diminish over time, especially when more expensive stuff starts coming in. A ton of that money will be thrown right into PC to get districts, so that will probably curb the number of people fighting in proto in public matches as well.

Still, it's certainly a problem that should be addressed to make it better for newer players.

CCP is being stupid by putting better match making a low priority. They need to implement a system that keeps proto guys away from noobs now not next year. Just another way they are killing their own game before it even gets to launch

CCP is being stupid by putting better match making a low priority. They need to implement a system that keeps proto guys away from noobs now not next year. Just another way they are killing their own game before it even gets to launch

I think the primary reason is that they only have like 4k on a time. With such a low player count it could make any matchmaking endeavors problematic.

Good to see I'm not alone, crying in a corner.

(Appreciate the responses guys!)

I'm a newer player with less than 2m sp. So if this invalidates my opinion to you, please don't bother responding.

I'm somewhat casual, I suppose in that I don't get on the mic and play for hours with a team. Here's what I've noticed that's my primary gripe at the moment. I can live with not running Logi, as much as I hated to give it up. My problem is the primary deterrent from running full proto all the time is gone. There are people who were refunded billions of ISK.

Newberries like myself spawn in to play pub matches and we get proto-stomped into the ground as there are no checks on these older players. What's gonna happen at launch when we get X many more new people? Will it be easier because the player base will be larger, thus dispersing the high SP veterans over different matches? Or will they rain hate on them and scare them away?

Right now, someone with my SP and gear stands little to no chance against these full proto suits. I can kill them, sure. But if I'm ever in a close range firefight, I'm boned because of their gear. Every time. Now, don't tell me it's skill, because it's really not. If the teams are evenly matched, I do ok. Hell, I make top 3 almost every single time in BF3. It's not skill, I'm a good player.

I was just in two matches today where the other team was rocking full proto, all match long. I got a basic medium suit and a Gek. I love this game, it's just super unbalanced at the moment. You vets can defend the game all you want, stating that you've earned it this that or the other, but the bottom line is it's unbalanced and extraordinarily difficult for newberries to find enjoyment in the game due to the extreme SP disparity. I understand that this is a MMOFPSRPG or whatever. I get that gear is important. At a certain point however, that point is moot.

So, flame away. Tell me to "Adapt or die" but if you're not a newberry, you probably don't get it.

I'm not sure how well the "defensive" concept works (unless you start giving out wp for surviving rather than killing) but one way to do it is to add a suppression effect to the HMG which disrupts aim.

I think CCP will eventually make it so protos can't be used in pub matches. It's the same thing they've done with capital ships and certain boosters in Eve.

I'm a newer player with less than 2m sp. So if this invalidates my opinion to you, please don't bother responding.

I'm somewhat casual, I suppose in that I don't get on the mic and play for hours with a team. Here's what I've noticed that's my primary gripe at the moment. I can live with not running Logi, as much as I hated to give it up. My problem is the primary deterrent from running full proto all the time is gone. There are people who were refunded billions of ISK.

Newberries like myself spawn in to play pub matches and we get proto-stomped into the ground as there are no checks on these older players. What's gonna happen at launch when we get X many more new people? Will it be easier because the player base will be larger, thus dispersing the high SP veterans over different matches? Or will they rain hate on them and scare them away?

Right now, someone with my SP and gear stands little to no chance against these full proto suits. I can kill them, sure. But if I'm ever in a close range firefight, I'm boned because of their gear. Every time. Now, don't tell me it's skill, because it's really not. If the teams are evenly matched, I do ok. Hell, I make top 3 almost every single time in BF3. It's not skill, I'm a good player.

I was just in two matches today where the other team was rocking full proto, all match long. I got a basic medium suit and a Gek. I love this game, it's just super unbalanced at the moment. You vets can defend the game all you want, stating that you've earned it this that or the other, but the bottom line is it's unbalanced and extraordinarily difficult for newberries to find enjoyment in the game due to the extreme SP disparity. I understand that this is a MMOFPSRPG or whatever. I get that gear is important. At a certain point however, that point is moot.

So, flame away. Tell me to "Adapt or die" but if you're not a newberry, you probably don't get it.

Sorry about the typos and missing words in my last post before this one, everything is fixed now though.

I, like the majority of this thread, simply disagree with you mate. I'm all for putting time in and getting somewhere but right now you simply don't understand the gear disparity by the new SP system as you're well beyond it.

Not being a ****, but you seem to be on a different wavelink than what this thread is attempting to say. I really don't care to get my ass handed to me over and over, that's not the issue. Not QQing about that. I'm talking about how newberries are regulated to these basic suits for the first month or so of gameplay. It's offputting and proto vets will **** you everytime, regardless to skill level. I get your points and I respect what you have to say, I just don't see the validity in it.

And as I said, your prospective is all wrong for this game.

I've been accused of being a CCP fanboy, with good reason, but I can honestly say that whoever deemed that any sort of matchmaking is a low priority should immediately be dragged out back and shot (figuratively speaking of course). As if getting past the usual "Huh? WTF is Dust 514?" comment that most people experience when telling friends about the game wasn't disheartening enough, the majority of people I do manage to introduce to Dust are immediately turned off by the rampant pub stomping.

Even if EvE, we have places for noobs to learn and skill up before throwing them up against t2 or deadspace fitted opponents (ignoring the usual Bait-Can faggotry found in tutorial systems). I don't think anyone is asking for mandatory gear or skill checking for every match, but by God, it should at least be an option. If you do nothing else but make a militia only tier and then work your way up, that would be a major improvement. Call it Bootcamp/Training or some other RP nonsense.

If you're hoping PvE is going to bridge the gap between noobs and vets, you better pray it's the best damned PvE experience anyone has ever had. Judging by EvE's current PvE standards, I'm not holding my breath, no offense. Wake up CCP. There's nothing hardcore about a free Playstation game with less than 5k players on a weeknight. Dust has a lot of potential but I'm afraid it will never be realized if there's no one there to experience it.

It's broken. Uprising update took Dust a step backwards.