There's supposed to be plates that give less HP but no penalty and plates that give even lesser HP but repair coming soonGäó

I don't want that... I want the full HP bonus with less movement speed reduction... We have this in Eve Online, we should have this in Dust 514...


At current, you can go with Armor Plates that give more HP than Shield Extenders, but Extenders don't have any drawbacks... It's easier to shield tank as it doesn't -REQUIRE- an Armor Repairer or a Logistics player with a Repair Tool.

I mean, the additions will be welcome for the spare low slots that I don't have any other use for after the first plate, but it shouldn't be mandatory that I take less HP to get the reduced movement speed penalty. If that's the case, I might as well just shield tank.

Edit: Just saying, if I can get 'x' amount of HP from Shield Extenders with certain skills and that value is the same as these new Plates that still have 'y' movement speed penalty - I'm still at a disadvantage because I'm getting the same HP value but still receiving -some- movement speed penalty. It's a never ending cycle.

I agree with the intentions outlined in the OP however I feel like this is exactly the choice for shield vs armour. Complex armour gets almost twice as much hp as a shield extender and it doesn't use as much PG/CPU.

Right now I'm running a Gallente Prototype basic suit with 2 enhanced armor plates and 2 complex armor repairers (that's like having half a basic repair tool fixed on me at all times) on my low slots. That is supposed to be a 10% movement penalty, but honestly since the speed nerf it's hard to notice that big of a difference between that and when I switch to my free suits. Plus I'm loving the bonuses armor has over shields (no grenade that can wipe it all out in one bang, constant repairs instead of delays for recharge, getting revived by nano injectors gives you 0 shields and a percent of your armor, so you come back stronger, etc).

I would like more armor skills though. I was thinking something a long the lines of a high slot module that could sacrifice your shields to quickly repair your armor. Though something that requires Armor Plating 5 as a prerequisite and reduced the movement speed penalty could be quite cool. Not sure how that would effect balance, but I would be down for it.

And I absolutely agree that the 120 shields is pretty useless for Gallente players which makes Assault suit quite frankly a dumb choice (no matter how sweet the Prototype Assault looks). Even if you get the 25% shield increase from the core skill, you are only sitting at 150 shields. I'd love if it were switched to something that could instead help my 450 armor.

Or give shields modules % increase in their 'sig radius' making them easier to detect with passive and active scans.

This would work... if our scans were still decent. As it stand glowing like a christmas trees would only affect shield tanking scout suits... with nova knives.

I think that They should change the penalties on armor modes to subtract from your stamina instead of from your speed, that way it could be more easily counteracted by a stamina and stam recharge mod.

Ferroscale plates are gonna be crap and a ******** direction to go with this game.

As already said, move speed is king. Move speed reduction needs to go altogether, this is an FPS not a space sim.

Until move speed reduction is gone for good, shield tanking will always be the only viable way to play this game.

I don't want that... I want the full HP bonus with less movement speed reduction... We have this in Eve Online, we should have this in Dust 514...


At current, you can go with Armor Plates that give more HP than Shield Extenders, but Extenders don't have any drawbacks... It's easier to shield tank as it doesn't -REQUIRE- an Armor Repairer or a Logistics player with a Repair Tool.

I mean, the additions will be welcome for the spare low slots that I don't have any other use for after the first plate, but it shouldn't be mandatory that I take less HP to get the reduced movement speed penalty. If that's the case, I might as well just shield tank.

Edit: Just saying, if I can get 'x' amount of HP from Shield Extenders with certain skills and that value is the same as these new Plates that still have 'y' movement speed penalty - I'm still at a disadvantage because I'm getting the same HP value but still receiving -some- movement speed penalty. It's a never ending cycle.

It seems like a large drain on SP for not that much effect.
It also makes it a requirement to spec into that skill to be decent with armour if armour is balanced with that.