DUST Search - CCP, you've learned nothing, have you?

BattleCry1791 wrote:

Travi Zyg wrote:

BattleCry1791 wrote:

Ghost InShell wrote:

So if I understand this correct your angry that people that put more time into the game have better stuff then you have ?

and something about tank driving is bad..

Try to comprehend this....I'm concerned for the new blood coming in to this game. If there is no place for the militia guys to run around in and kill on each other, they will quit and this game will be the same 20, 000 or so playing it over and over on a daily basis. Once that 20K no longer ever needs to buy a merc pack or any other AUR items, the game dies and that's the end.

Shiny?

I dont think enough credit is given to the new berries. Ive had a few friends start very recently and are having a blast. They arent all as stupid as people think, on the contrary, a lot of the "big super elite blahblahblah" corps just think they are so above it all and treat new guys like **** and intentionally humiliate them...that's a bit more of a turn off to playing a new game than some people who have better gear than you.

I'm sorry, have you ever actually PLAYED a FPS game in the last 10 years?

Blue dots have actually made me give up on humanity as a whole. They are the most contemptuous lot of selfish, impractical, and idiotic miscreants I've ever come across.

The next time you see a blue dot doing something that just confounds you, think of this...it's likely that blue dot drives, holds a job, and heaven help us, will likely bred if they haven't already.

Terrifying....honestly terrifying.

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Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens Orion Empire 198	Posted - 2013.05.08 23:58:00 - [91] - Quote BattleCry1791 wrote: Travi Zyg wrote: BattleCry1791 wrote: Ghost InShell wrote: So if I understand this correct your angry that people that put more time into the game have better stuff then you have ? and something about tank driving is bad.. Try to comprehend this....I'm concerned for the new blood coming in to this game. If there is no place for the militia guys to run around in and kill on each other, they will quit and this game will be the same 20, 000 or so playing it over and over on a daily basis. Once that 20K no longer ever needs to buy a merc pack or any other AUR items, the game dies and that's the end. Shiny? I dont think enough credit is given to the new berries. Ive had a few friends start very recently and are having a blast. They arent all as stupid as people think, on the contrary, a lot of the "big super elite blahblahblah" corps just think they are so above it all and treat new guys like **** and intentionally humiliate them...that's a bit more of a turn off to playing a new game than some people who have better gear than you. I'm sorry, have you ever actually PLAYED a FPS game in the last 10 years? Blue dots have actually made me give up on humanity as a whole. They are the most contemptuous lot of selfish, impractical, and idiotic miscreants I've ever come across. The next time you see a blue dot doing something that just confounds you, think of this...it's likely that blue dot drives, holds a job, and heaven help us, will likely bred if they haven't already. Terrifying....honestly terrifying. Just remember that you're a blue dot to someone too. LOL
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens Orion Empire 198	Posted - 2013.05.08 23:58:00 - [92] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: Shijima Kuraimaru wrote: Mical Angelo wrote: Yea and no one is complaining they can't slaughter with pro gear. I'm not complaining about not being able to pwn in pro gear, I use starter fits right now, OPs not complaining on his own behalf either. No one is complaining about inability to kill with proto gear. Because we can, we just don't. However others do. I can endure Proto pub stomping, but can new berries? Hmmm. and yet I come back to " Last night I went in with militia assault and I broke even or went positive in most of the matches I played, even against high end geared people that were slaughtering me before. I actually had a chance!" Ok. So perhaps I also forgot to mention that I have no SP in ASLT suits or AR. If I can do it, I'm sure there are others out there who can too. I think the problem is more the learning curve. I believe many new players come in from FPS games where lone wolf run and gun is the nature of the beast, while here in Dust that player will usually end up as a dead trooper. Dust doesn't reward that playstyle and I don't think they want to learn another playstyle. That's their choice and I don't hold it against them. STFU -3 There's a special bird just for you. LMAO
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens Orion Empire 198	Posted - 2013.05.09 00:05:00 - [93] - Quote Straum Arjn wrote: Mical Angelo wrote: PS I have no skill in AR either, and can easily rip through militia. Standard with Exile vs proto with duvolle. You ain't pulling that one off. I almost did! Stupid no sidearm weapon with logi suits... :P Actually I have pulled it off. Rather than just rushing head long into a hail of withering fire, I actually manage to flank them or get behind them while their attention is on other team mates. I came up behind a proto assault and a logi (not sure of tier). I was in a militia fit and took both of them while they were paying attention to a larger group of my team mates, on the other side of cover, in front of them. It can be done.
Mical Angelo Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 2	Posted - 2013.05.09 03:44:00 - [94] - Quote With 48 bullets in a militia ar, those photos musta been pretty bad. I've never seen a organized corp squad do that, and every match I've been in has a corp squad in them. Any proto I know (700 hp+) would have turned around in the 2+ seconds that would take to kill them and either run or gun you down.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2081	Posted - 2013.05.09 04:10:00 - [95] - Quote +1 battlecry. Not only did the MAG community tell CCP what not to do, we explained what they SHOULD do / steal from MAG. Numerous times I and others have requested tier limited games I.e. militia only ect. The state we are in now, I don't see a reasonable path to recovery. CCP said go ** yourselves. Now CCPs potential customers are saying go ** yourselves. Karma
BattleCry1791 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 221	Posted - 2013.05.09 04:34:00 - [96] - Quote And that's the thing that mystifies me Tony. A Militia only mode would actually be the best option to attract new FPS console players. No fuss, no muss, easy as 1 2 3 FPS gaming. Even though I can't stand TDM game modes, it really does tell the tale of how exciting the pure run and gun (or camp and vamp) game play is for an FPS. Personally, I think CCP is afraid to do this. Have just a Militia only PVP option. And I think it's for two reasons: 1) It's very "not EvE". Eve doesn't have anything like that, really. It is what it is. But my issue here is that this is Sparta. Not EvE. You have to have dumbed down modes for the dumbed down players. 2) I think that if they did create a "Militia only" mode, then the game would be exposed as being "no fun to play" and that the only thing really carrying it was the proposed Meta. What most people fail to understand about Dust is that the game is an FPS with a built in imbalance. It's supposed to be that way. Guys playing on day 1 are going to get clobbered by us beta vets just due to gear alone. In EvE, you can run missions and do PVE stuff to build up your toon for PVP, FPS players will not look to do PVE to build their mercs. They want to PVP and as soon as they figure out the only reason they keep going negative is gear and that they have ot grind out to be able to play on the same level as longer lived players...they'll just quit. The way this game is designed right now really goes against the youth culture here in the US, which is "instant gratification NOW". If CCP fails to recognize this and plan accordingly, the "meta game" may not even save them.
Far Fall DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2013.05.09 05:12:00 - [97] - Quote I agree with the matchmaking issue. No one wants to play a game when the first 15 matches they have are 0/8 because the other sides have corp squads in all proto gear(edit, actually it's more than 15 matches). That's just bad business. I think the meta game is fine, but as you said there is no way for new players to ever stand a chance. There is no High sec in dust. It's essentially, "go negative until you have good enough gear to play competitively." I've never heard of anyone who enjoys losing all the time. Even if the game were the most fun fps ever, most people would quit if they consistently lost.
BattleCry1791 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 223	Posted - 2013.05.09 05:36:00 - [98] - Quote Far Fall wrote: I agree with the matchmaking issue. No one wants to play a game when the first 15 matches they have are 0/8 because the other sides have corp squads in all proto gear. That's just bad business. I think the meta game is fine, but as you said there is no way for new players to ever stand a chance. There is no High sec in dust. It's essentially, "go negative until you have good enough gear to play competitively." I've never heard of anyone who enjoys losing all the time. Even if the game were the most fun fps ever, most people would quit if they consistently lost. And maybe that's the problem Far. CCP just cannot figure out which way they want to deviate from EvE. Or if they are going to at all. There is no massive PVP in High Sec, and what we're all talking about is creating a High Sec PVP. That's really not how EvE works. At some point, there was this massive backlash in EvE when CCP emails were leaked out regarding 100 dollar monocles or something to that effect and the EvE community went berserk. CCP learned that their game was no longer really theirs and came to understand that EvE was about one thing...spaceships. To follow that logic, CCP wil lhave to come to understand that here, in the console FPS world, all that matters is PVP, and a fighting chance in that PVP. Something's gotta give.
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 7	Posted - 2013.05.09 15:34:00 - [99] - Quote i wouldnt go militia only, as some ppl have $$(SEVER RAVEN VALOR suits BPO'd) that would have no other world to play in but PROTO H+ïLL... a STD/MLT lvl would suffice... this would allow a DS or Tank to join... for stradegy based play. i remain firm in my original idea above, but if ONLY a singal game mode was added, i would gravitate more toward STD/MLT than MLT only... some may have SLIGHT advantage but it would also promote player growth... its the HOOK u need for new players... not 0-17 (if i try real hard... in 2 months, i can go 2-15!!!)
BattleCry1791 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 239	Posted - 2013.05.10 09:48:00 - [100] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: i wouldnt go militia only, as some ppl have $$(SEVER RAVEN VALOR suits BPO'd) that would have no other world to play in but PROTO H+ïLL... a STD/MLT lvl would suffice... this would allow a DS or Tank to join... for stradegy based play. i remain firm in my original idea above, but if ONLY a singal game mode was added, i would gravitate more toward STD/MLT than MLT only... some may have SLIGHT advantage but it would also promote player growth... its the HOOK u need for new players... not 0-17 (if i try real hard... in 2 months, i can go 2-15!!!) Anything is better than what we have.

ImpureMort Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:59:00 - [101] - Quote +1
LittleCuteBunny Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 9	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:38:00 - [102] - Quote they will never learn /trashbalance /staff baddies /prime bumblebee /caldari won /dead game


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