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Shijima Kuraimaru
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:23:00 -
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Wow. I must be a much better player than I thought. Last night I went in with militia assault and I broke even or went positive in most of the matches I played, even against high end geared people that were slaughtering me before. I actually had a chance! I guess having all that proto gear with SS5 made a huge difference for those I used to call Pro-Players.
Don't get me wrong, there are still Pro-Players out there and I respect their actual skill, but now it's harder for a mediocre or good player to artificially inflate their capabilities to appear as a pro player. Yes there are still some problems like the range/damage ubernerf after SS was removed, dropsuits not really fitting the lore of the races, and only have a few synergistic options, like the scout suit that gets bonuses with novas.
As we get more of the planned gear brought in, things will start falling into place and make more sense. As it is, we probably have less than half the gear that's planned. Hopefully they'll offer us optional respecs in the same manner that Eve pilots get a free neural remap and earn an extra one each year.
IMO... If you're a "Pro" and you're here complaining because you can't just blaze through committing wholesale slaughter of those in lower end gear like you did before this latest build, then you're not the "Pro" you think you are. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:14:00 -
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Mical Angelo wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:
IMO... If you're a "Pro" and you're here complaining because you can't just blaze through committing wholesale slaughter of those in lower end gear like you did before this latest build, then you're not the "Pro" you think you are.
Hope you're not talking to OP because I can assure you of his skill. He's not worried about not being able to pwn in pro gear. He's worried new players will be discouraged when encountering those that do. Honestly if I hadn't accumulated the SP I have now, and were new to this game, I would have walked into those 3 matches I had today with all proto gear + 2 tanks, and gotten a helluva a lot worse than 1 kdr. I might have just gotten zero, with a militia assault gun, unable to even scratch proto squads. This game is in full release in a week or so and all the new ppl who will join will DL Get PWNed Quit. We have the luxury of 6 million and up SP. New people have no matchmaking or other mechanics to save them from pub stomping. You can't adapt if you don't have time to live.
You have 6+ mil SP? Nice. I have a bit over 4 mil mostly speced into Hvy and FG. No AR or assault skills.
I wasn't saying anything about concern for new players. I can sympathize with that. But my point in this small part you focused on was, and you even quoted the line, here is the key part again... "If you're a "Pro" and you're here complaining because you can't just blaze through committing wholesale slaughter of those in lower end gear". |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:59:00 -
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Mical Angelo wrote:Yea and no one is complaining they can't slaughter with pro gear. I'm not complaining about not being able to pwn in pro gear, I use starter fits right now, OPs not complaining on his own behalf either. No one is complaining about inability to kill with proto gear. Because we can, we just don't.
However others do.
I can endure Proto pub stomping, but can new berries?
Hmmm. and yet I come back to " Last night I went in with militia assault and I broke even or went positive in most of the matches I played, even against high end geared people that were slaughtering me before. I actually had a chance!" Ok. So perhaps I also forgot to mention that I have no SP in ASLT suits or AR.
If I can do it, I'm sure there are others out there who can too. I think the problem is more the learning curve. I believe many new players come in from FPS games where lone wolf run and gun is the nature of the beast, while here in Dust that player will usually end up as a dead trooper. Dust doesn't reward that playstyle and I don't think they want to learn another playstyle. That's their choice and I don't hold it against them. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:58:00 -
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BattleCry1791 wrote:Travi Zyg wrote:BattleCry1791 wrote:Ghost InShell wrote:So if I understand this correct your angry that people that put more time into the game have better stuff then you have ?
and something about tank driving is bad.. Try to comprehend this....I'm concerned for the new blood coming in to this game. If there is no place for the militia guys to run around in and kill on each other, they will quit and this game will be the same 20, 000 or so playing it over and over on a daily basis. Once that 20K no longer ever needs to buy a merc pack or any other AUR items, the game dies and that's the end. Shiny? I dont think enough credit is given to the new berries. Ive had a few friends start very recently and are having a blast. They arent all as stupid as people think, on the contrary, a lot of the "big super elite blahblahblah" corps just think they are so above it all and treat new guys like **** and intentionally humiliate them...that's a bit more of a turn off to playing a new game than some people who have better gear than you. I'm sorry, have you ever actually PLAYED a FPS game in the last 10 years? Blue dots have actually made me give up on humanity as a whole. They are the most contemptuous lot of selfish, impractical, and idiotic miscreants I've ever come across. The next time you see a blue dot doing something that just confounds you, think of this...it's likely that blue dot drives, holds a job, and heaven help us, will likely bred if they haven't already. Terrifying....honestly terrifying.
Just remember that you're a blue dot to someone too. LOL |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:58:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Mical Angelo wrote:Yea and no one is complaining they can't slaughter with pro gear. I'm not complaining about not being able to pwn in pro gear, I use starter fits right now, OPs not complaining on his own behalf either. No one is complaining about inability to kill with proto gear. Because we can, we just don't.
However others do.
I can endure Proto pub stomping, but can new berries? Hmmm. and yet I come back to " Last night I went in with militia assault and I broke even or went positive in most of the matches I played, even against high end geared people that were slaughtering me before. I actually had a chance!" Ok. So perhaps I also forgot to mention that I have no SP in ASLT suits or AR. If I can do it, I'm sure there are others out there who can too. I think the problem is more the learning curve. I believe many new players come in from FPS games where lone wolf run and gun is the nature of the beast, while here in Dust that player will usually end up as a dead trooper. Dust doesn't reward that playstyle and I don't think they want to learn another playstyle. That's their choice and I don't hold it against them. STFU -3
There's a special bird just for you. LMAO |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
Orion Empire
198
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:05:00 -
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Straum Arjn wrote:Mical Angelo wrote:
PS I have no skill in AR either, and can easily rip through militia. Standard with Exile vs proto with duvolle. You ain't pulling that one off.
I almost did! Stupid no sidearm weapon with logi suits... :P
Actually I have pulled it off. Rather than just rushing head long into a hail of withering fire, I actually manage to flank them or get behind them while their attention is on other team mates. I came up behind a proto assault and a logi (not sure of tier). I was in a militia fit and took both of them while they were paying attention to a larger group of my team mates, on the other side of cover, in front of them. It can be done. |
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