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CaoticFox
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:41:00 -
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BattleCry1791 wrote:Ghost InShell wrote:So if I understand this correct your angry that people that put more time into the game have better stuff then you have ?
and something about tank driving is bad.. Try to comprehend this....I'm concerned for the new blood coming in to this game. If there is no place for the militia guys to run around in and kill on each other, they will quit and this game will be the same 20, 000 or so playing it over and over on a daily basis. Once that 20K no longer ever needs to buy a merc pack or any other AUR items, the game dies and that's the end. Shiny?
im one whom used my AURUM bought BPO's FULLY! no desire to use ADV or PRO... cuz i spent MY - "CASH" for my BPO's ... ive recruited from 5 dif FPS's to this game... 65 recruit... 65 diff ppl (no alts)... 1 is still here, and UPRISING is about to lose us both...
I WHOLHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH [ORIGINAL THREAD]... Here is the solution CCP... listen, ur about to learn something... "brackets" need me to repeat? how about an EQUIPMENT LVL CAP battle mode... MLT battle - rookie STD battle - casual ADV battle - difficult PRO battle - nightmare where n00bs can choose there poison
stop nerfing, and dumbing... segregate us... IT WILL GIVE PPL A REASON TO STRIVE TO BE BETTER... it WILL WORK! |
CaoticFox
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:45:00 -
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BattleCry1791 wrote:OK fanboys, here it is...
As my clanmate Indy put earlier in this thread...there's hundreds of issue specific threads out there already. Oh, you didn't know about the vehicle CPU/PG bug? Best gets to reading fanboi. And in order to list them all would have taken a book. The issues are well known to CCP and the last thing I have to do is go over all of them for the likes of the Carebear crowd. My intention was to put them all in one nice neat box with a bow.
But you want me to expand? Ok.
For all you simple minded gits out there with the "Adapt or Die" or "HTFU"....allow me this question. "Just who the **** do you think you're talking to?" If there is any group of players in the game that is the damned epitome of htfu or Adapt or Die it's members of PFBHz and the Imps/IE and a handful of other console FPS clans that had to figure out EvE in order to flourish here. If we're telling you "This is borked," guess what, it's freakin' Borked. We've seen this happen on other games and we don't want to see it happen here.
MAG was an abject failure in the end. It's why we don't play it anymore. One of it's largest failings was allowing 32 guys from one clan into a pub room against 32 randoms. Can you say pubstomp? Now, while that doesn't happen here in terms of numbers, it happens here in terms of gear. Saw it on MAG and I'm seeing it here...if you don't find a way to separate the new guys from the vets, you're going to see the new guys bail. That kills the playerbase and the pool of money to collect from. This is just commen sense from a business perspective.
As to tanking...right now, if you want to be safe from a tank, just get about 30 feet off the ground. We can't shoot up. Seriously. We can't shoot dropships. I call it a bug because I refuse to believe that CCP did this on purpose. I'd prefer to believe it's incompetence over flagrant breaking of a game mechanic. My dot will be on a guy on a second story platform and my shots are hitting the building 10 feet below him. HOW THE HELL DO YOU MISS THAT IN QA? Does anyone in CCP actually OWN a tank? And why change the rail gun spool? It wasn't broken.
Lastly, I'll talk about options and lack there of. If you wanna "b34st it up", if you want to lead on the leaderboard, then 90% of you will have to spec for proto assault, complex shield extenders, and either the Duvolle or Duvolle tactical. The Heavy is now a secondary role with it's new proto HMG damage being below that of the previous build's STD HMG. The MD just got nerfed. The laser, while needing a nerf on the proto got more taken out of it than it needed. And don't get me started on the lack of the other three racial heavy suits and two scout suits. Basically, you don't have options anymore. It's BoD514. And because everyone is shield tanked now, they even nerfed flux grenades. HUNDREDS of items we can put on our suits, and only one real path for domination. At least they nerfed the damn AV grenades.
There, now wipe those rainbows and stars off your bellies. You are not unique. You are not a beautiful snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else.
just read this... see my previous post... im with the 'bad guys' on this... (the SUPERMEN) |
CaoticFox
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:56:00 -
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i play many online games... Dragonfable, Forsakia, Adventure Quest, Chess, Golf... ALL OF THESE thrive & have segregational difficulty levels... so u can play against ppl/equip on the same level or near to U... even Sacred 2 had this option... and the online for THAT was horrific |
CaoticFox
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:10:00 -
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The Black Jackal wrote:They trialed the gear-checked Instant Battles in Closed Beta...
It flopped hard... the Prototype guys complained they had no one to pwn in their prototype gear, and they migrated down the line to standard / militia gear rooms anyway.
If you're going to QQ about something that makes the game challenging, or 'caters to newer players' (Oh, look, and Oxy-moronic statement). Do your research first, and find out if they have done something to attempt to address the self same issue.
i said equip CAP ... if the proto players wanna strap on STD suit, STD modules, STD weapons, STD equipment, and only use STD vehicles (or MLT variants of eack, but NO ADV or above), and pub stomp in equal or lesser gear... let them... no RAVEN with 2 complex shield mods... if a player is just better, he/she is just better... full gear/fit CAPS... ive done my research... this will work... only ppl who WONT like it are the ones who CANT play on EVEN terms... like... 'you maybe?'
i remember that build... in CLOSED BETA... LIMITED players... game releases soonTM... the whole games gonna flop... only EVE players, and a select few will remain... BF4, COD's, KZ4... WILL nudge this to a memory without the OPTION of equal playing field...
good thing we never (throughout history) tried again with a diff control group... we may have actually cured something |
CaoticFox
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Posted - 2013.05.07 17:18:00 -
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i remember when pistols wouldnt shoot across the street, im no n00b... ive been here throughout the worst... weve neared full circle |
CaoticFox
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Posted - 2013.05.08 01:06:00 -
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Mical Angelo wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:
IMO... If you're a "Pro" and you're here complaining because you can't just blaze through committing wholesale slaughter of those in lower end gear like you did before this latest build, then you're not the "Pro" you think you are.
Hope you're not talking to OP because I can assure you of his skill. He's not worried about not being able to pwn in pro gear. He's worried new players will be discouraged when encountering those that do. Honestly if I hadn't accumulated the SP I have now, and were new to this game, I would have walked into those 3 matches I had today with all proto gear + 2 tanks, and gotten a helluva a lot worse than 1 kdr. I might have just gotten zero, with a militia assault gun, unable to even scratch proto squads. This game is in full release in a week or so and all the new ppl who will join will DL Get PWNed Quit. We have the luxury of 6 million and up SP. New people have no matchmaking or other mechanics to save them from pub stomping. You can't adapt if you don't have time to live.
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CaoticFox
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Posted - 2013.05.08 01:09:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Mical Angelo wrote:Yea and no one is complaining they can't slaughter with pro gear. I'm not complaining about not being able to pwn in pro gear, I use starter fits right now, OPs not complaining on his own behalf either. No one is complaining about inability to kill with proto gear. Because we can, we just don't.
However others do. I can endure Proto pub stomping, but can new berries? Hmmm. and yet I come back to " Last night I went in with militia assault and I broke even or went positive in most of the matches I played, even against high end geared people that were slaughtering me before. I actually had a chance!" Ok. So perhaps I also forgot to mention that I have no SP in ASLT suits or AR. If I can do it, I'm sure there are others out there who can too. I think the problem is more the learning curve. I believe many new players come in from FPS games where lone wolf run and gun is the nature of the beast, while here in Dust that player will usually end up as a dead trooper. Dust doesn't reward that playstyle and I don't think they want to learn another playstyle. That's their choice and I don't hold it against them.
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:34:00 -
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i wouldnt go militia only, as some ppl have $$(SEVER RAVEN VALOR suits BPO'd) that would have no other world to play in but PROTO H+ïLL... a STD/MLT lvl would suffice... this would allow a DS or Tank to join... for stradegy based play. i remain firm in my original idea above, but if ONLY a singal game mode was added, i would gravitate more toward STD/MLT than MLT only... some may have SLIGHT advantage but it would also promote player growth... its the HOOK u need for new players... not 0-17 (if i try real hard... in 2 months, i can go 2-15!!!) |
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