LOL CCP SCREWED OVER CONSUMERS BY NOT HONORING THEIR TERMS OF PURCHASE

THEY SURE SHOWED US OP XDDDDddddD111!!@!@1 LE EPIK FAEC

LOL CCP SCREWED OVER CONSUMERS BY NOT HONORING THEIR TERMS OF PURCHASE

THEY SURE SHOWED US OP XDDDDddddD111!!@!@1 LE EPIK FAEC

Fair doesn't mean feasible to implement.

Why is this such a big deal? I bought a Merc pack and dont really care.

The deal we were offered included a full credit of Merc Pack contents on commercial reset, NOT contingent on a reset happening at that time, and NOT conditional on us accepting an individual reset of our characters.

That was also defined as THE ONLY OPTION FOR A REFUND. What we're being offered is definitely NOT what was agreed to by both the customers and CCP.

So, no, CCP didn't "cave" to our demands. And yes they should have. There are plenty of ACTUALLY fair ways to honour the agreement. There are even a whole bunch of great options that are "fair" on the late arrivals who chose not to spend a cent, or the early adopters who decided to play for free and got into closed beta by signing up instead of providing monetary support on top of their time testing the game.

EDIT: And I'm not sure how it's "fair" to retroactively change the conditions agreed to on people who were generous enough to pay CCP money in advance on a promise of some good gear while the game is still in close beta and not even 100% guaranteed to make it to open beta, let alone release.

@Ludvig Enraga, hmm. They didn't charge anyone for access to the Beta. Did someone scam you, Ludvig? Beta users were free to purchase the Merc Packs or not. I know many players that have never spent anything on the game as well as some that have spent a sizable amount. Near the end of the closed Beta Sony PS+ members were given Beta Keys for free. I got mine elsewhere many months before that and it was free as well. There wasn't even a Merc Pack available to buy when I started.

The terms of service from Sony PS Store are clear. As is the End User Agreement. The Legal claims are being made by persons that speak as if they have no experience with the law nor the legal system. IANAL should be the standard disclaimer on these topics.

The definition of the refund could have been clearer but first you have to realize that a character reset for everybody will cause many to leave. We have worked to get the SP and I don't want to give it back to just restart a cheap Merc Pack. I believe that this is a reasonable solution and indeed is the only solution that would satisfy all. Some will still be unhappy but they will have their chance to take the offer or not.

@Ludvig Enraga, hmm. They didn't charge anyone for access to the Beta. Did someone scam you, Ludvig? Beta users were free to purchase the Merc Packs or not. I know many players that have never spent anything on the game as well as some that have spent a sizable amount. Near the end of the closed Beta Sony PS+ members were given Beta Keys for free. I got mine elsewhere many months before that and it was free as well. There wasn't even a Merc Pack available to buy when I started.

The terms of service from Sony PS Store are clear. As is the End User Agreement. The Legal claims are being made by persons that speak as if they have no experience with the law nor the legal system. IANAL should be the standard disclaimer on these topics.

The definition of the refund could have been clearer but first you have to realize that a character reset for everybody will cause many to leave. We have worked to get the SP and I don't want to give it back to just restart a cheap Merc Pack. I believe that this is a reasonable solution and indeed is the only solution that would satisfy all. Some will still be unhappy but they will have their chance to take the offer or not.

A character reset for everybody will cause many to leave.

A character reset for Merc Pack users will force many who have already demonstrated a willingness to pay for the game to stop doing so.

I have one Merc Pack, and I bought one for my girlfriend when she showed interest in DUST.

After Uprising shows up, I've got some money I'm saving in case there's a different deal from the Merc Pack, because I want to see what options there are coming into release. If CCP decide to run with the current "offer" they're going with, I'm not losing enough to care. I'm just going to spend that money elsewhere. If they actually offer something valid within the context of what they agreed to give Merc Pack customers, then I'll definitely be spending more of my money immediately, as well as being open to spending even more in future.

Nice to see they went with my suggested solution to the issue. ;)

For this to be done right there needs to be a reset at commercial release and all merc packs and aur refunded.

They should have just replaced the booster and Aur with a nunch of useless neo suits

Still a **** move, but that would have been funnier.

Nice to see they ignored the legitimate complaints about your suggestion and haven't provided a solution that's remotely fair on people who actually read what we were purchasing.

Why?

For this to be done right, CCP need to pay attention to what they agreed to when they sold the pre-open beta Merc Packs. There's no need for a full reset. There are plenty of other valid options.

Buckets and buckets of tears~

Bought my merc packs and used them. I'm not greedy and really they are chump change for me. I will be earning more than what I will save if I just put the time I would use complaining into real life stuff.

So for all those illiterates, who are too slow to comprehend, those who just are too greedy for their own good and/or just plain stupid. SUCK IT!

CCP didn't pull one on you, you pulled one on your entitled self.

*IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted.

Because I shouldn't have to choose between my sp and aur/merc parks that i bought during the beta. It clearly said I would get it ALL back at commercial release. The best way is to reset the game and refund everybody. And another reason is because the game was in beta and 98% of the time when beta's ends everything is reset. Simple

So you're saying that you want them to wipe all the SP you've earned, when there are valid options that give Merc Pack customers a fair deal WITHOUT punishing everyone after we were all promised "no more resets"?

What part of "THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER VALID OPTIONS" did you not understand?

I want CCP to be held to the agreement they made with their customers.

It won't have a significant impact on me either way. If they stick to doing it wrong, I'll get all the AUR I spend on BPOs back, and then some (because I bought a lot before the price hike). If they do it right, I'll get pretty much exactly the same result. I want them to do it right because it's the right thing to do, NOT because it will have a significant effect on my personal situation.

There should be wipe at commercial release because we have been testing in a beta. So to get my aur/merc packs back i have to be punished?

The deal we were offered included a full credit of Merc Pack contents on commercial reset, NOT contingent on a reset happening at that time, and NOT conditional on us accepting an individual reset of our characters.

That was also defined as THE ONLY OPTION FOR A REFUND. What we're being offered is definitely NOT what was agreed to by both the customers and CCP.

So, no, CCP didn't "cave" to our demands. And yes they should have. There are plenty of ACTUALLY fair ways to honour the agreement. There are even a whole bunch of great options that are "fair" on the late arrivals who chose not to spend a cent, or the early adopters who decided to play for free and got into closed beta by signing up instead of providing monetary support on top of their time testing the game.

EDIT: And I'm not sure how it's "fair" to retroactively change the conditions agreed to on people who were generous enough to pay CCP money in advance on a promise of some good gear while the game is still in close beta and not even 100% guaranteed to make it to open beta, let alone release.

Fairness is something that doesn't exist in the real world and sure as **** doesn't exist in New Eden.

The deal is, the normal layman, if they were here from closed beta on, would understand that every refund was connected to a full SP reset of the character. It was not about KEEPING all gained SP and having those Merc Packs refunded. So that is fair if one were to take a moment, leave the bruised ego at the door, and be realizing of the trend that was set by our previous experiences with CCP.

On the other hand, all the QQ'ers want their cake and to eat it to, which as all of us knows is an impossibility.

SO, step away from the tablet of unreasonability and engage the brain for a moment.

THAT is ALL!

Here's what CCP agreed to, feel free to read it and try REALLY hard to actually understand all the words this time:

I know there are EULAs out there that will counter this especially since they did give an announcement during the last reset that it will be the last one and that includes the merc pack.

Besides, CCP already bent backwards giving you the option for an autumn reset. But also gave you the finger by resetting your SP :-p

I don't see the conundrum here. If they reset everyone at release who loses out? If they don't, who loses out there? All the ranting is just getting confusing now.

If I read the dev blog properly, if you bought merc packs or aurum, on May 6th you get to keep the items you bought which in short means you keep the SP. Why would anyone want a refund? If you go by what the terms of the agreement say, it says that you would be refunded upon respecs and commercial release. Taking this into account means you would lose the boosters that you used to gain SP, so refunding the packs would mean losing your extra Skill Points. So really, what is the fight over? Why would anyone want to lose their SP they grinded out?

Buy Merc Pack, with the understanding that the contents are to be credited back to you on release.

Play DUST for a while, and build a character who's a sniper.

Realise that you find sniping boring, but you named your character "Sniper McSnipey" and don't really want to be driving a Missile HAV with that character name.

Delete the character - Booster SP gone, Toxin and Dragonfly gone, and all your HK4Ms gone, and maybe half the AUR on gear you bought for the character. Start over fresh, COMFORTABLE IN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE GETTING ALL THAT DELETED GEAR BACK ON RELEASE.

Then the release day comes around, and... Nope. You only get your stuff back if you choose to sacrifice EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE SINCE CREATING YOUR NEW CHARACTER. All you keep is your name. Or you can keep your progress, but get none of your lost Merc Pack items.

But it's "fair", right? Because nobody can cheat the system and get double the Boosters. Who cares if there have been several other, better and more valid solutions suggested which would also prevent that from happening? CCP have decided to go with an option that shafts people with legitimate reasons to expect a reset (like "I actually read about what I was buying before spending my money", for example), and if you don't like it, HTFU.

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Uhhh... No. That's not what "legally binding agreement" means. And it's also not how "false advertising lawsuit" works.

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If you're going to offer a compromise, offer a COMPROMISE, not a way to shaft your customers.

The deal we were offered included a full credit of Merc Pack contents on commercial reset, NOT contingent on a reset happening at that time, and NOT conditional on us accepting an individual reset of our characters.

That was also defined as THE ONLY OPTION FOR A REFUND. What we're being offered is definitely NOT what was agreed to by both the customers and CCP.

So, no, CCP didn't "cave" to our demands. And yes they should have. There are plenty of ACTUALLY fair ways to honour the agreement. There are even a whole bunch of great options that are "fair" on the late arrivals who chose not to spend a cent, or the early adopters who decided to play for free and got into closed beta by signing up instead of providing monetary support on top of their time testing the game.

EDIT: And I'm not sure how it's "fair" to retroactively change the conditions agreed to on people who were generous enough to pay CCP money in advance on a promise of some good gear while the game is still in close beta and not even 100% guaranteed to make it to open beta, let alone release.

In that case, I would say that IF anyone bought items, then Activated those items, then proceeded to Delete their character (no matter what the reason is) then they indeed forfeit said Items on that character. Infact, when you redeem items on your character, it says those Items cannot be switched between new characters anyway, so in this case you should be entitled to nothing being re-imbersed in this scenario.

SIDE NOTE: CCP makes EVE Online, so most of the same mothods will apply here. All EVE players know (or at the very least should) that character DELETION is a bad idea, you lose everything, time, ISK, Assets, and Skills aquired. What THIS scenario demonstrates is the equivilant to someone playing EVE Online for a year, then deciding they don't like the play or that they skilled up wrong, then deleting the character and asking for the game time back. So The character deletion scenario is completely moot as a basis of argument.


Now as for anything els, I'm open, just lost. I have 3 characters on Dust. 2 experimental and a main, I've bought a few merc packs just for the value vs. Aurum. But I keep all my SP upon respec on May6th. Is this correct or am I reading all these posts wrong? Is I'm correct, then I don't need or want a refund. If I'm not, then I'd like to know where my thinking is flawed.

As mentioned, the description of the Merc Pack CLEARLY STATED that we'd get all the contents back on commercial release. There was nothing in the description of the pack which implied any kind of additional condition on the refund, and the wording implied that there WASN'T a reset coming with that final credit of the Merc Pack. Expecting the promised full credit is perfectly reasonable. Expecting us to have our progress wiped to get it is not. I'm fine with keeping boosted SP in place of Boosters if they've been used. I've got no problem with CCP saying you don't get back AUR that was spent on Boosters. It's fair to say, "Your boosted SP is being refunded. That's equal value to the Booster" and leave it at that. It's also fair to say "AUR you spend on Boosters is still there in the form of boosted SP" and not refund that portion of your AUR.

Nice to see they ignored the legitimate complaints about your suggestion and haven't provided a solution that's remotely fair on people who actually read what we were purchasing.

Isn't that what they are doing? You can get either the refund or the skills, right?

Nonsense, anyone in their right mind would have assumed there would be a reset on commercial release in order to have a level playing field upon game launch.

Since then, CCP has found a way not to have to do this -- by changing the skills and SP requirements -- and now they have OFFERED you the option of not resetting. However, if you want to do the reset/refund they will let you.

Cry me a freaking river.

Anyone who actually read and understood the purchase as it stood prior to open beta knows that "and" doesn't mean the same as "including" and that the wording used when I got my Merc Pack made a clear distinction that commercial release was independent of any reset, and that neither one required the other.

LOL. All of that off the word "and" huh? Keep trying and keep crying.

I find it funny that you're trying to defend CCP's decision to run with something that violates their own offer, and using your own failure to comprehend basic English as an argument.

Clearly stated that full refund will be given upon commercial release, not offered as an alternative to keeping earned sp. That being the case all I can see is a betrayal of trust, and there isn't any valid argument that indicates said betrayal is anything but wrong.

This thread makes me smile. I like how none of these entitled proles even mention that a refund hasn't happened so far without some form of reset. They argue the meaningless semantics of a EULA that is clearly against them in this case.

Well it obviously wasn't clear.............

I'll try explaining this again, please try and actually follow my point this time.

Very clear. http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/Malcolm_Nolasco/media/84408BE4-4B12-46FF-B09D-90EB0BF361D3-3593-000003042D57FE42_zpsdd8700e1.jpg.html

Either way you slice this up, it looks like people are wanting to be reimbersed all items and keep all the SP.

Im sure there is some math whiz with an algorythm of some kind to compute what I'm about to say.

I agree with you on the Booster/SP equivilancy idea. However, perhaps CCP is trying to be fair in this "Optional Reset". I say this becasue it can be argued that the boosters have been used. Since you can't trade them right now, it would make no sense to have a stock pile of them anyway. But the boosters give you a 50% bonus to your SP both active and passive. This equates to a SP Gained*1.5=X. Now the argument can be made that the SP you gained is increased soley by the skills and equipment you can use during a battle and that being responsible for more SP gain, where as you wouldn't have achieved with out SP being boosted. So in reality you only took a fraction of time, over time, to get to your current state.

For those with aching brains, lets put this into a simple equation. Im going to just use this as an example, No, the numbers won't be exactly accruate.

Say it takes 30 seconds to solo hack an installation without the hacking skill. To hack 10 installations will take 300 seconds. The hacking skill gives you a bonus of 5%. Say (Just for easier math here guys) it takes 200,000SP to get to lvl 5 Hacking which gives you a bonus of 25%. So we have here:

0SP: 10 installations hacked in 300 seconds totalling 500 War Points
200,000SP: 25% bonus= 13 installations hacked in (Under) 300 seconds totalling 650 War points
200,000SP + Proto Hack Module: 50% Bonus= 20 installations hacked in 300 seconds totalling 1000 War Points

Now (in this equation) with out boosters, you would need the whole 200,000 SP to reach Hacking 5. However with Boosters, that 50% bonus means you really only need 133,334SP to reach your 200,000SP mark, so you actually earn more SP in battle on top of the 50%SP boost.


So, in doing all this math, I think CCP is being rather fair in offering the reset. Otherwise you wouldn't have nearly 1/4 the skills that you do, (since you wouldn't have gotten to where you are with out better skills and eqipment in the first placeand it's OPTIONAL. Either way you slice it up, I still think they're being fair.

Very clear. http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/Malcolm_Nolasco/media/84408BE4-4B12-46FF-B09D-90EB0BF361D3-3593-000003042D57FE42_zpsdd8700e1.jpg.html

LOL. I have seen this too.

Some of you are trying to draw a distinction between resets and the commercial release. However, once again for the mentally deficient, the use of "and" is not generally meant to exclude something but to include something. The commercial release is being lumped into the list as a similar item -- not as something different.

Obviously, during development there will be resets and similarly upon commercial release.

Only, it turns out, the new SP revamp means we don't have to be reset. So, you can still choose the reset if you wish to - and now you are crying because those of us who don't want to choose the reset will keep our SP.

Blah blah blah. Cry away... my cup runneth over.

What I'm asking is for a refund of the OTHER Merc Pack items, and the Aurum spent on OTHER ITEMS. Things like the HK4M Shotguns, which I know a few people experimented with, "safe" in the knowledge that we were owed another refund of them. The Stimulants. The Fused Locus Grenades (which I'm hoping we get an ISK equivalent for in Uprising). Any Dragonfly or Toxin BPOs that got deleted. THOSE should be refunded without needing a full character reset.

The only thing that is clear in this is that CCP says it will credit your merc pack in full, but also says that some items can be changed. so maybe all this thread is for nothing, How many people will be upset if they give you everything but the booster?

LOL. I have seen this too.

Some of you are trying to draw a distinction between resets and the commercial release. However, once again for the mentally deficient, the use of "and" is not generally meant to exclude something but to include something. The commercial release is being lumped into the list as a similar item -- not as something different.

Obviously, during development there will be resets and similarly upon commercial release.

Only, it turns out, the new SP revamp means we don't have to be reset. So, you can still choose the reset if you wish to - and now you are crying because those of us who don't want to choose the reset will keep our SP.

Blah blah blah. Cry away... my cup runneth over.

Quite a while ago, CCP announced "no more resets", and in spite of people pressing them for confirmation that there wouldn't be a reset even though the Merc Pack promises a refund without requiring one, they kept saying "no more resets".

The only thing that is clear in this is that CCP says it will credit your merc pack in full, but also says that some items can be changed. so maybe all this thread is for nothing, How many people will be upset if they give you everything but the booster?

LOL. You are reinterpreting the legalese based on a later comment. It doesn't work that way.

CCP has come up with a way to OFFER us not to require a reset on commercial. Most of us are more than happy to take that OFFER. However, for those that are not they have left the option to reset and refund.

Make your choice and quit crying.

They specifically stated "no more resets". People asked about the Merc Pack refunds, and have been constantly asking for clarification, ever since, and they offered no answers, but maintained the claim that they wouldn't reset us "barring catastrophe". This isn't a catasrophe. It's a PR screw-up.

It doesn't matter what they "stated" later in relation to the interpretation of the Merc Pack legalese. I suspect the non-answers were something that people should have considered a little more carefully.

About this time people with mommy's for lawyers chimed in stating that CCP had better refund them or go to court and so forth. Frankly, I'm just happy they found a way to not force everyone to be reset. There never was any way that people would be able to get a refund without a reset.

Anyone with a brain understood that all along.

I understand you think it isn't fair that you'd have to give up SP to get a refund. Too bad. It's a done deal and we are all just waiting for the tears to stop flowing.

How many times do I have to point out that this doesn't actually affect me personally before you get it? Either way, I get what I want. I'm not losing anything by CCP not refunding the items I still have anyway.

I'm not crying, I'm laughing at your failure to understand the problem. Until it's actually DONE (at which point, I cancel my plans to give CCP any more money), it's not done.

The Merc Pack did NOT list a reset as a compulsory requirement for the refund. If it did, there would be no argument.

greedy scumbags. People who buy the merc pack after official release are getting only 1 set of the items containing in it. So why should we be different? And yes ive bought the merc pack in the closed beta aswell. And im not demanding a second merc pack for free cause its silly, ignorant and selfish. And to be honest i wont need it cause all the BPO's that i bought for 30 AUR a piece are now worth a fortune and i will get enough AUR tomorrow to supply myself 5 months worth off active and passive boosters. Thats more value then the mercpacks itself where worth. To be precise i get AUR worth probs over 100Gé¼+. So i made profit. So do the people who where aswell smat enough to buy all militia BPO's

We were assured of a full credit of Merc Pack contents on commercial release, with commercial release explicitly mentioned as different from a character reset.

Maybe you should look up the definition of explicit. Then reread the Merc Pack terms.

"At every character reset and commercial release" has no ambiguity in it. There's no implication that a character reset and commercial release are the same thing. It explicitly states that the two terms refer to different things. They aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is reliant on the other. I'm not sure what dictionary you're using, but maybe you need a better one?

Merc Pack refunds are reliant on EITHER condition, a reset OR commercial release is sufficient to satisfy the conditions under which the Merc Pack should be refunded. They didn't have to have a commercial release every time there was a reset. We shouldn't be forced to have a reset at commercial release - particularly not an individual character reset just for the people wanting their Merc Packs refunded.

They didn't, in any way, imply that commercial release is a reset, and by defining it separately within the Merc Pack terms, they implied that it's not one. That's an implication, not a direct statement. But they distinctly referred to commercial release and character reset as two different events, neither of which was bound to the other, and EITHER of which would offer - independently of the other - a refund of the Merc Pack.

Look, in reading the above it is very clear (to many) that there is certainly an implication present. The two events are clearly related in some way.

Yes, but again, you are assuming that a commercial release would not be expected to cause a reset. When there are resets without commercial releases it seems pretty likely that a commercial release would also require a reset. Who thought they'd get through beta and come out without some adjustment related to equalization?

I am not saying a commercial release IS a reset. The daftness is strong in you. I'm saying that you can't expect a commercial release without a reset. The fact that CCP found a way to offer a bonus to beta testers later on is simply a bonus.

Now, you don't have to go through a reset if you don't want to. You've been given a choice. Take it, leave it, or whine for eternity. The choice is yours.

One. The event's are clearly not related in anyway if they were related it would state in the terms of purchase agreement, and on commercial reset/release. But they never specified a reset at commercial within the contract.

Two. The agreement never said that the merc pack would be optional as stated before in another thread. If it would have said "optionally" it would of went something like, You shall obtain the merc pack at each character reset/wipe during the beta and
"optionally" at release. You see if they would have put optionally they would of had more room to wiggle out of this.

Three. They have already confirmed no more resets and clearly they are keeping to that statement. Still doesn't void the contract they need to honor.

Heh, let's start with the third point. It's meaningless. They are not bound to a forum post stating that they don't intend to do more resets.

Second, it doesn't matter if the Merc Pack stated every future option or not. Options can be provided to people so that they can either take the original offer or choose an option. There is nothing stopping any company from creating new options as they see fit.

Two meaningless arguments.

Your only hope is with the interpretation as per your first point. First, it is very clear that the points are related in some way. They are mentioned in the same sentence with the word AND between them. This doesn't happen without some type of relationship between the items.

So, if you take away events that happened well after people purchased the Merc Pack, as they have no bearing on the terms associated with it, we are left to consider what was expected at the time it was released. At that time I doubt many people felt that you would have a commercial release without a reset.

It was only after CCP suggested no more resets that people starting turning to their mommy lawyers and thinking they could put one over on CCP. The original terms of the agreement don't look as good now that time has passed and new information has come to light. You don't have to like it.

Look, in reading the above it is very clear (to many) that there is certainly an implication present. The two events are clearly related in some way.

Yes, but again, you are assuming that a commercial release would not be expected to cause a reset. When there are resets without commercial releases it seems pretty likely that a commercial release would also require a reset. Who thought they'd get through beta and come out without some adjustment related to equalization?

I am not saying a commercial release IS a reset. The daftness is strong in you. I'm saying that you can't expect a commercial release without a reset. The fact that CCP found a way to offer a bonus to beta testers later on is simply a bonus.

Now, you don't have to go through a reset if you don't want to. You've been given a choice. Take it, leave it, or whine for eternity. The choice is yours.

First just because the word AND is in a sentence has no proof of correlation. Saying AND brings them closer into a relationship is absurd. That's like saying "The house is green and the flower is purple" has some form of correlation.

Two. CCP assumed they would be doing the reset as well not my problem or anyone's problem for the matter of fact that they chose not to. If they were going to do it we wouldn't be doing a sp respec, Also I highly doubt they would reset after commercial release not a single successful company resets after commercial release it would always be before. If they did do the reset after commercial release then it was never meant to leave beta as the game is still flawed and is a huge failure on their part. And even if they assumed they would be doing a reset before commercial release before they stated no more resets, "Unless something major happens", The contract is still good and the refund on commercial release is good.

Third. It does matter if they state optionally you can not say and commercial release then slap someone with a optionally at full release that is called false advertising a product.

Nonsense. You are missing the point. If you buy something from me and I offer X later I can make a different offer later, say Y, and you can choose between X and Y. That's always allowed.

greedy scumbags. People who buy the merc pack after official release are getting only 1 set of the items containing in it. So why should we be different? And yes ive bought the merc pack in the closed beta aswell. And im not demanding a second merc pack for free cause its silly, ignorant and selfish. And to be honest i wont need it cause all the BPO's that i bought for 30 AUR a piece are now worth a fortune and i will get enough AUR tomorrow to supply myself 5 months worth off active and passive boosters. Thats more value then the mercpacks itself where worth. To be precise i get AUR worth probs over 100Gé¼+. So i made profit. So do the people who where aswell smat enough to buy all militia BPO's