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Denial Mystic A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 0	Posted - 2013.05.05 08:27:00 - [1] - Quote I don't see the conundrum here. If they reset everyone at release who loses out? If they don't, who loses out there? All the ranting is just getting confusing now. If I read the dev blog properly, if you bought merc packs or aurum, on May 6th you get to keep the items you bought which in short means you keep the SP. Why would anyone want a refund? If you go by what the terms of the agreement say, it says that you would be refunded upon respecs and commercial release. Taking this into account means you would lose the boosters that you used to gain SP, so refunding the packs would mean losing your extra Skill Points. So really, what is the fight over? Why would anyone want to lose their SP they grinded out?
Denial Mystic A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 0	Posted - 2013.05.05 08:55:00 - [2] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Denial Mystic wrote: I don't see the conundrum here. If they reset everyone at release who loses out? If they don't, who loses out there? All the ranting is just getting confusing now. If I read the dev blog properly, if you bought merc packs or aurum, on May 6th you get to keep the items you bought which in short means you keep the SP. Why would anyone want a refund? If you go by what the terms of the agreement say, it says that you would be refunded upon respecs and commercial release. Taking this into account means you would lose the boosters that you used to gain SP, so refunding the packs would mean losing your extra Skill Points. So really, what is the fight over? Why would anyone want to lose their SP they grinded out? Buy Merc Pack, with the understanding that the contents are to be credited back to you on release. Play DUST for a while, and build a character who's a sniper. Realise that you find sniping boring, but you named your character "Sniper McSnipey" and don't really want to be driving a Missile HAV with that character name. Delete the character - Booster SP gone, Toxin and Dragonfly gone, and all your HK4Ms gone, and maybe half the AUR on gear you bought for the character. Start over fresh, COMFORTABLE IN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE GETTING ALL THAT DELETED GEAR BACK ON RELEASE. Then the release day comes around, and... Nope. You only get your stuff back if you choose to sacrifice EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE SINCE CREATING YOUR NEW CHARACTER. All you keep is your name. Or you can keep your progress, but get none of your lost Merc Pack items. But it's "fair", right? Because nobody can cheat the system and get double the Boosters. Who cares if there have been several other, better and more valid solutions suggested which would also prevent that from happening? CCP have decided to go with an option that shafts people with legitimate reasons to expect a reset (like "I actually read about what I was buying before spending my money", for example), and if you don't like it, HTFU. ... Uhhh... No. That's not what "legally binding agreement" means. And it's also not how "false advertising lawsuit" works. If you're going to offer a compromise, offer a COMPROMISE, not a way to shaft your customers. In that case, I would say that IF anyone bought items, then Activated those items, then proceeded to Delete their character (no matter what the reason is) then they indeed forfeit said Items on that character. Infact, when you redeem items on your character, it says those Items cannot be switched between new characters anyway, so in this case you should be entitled to nothing being re-imbersed in this scenario. SIDE NOTE: CCP makes EVE Online, so most of the same mothods will apply here. All EVE players know (or at the very least should) that character DELETION is a bad idea, you lose everything, time, ISK, Assets, and Skills aquired. What THIS scenario demonstrates is the equivilant to someone playing EVE Online for a year, then deciding they don't like the play or that they skilled up wrong, then deleting the character and asking for the game time back. So The character deletion scenario is completely moot as a basis of argument.
Denial Mystic A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 0	Posted - 2013.05.05 10:32:00 - [3] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: As mentioned, the description of the Merc Pack CLEARLY STATED that we'd get all the contents back on commercial release. There was nothing in the description of the pack which implied any kind of additional condition on the refund, and the wording implied that there WASN'T a reset coming with that final credit of the Merc Pack. Expecting the promised full credit is perfectly reasonable. Expecting us to have our progress wiped to get it is not. I'm fine with keeping boosted SP in place of Boosters if they've been used. I've got no problem with CCP saying you don't get back AUR that was spent on Boosters. It's fair to say, "Your boosted SP is being refunded. That's equal value to the Booster" and leave it at that. It's also fair to say "AUR you spend on Boosters is still there in the form of boosted SP" and not refund that portion of your AUR. Isn't that what they are doing? You can get either the refund or the skills, right?
Denial Mystic A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 0	Posted - 2013.05.05 11:51:00 - [4] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I'll try explaining this again, please try and actually follow my point this time. This is a bit extreme, I think I've been more civil then others, I am trying to find your logic, and I partly agree with what your asking for. I edited my last post though, and I stick with CCP on this. I think they're being fair since you actually get and exponential boost in SP the more you use it
Denial Mystic A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 0	Posted - 2013.05.05 12:05:00 - [5] - Quote Stexn byd wrote: Very clear. http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/Malcolm_Nolasco/media/84408BE4-4B12-46FF-B09D-90EB0BF361D3-3593-000003042D57FE42_zpsdd8700e1.jpg.html The only thing that is clear in this is that CCP says it will credit your merc pack in full, but also says that some items can be changed. so maybe all this thread is for nothing, How many people will be upset if they give you everything but the booster?

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