Here is the problem. It is not a fair deal for all because when the purchase was made the deal was at commercial release all merc packs purchased would be credited in full. People purchased them with the knowledge that when CCP put the game into commercial release all of those items would be refunded to them. Now CCP is reneging on their own terms of purchase, and if I had purchased a merc pack under the original terms of purchase I would be pissed as well.

Wait so you get the option to either - get all your "real money" purchases back, and being reset to how you were before you bought them - or you get to keep the way you are now with the stuff you paid and used being gone... how on earth is that bully?

Oh right you wanted eat the cake and keep it. Gotcha!

Or what am I not getting here?

/c

NO....IT....WASN'T. The disclaimer was just that, a disclaimer. It specifically stated that they MAY have to reset chars during the beta and that any aur used would at that point would be refunded in the case of a reset. The statement also signifies that they MAY do a char reset on commercial release and under those circumstances they would also reset the AUR. People are picking out one little part of the disclaimer which must been taken as a whole and trying to argue based on that fact that CCP guaranteed a refund when they did no such thing. I've been saying all along no refund without char reset. Looks like I was right.

Oh and before you try and say I am just whining because I didn't take advantage I bought 2 merc packs before the change. I knew immediately what the disclaimer meant when i read it and used my AUR accordingly.

Oh and before you try and say I am just whining because I didn't take advantage I bought 2 merc packs before the change. I knew immediately what the disclaimer meant when i read it and used my AUR accordingly.

. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release.

And for the. Those are very descriptive words used there. Let's think about this, and for the. What do you think those words mean? Because to me I get the notion that when DUST 514 goes into commercial release the merc packs purchased would be refunded as per the terms of purchase. And for the record, that is the terms of purchase that was agreed upon when people bought the merc pack. And for the record CCP is now reneging on their terms of purchase, which to me is bad business and really hurts their credibility in the long run.

How do we know they won't try this tactic again in the future when it would suit their needs? Well my solution is simple, I simply will not buy any more AUR from CCP for DUST.

Yup, they just lost me as a customer in both games.

Real bummer, Uprising seems fun, but I won't do business with a company that intentionally screws it's customers.

I cannot believe you actually played the Bully card on the people who supported you with their time and money.

Yup, they just lost me as a customer in both games.

Real bummer, Uprising seems fun, but I won't do business with a company that intentionally screws it's customers.

They didn't screw you over, you just have terrible reading comprehension.

Yup, they just lost me as a customer in both games.

Real bummer, Uprising seems fun, but I won't do business with a company that intentionally screws it's customers.

I don't think you read very well.

The credit is based on there being a reset -- all that CCP has done is say that your character reset is optional.

How much QQing are people going to do for not being able to pull one over on CCP?

Good riddance?

It's cut and dry. The decision they made shows that they agree with me, they just want to bully us into resets. Why, I have no idea, but it's absolutely disgusting.

And again you are taking one part of the entire disclaimer out of context. This is where the issue comes from. When reading the disclaimer you have to take the whole thing as one statement and the whole disclaimer is about character resets and the jist of the disclaimer is this: During beta we MAY have to reset characters, if we reset characters all contents of merc pack will be refunded. We MAY also reset on commercial release and at that time contents of merc pack will be refunded.

As soon as I read the disclaimer this is what I understood. Besides that what kind of ****** up logic is someone using to think that CCP would let you use all of the consumable items in the Merc pack and then just refund you the consumables again without a reset.

The problem with your argument is you are arguing from the point of post-change terms of purchase. Which I have no problem with and I purchased a few merc packs under those terms and I am not asking for a refund for them.

a lot of classy people here, it's gonna be hard to leave.

No I'm talking about the original terms, which I bought 2 merc packs under. Again take the disclaimer as a whole and it means merc pack refunds only on char reset, whether that is during beta or on commercial release. Also the disclaimer specifically says they MAY reset, not that they will.

Well you are just lying then because those are not the original terms as I have read them and even posted them verbatim on these forums.

It is cut and dry, but not how you think. Check post #69 to see why.

Yes, QQing is very classy isn't it?

I'm crying, and not getting what I want, now I'm going to stamp my foot and threaten to leave.

Maybe you should hold your breath until you turn blue?

I bought something, and now they are holding all of the game time I've spent playing as ransom to get the thing I bought. It's absolutely despicable.

Just remember, CCP is perfectly comfortable selling you an in-game item and then AFTER you purchase it telling you that you'll have to take a full character reset to receive the items. With this precedent now set I can't see why anyone in their right mind would spend money with CCP.

The wording is an issue. I think CCP knows its an issue. The choice that people need to make is that you only get one or the other.

I firmly believe that if the dust mercs banded together in a class action lawsuit we could easily get all of the AUR refunded. I don't think it would even make it in front of a judge before it was settled. However the end result would be a full reset.

I did not anticipate getting my AUR back because I was told I wouldn't be reset again. I honestly don't think anyone did. If AUR gets fully refunded there has to be a reset.

It's a no win situation for CCP. I wouldn't want my SP taken away in order to balance a partial refund either.

I think it would be a nice compromise for everyone if there were a month long non booster market holiday for AUR items though. Although I'm not sure how they'd limit stocking up a million items.

Maybe a show of good faith would be some percentage of AUR spent being refunded.

I was pretty harsh in my previous statement in his thread. I think it comes from desperately not wanting a reset. Every time I read the Merc pack language it makes me cringe.

I don't think the way they are dealing with it with this choice is going to legally satisfy this issue. If this were a negotiation I'd have to reject this proposal and ask for 75% of AUR spent per Merc to be refunded and wait for their response.