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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:49:00 -
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I'm kinda finished with this whole heavies are worthless thing. Seeing and hearing heavies gonna switch roles to something else pretty much says it all.
But a serious question to the community...heavy haters and all. Was the damage nerf needed? I mean, I understand the range was part of all the "Heavies are OP" threads, but a damage nerf WITH a range nerf?!!
Seems overkill. We're talking about a minigun here basically. A dude in a fat suit, holding a ******* minigun. Let's forget about real life here for a second, cuz in real life those things have range.
Balance > Realism
The role is suppose to be defense / area denial / choke points. How is the role filled now, when the dmg and range has been nerfed? Can't an Assault player do the same job? Put down a nanohive, spam nades, and shoot his AR. Doesn't that seem viable? A logi can rep him the same way he can a heavy.
Just pointing out, that nerfing the damage on a HEAVY MACHINE GUN was not needed when the range was nerfed too. Yeah we got an HP buff... cool, but i would have gladly kept the same HP I have now if it meant I have the same dmg though, but w/e.
This is really disappointing. I guess all the haters can rejoice. I applaud your efforts on the forums. Game well played. I won't be making another thread on the matter. This disappointment only shows me that CCP doesn't care about heavies.
See you out there on the battlefield.
Oh, feel free to troll and laugh... I can use a couple good laughs  |
Big miku
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:51:00 -
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Roll Logi with me bro.
Logi for life. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:51:00 -
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Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP? |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:53:00 -
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Go logi with me so we can farm these assault players for points  |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:53:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP?
Oh right... like how they "nerfed" missiles lol.
Yea i'm waiting and seeing. Never said I changed roles. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:54:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP?
Gives random numbers, doesn't even understand what kind of impact those numbers make  |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:56:00 -
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Less range, lower base damage, AND the loss of two potential damage mods.
Sounds fair, right?
lol.
Yea, the HMG can go **** itself. There were already superior options, now it's just worthless. EVE is so lucky that it has a guy like soundwave who actually has a realistic idea of what things in his game actually do. This clearly isn't the case for Dust. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:58:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP? Gives random numbers, doesn't even understand what kind of impact those numbers make
I don't know if you realize what one meter is, but it's insignificant. If you were referring to the one damage point, I think you should be so lucky that they only took off one point of damage. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:01:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Less range, lower base damage, AND the loss of two potential damage mods.
Sounds fair, right?
lol.
Yea, the HMG can go **** itself. There were already superior options, now it's just worthless. EVE is so lucky that it has a guy like soundwave who actually has a realistic idea of what things in his game actually do. This clearly isn't the case for Dust.
Hey, Assault players are happy. That's all that matters bro.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:01:00 -
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CCP did go a little far with the nerf. There is no reason to nerf the HMG...both range nor damage. Wiithout the SS skill, the HMG range was fine.
I definitely don't agree ......and I don't like heavies |
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:02:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP? Gives random numbers, doesn't even understand what kind of impact those numbers make I don't know if you realize what one meter is, but it's insignificant. If you were referring to the one damage point, I think you should be so lucky that they only took off one point of damage.
lol w/e man 
Edit: they should bring down ARs to 29 damage per shot while they're at it. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:05:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Logi Bro wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP? Gives random numbers, doesn't even understand what kind of impact those numbers make I don't know if you realize what one meter is, but it's insignificant. If you were referring to the one damage point, I think you should be so lucky that they only took off one point of damage. lol w/e man Edit: they should bring down ARs to 29 damage per shot while they're at it.
You want the forum to crash?!!!! The amount of crying that will be seen here would be stuff even EVE will take note of. |
Boomer Dues Mortis
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:05:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:CCP did go a little far with the nerf. There is no reason to nerf the HMG...both range nor damage. Wiithout the SS skill, the HMG range was fine.
I definitely don't agree ......and I don't like heavies
+1, I could handle a nerf to maybe one of them but both is just uncalled for. |
KryptixX
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:06:00 -
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Gallente Logi ftw. Say goodbye to my 6.5 kdr.  |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:08:00 -
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Heavy is trash now.... cant wait to see the fat man eat flaylocks, lasers, scramblers, mass drivers.....
CCP logic = " so the heavy needs to be nerfed."
Other dev " why?"
"Well im not really sure why but apparently it can tickle people at 90 meters"
Other dev "huh... we could nerf range movement speed and dmg....."
" hey great idea! That way they cant shoot medium range, or deal mediocre dmg and they cant even move fast enough to engage people because they are slower...."
Other dev " yes.... I think we fixed it..."
" but dont you think they will be mad?"
Other dev " who cares most of our money comes from the AR assault player base... so screw the fatties." |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:14:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:Heavy is trash now.... cant wait to see the fat man eat flaylocks, lasers, scramblers, mass drivers.....
CCP logic = " so the heavy needs to be nerfed."
Other dev " why?"
"Well im not really sure why but apparently it can tickle people at 90 meters"
Other dev "huh... we could nerf range movement speed and dmg....."
" hey great idea! That way they cant shoot medium range, or deal mediocre dmg and they cant even move fast enough to engage people because they are slower...."
Other dev " yes.... I think we fixed it..."
" but dont you think they will be mad?"
Other dev " who cares most of our money comes from the AR assault player base... so screw the fatties."
Screw the minority to please the masses. Logic. |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:18:00 -
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Nerfing range was only needed when SS was still in. Without SS there was no reason for a range nerf but now nerfing dmg was just unnecessary. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:18:00 -
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ARbears rejoice, for CCP giveth, and CCP taketh away |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:19:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Heavy is trash now.... cant wait to see the fat man eat flaylocks, lasers, scramblers, mass drivers.....
CCP logic = " so the heavy needs to be nerfed."
Other dev " why?"
"Well im not really sure why but apparently it can tickle people at 90 meters"
Other dev "huh... we could nerf range movement speed and dmg....."
" hey great idea! That way they cant shoot medium range, or deal mediocre dmg and they cant even move fast enough to engage people because they are slower...."
Other dev " yes.... I think we fixed it..."
" but dont you think they will be mad?"
Other dev " who cares most of our money comes from the AR assault player base... so screw the fatties." Screw the minority to please the masses. Logic.
That does make sense actually lol |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:30:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Heavy is trash now.... cant wait to see the fat man eat flaylocks, lasers, scramblers, mass drivers.....
CCP logic = " so the heavy needs to be nerfed."
Other dev " why?"
"Well im not really sure why but apparently it can tickle people at 90 meters"
Other dev "huh... we could nerf range movement speed and dmg....."
" hey great idea! That way they cant shoot medium range, or deal mediocre dmg and they cant even move fast enough to engage people because they are slower...."
Other dev " yes.... I think we fixed it..."
" but dont you think they will be mad?"
Other dev " who cares most of our money comes from the AR assault player base... so screw the fatties." Screw the minority to please the masses. Logic. That does make sense actually lol
Yip, that's what governments do all the time.
But as I stated above, Balance > realism. It's a game.
They're screwing a class over to please another class. Why not just take the class out of the game, or take the HMG out? I thought this was suppose to be a game of varied roles? Seems to me it's becoming more 1 dimensional. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:31:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP?
lolCCP and numbers. We're lucky we got patch notes. |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:35:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP?
The Damage was the only thing that made the heavy play able |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:36:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Do you have specific numbers? For all you know the range was nerfed by 1 meter and damage by 1 point. How about you wait til you play the build to decide what you think is OP and UP? lolCCP and numbers. We're lucky we got patch notes.
We're lucky WHEN we get patch notes..... |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:41:00 -
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Unnerf it CCP |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:43:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Unnerf it CCP
Not gonna happen. # of Assault player > # of Heavies
#'s = money. More Assault players happy, the more money |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:48:00 -
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Heavy solo != win.
Heavy in group or against vehicles == iWin button.
Heavies need to play their role and they will do just fine. Or perhaps... I dunno, maybe start doing AV? HP buff, HMG nerf... seems obvious to me. Tired of having to take up heavy slack and do AV myself as a glass cannon assault player. |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:48:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Unnerf it CCP Not gonna happen. # of Assault player > # of Heavies #'s = money. More Assault players happy, the more money
Now there is no reason to play heavy, thank AR |
Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:49:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Hey, Assault players are happy. That's all that matters bro.
:*(
Hollow M Ling wrote:Nerfing range was only needed when SS was still in. Without SS there was no reason for a range nerf but now nerfing dmg was just unnecessary.
Exactly. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:52:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Heavy solo != win.
Heavy in group or against vehicles == iWin button.
Heavies need to play their role and they will do just fine. Or perhaps... I dunno, maybe start doing AV? HP buff, HMG nerf... seems obvious to me. Tired of having to take up heavy slack and do AV myself as a glass cannon assault player.
Oh look, it's the clueless heavy troll. Let me read his fail...
looooool... bro, just stop. Your heavy comments are getting worse every time. Whenever you see a thread about heavies and I'm the OP, just don't comment, please. Your trolls are weak and at this point, pathetic. You always have the same misinformed info to regurgitate. I saw you comment on another thread about HMG's being more accurate than AR's...again.
If you don't know how to control recoil on an AR by now, you're an idiot. You're also not considering the bullet spread of an HMG. Everytime you make this argument I'll call you an idiot. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:57:00 -
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1. Spec into heavy suits
2. Get a friend to spec into logi suits
3............
4. Profit!
I know what you are thinking. "Why should I need a second person to make my suit playable?" Because logi's need you just as much as you need them. |
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