Also, 17-5 with Heavy and Gek. Type 2 all standard, killing Proto's like it's nothing.

Seriously, they're complaining about SS being taken out of the game, even though they knew it was never meant to be in the game to begin with.

You have ridiculous amounts of HP.

I'm tired of you guys. You have ridiculous amounts of HP, yet are crying. Stop relying on the HMG as a crutch. The Heavy is a monster in it's class. In Uprising you've been given more HP.

The HMG was OP at a high range. When it can destroy you from up on top of the mid platform on the 4 point map, its fine.

The ONLY buff you needed was a module slot in the prototype and maybe advanced tiers.

Honestly, ask any infantry player, and they will tell you, that a Heavy is the most annoying class to face. Of course proto duvolles will kill you as range. Of course you will destroy them within 15 m.


Heavy's will never be as strong as they once were. You guys mulched down everyone when people were in the early stages. Now you're crying cause they hurt back.


Also, 17-5 with Heavy and Gek. Type 2 all standard, killing Proto's like it's nothing.

Sit the **** down Icy Tiger, geez. Complaining about people complaining when they have a completely viable reason to complain.

The Caldari logi can have 750 EHP with just 5 shield extenders and passives alone

Oh, how I do love my Flux Grenades.

I'm sticking through the patch as a dedicated Heavy, but I'll have to see exactly how bad HMG is getting nerfed before I decided to switch to AR or something else. In my opinion, HMG should have lost all range extension skills, and that's it.

By the way, odd side effect of the suit/weapon price equalization:

HMG Heavy is going to go from the most expensive suit to field to the cheapest.

Why? Having fewer slots means less ISK to lose per death, since suit and weapon cost will be the same.

Weird, eh?

75 base HP increase and the AR CoD fanboys think that means it's OK to take our most iconic weapon and break it


if you haven't played as a heavy, STFU

Stfu you and Dark cloud make Seraphim look amazing every time you post.

Lol so mad! were mad right guys? look at this post. I got a good question for you icy. Do you play heavy? 2 days ago i skilled into a type 2 standard assult class with 413 sheilds and a gek with no sharpshooter, damage mods, or profficentcy and that suit and class is the monster, i cant belive how good you assult classes have it its ****** easy mode OP. Stop your crying about heavys being good enough already their not compared to upper tier assult/logi suits. The biggist thing that seperates the classes are the skill levels. I go very many kills and deaths as a heavy every game. ppl know. Now this assult suit? this standard assult, this is the ****. I hardly everrr die. Ever! and the gek is so crazy in any situation after playing as both its plain to see the assult suit and AR is simply better. Period. I understand why this game ONLY promotes assults and nerfs everything else EVERY new build. Because the only class you should be playing is assult

Before you scrubs accuse me of something, I play Scout. I can still probably take on any of you in a 1 v 1.

Scouts are ridiculous. Yet, we've adapted. Yesterday, I was in an ambush. People were all crowded up in this one room, and it was a standoff. So I ran behind them, sprayed in my Creo Shotgun and picked up 11 kills.

For every good Assault, there's 50 bad ones that you don't notice because you just wipe through them.


However, even a militia Heavy can hold off a point against up to 3 guys on his own.

Bet you guys felt pretty good wiping the floor with militia players, now you can't pull your own weight.

LOLOLOL basing your opinion on Pubs

Come up against me or any decent player and say AR is easymode.

Heavies are not slayers. It will never happen... ever. Your role is to hold down objectives with support. You do it better than any other class. Of course the Assault role is going to be better at running and gunning because that is our role.

but that goes away in a flash thanks to the duvolle AR that can deal damage faster than a proto HMG.

As true as it is - it feels like I've been lied to by CCP. I went heavy cause I want a fat slow guy whose good at killing. Nope - I get a fat slow guy whose good at camping. -.-

Except, that isn't true.

Within optimal range, Duvolle AR DPS is 539.21
Within optimal range, Basic HMG DPS is 674.67

If you died to a Duvolle straight up, it's because he juked better or you didn't get him in your optimal range.

Don't get me wrong, I play heavy exclusively, I die to Duvolles plenty, and I'm chafing at the patch notes too. But let's say things that are accurate, k?

(And if you mention damage mods, I'm going to have to whip out the hardcore math spanking.)

40-
66% of HMG rounds miss at 40m. how many assult rounds miss?

40- 66% of HMG rounds miss at 40m. how many assult rounds miss?

You're comparing me to.. Dark Cloud?!
I'm.. well.. Thank you <3

but seriously, bitching about people bitching? Settle down cubs.

Damm Jason you should be in the CPM
Maybe you could give heavies and especially tanks to the place where they need to be.
on topic though ok heavies get a buff very nice now maybe one extra slot for the proto heavy and maybe just a bit more base armor. Given that logis maybe also get the ability to field repair tools that give more than 100 hp/s will also make heavies more viable in battle. So heavies are definitely close.

On the weapon side heavies where intended to fight tanks right. not infantry and when firing a hip fired weapon you can't really expect a lot of accuracy.