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Gelan Corbaine
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:51:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:
LOLOLOL basing your opinion on Pubs
Come up against me or any decent player and say AR is easymode.
Heavies are not slayers. It will never happen... ever. Your role is to hold down objectives with support. You do it better than any other class. Of course the Assault role is going to be better at running and gunning because that is our role.
Soooo .....you believe that heavies should start getting war points for suppression fire . Right ? Right? I mean it's not like we can get WP from the team resupply nanohives we carry, or drop uplinks , or revive people , or heal . It's not like we are effective hacking things. The only things we get war points for is killing things....yet you say we should not be killers.
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...... how are we supposed to make money again ?
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Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:53:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:Den-tredje Baron wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Sit the **** down Icy Tiger, geez. Complaining about people complaining when they have a completely viable reason to complain. Stfu you and Dark cloud make Seraphim look amazing every time you post. You're comparing me to.. Dark Cloud?! I'm.. well.. Thank you <3 but seriously, bitching about people bitching? Settle down cubs. Damm Jason you should be in the CPM Maybe you could give heavies and especially tanks to the place where they need to be. on topic though ok heavies get a buff very nice now maybe one extra slot for the proto heavy and maybe just a bit more base armor. Given that logis maybe also get the ability to field repair tools that give more than 100 hp/s will also make heavies more viable in battle. So heavies are definitely close. On the weapon side heavies where intended to fight tanks right. not infantry and when firing a hip fired weapon you can't really expect a lot of accuracy. If their not expected to fight infantry why did CCP give them a giant ******* minigun?
Its a support weapon. Its not an 'on point' style weapon as the Assault Rifle's are. I am sure we will still see plenty of minigun kills. |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:54:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:
LOLOLOL basing your opinion on Pubs
Come up against me or any decent player and say AR is easymode.
Heavies are not slayers. It will never happen... ever. Your role is to hold down objectives with support. You do it better than any other class. Of course the Assault role is going to be better at running and gunning because that is our role.
Soooo .....you believe that heavies should start getting war points for suppression fire . Right ? Right? I mean it's not like we can get WP from the team resupply nanohives we carry, or drop uplinks , or revive people , or heal . It's not like we are effective hacking things. The only things we get war points for is killing things....yet you say we should not be killers. ....... ...... how are we supposed to make money again ? Plant flowers? But really we heavies can only kill for points, we at least need to be good at that.
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Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
184
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:56:00 -
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Hollow M Ling wrote:The Bad: The new suit is as slow as they type 1 (not a big deal), 1 high slot, damage and range nerf.
Okay... now I'm worried.
What's the source on this? |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:56:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:Its a support weapon. Its not an 'on point' style weapon as the Assault Rifle's are. I am sure we will still see plenty of minigun kills.
"support weapon" really *****? It is made for eating people up a bit closer than an AR can. So you say HMGs are for distracting while the real killers, AR users, can snatch the kills? Oh boy. |
Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:00:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:slypie11 wrote:Den-tredje Baron wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:
Stfu you and Dark cloud make Seraphim look amazing every time you post.
You're comparing me to.. Dark Cloud?! I'm.. well.. Thank you <3 but seriously, bitching about people bitching? Settle down cubs. Damm Jason you should be in the CPM Maybe you could give heavies and especially tanks to the place where they need to be. on topic though ok heavies get a buff very nice now maybe one extra slot for the proto heavy and maybe just a bit more base armor. Given that logis maybe also get the ability to field repair tools that give more than 100 hp/s will also make heavies more viable in battle. So heavies are definitely close. On the weapon side heavies where intended to fight tanks right. not infantry and when firing a hip fired weapon you can't really expect a lot of accuracy. If their not expected to fight infantry why did CCP give them a giant ******* minigun? Its a support weapon. Its not an 'on point' style weapon as the Assault Rifle's are. I am sure we will still see plenty of minigun kills.
^^^^^^ I think someone else answered your question HMG heavy (with a bit more ehp and a logi or 2 repping him) are awesome at bursting into a room firing all over the place like a maniac and killing people. HMG = closer range (didn't say CQC) AR's and SR's are much more versatile. |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:02:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Hollow M Ling wrote:The Bad: The new suit is as slow as they type 1 (not a big deal), 1 high slot, damage and range nerf. Okay... now I'm worried. What's the source on this? DMG and range nerf to HMG. If you look around there's some videos or posts showing the proto heavies current stats. |
Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:19:00 -
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Hollow M Ling wrote:DMG and range nerf to HMG. If you look around there's some videos or posts showing the proto heavies current stats.
HMG Changes I could argue the merits of if they're mild on the damage side, but mucking with the slot layout is baffling to me.
I wonder if it's just to Amarr Heavy suits, and that the original Heavy slot layout would be reflected in Minmatar/Gallente/Caldari versions...
Bah. Doesn't matter much, I guess, since we aren't getting them until SOONGäó.
Time to totally rethink my play style. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
219
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:26:00 -
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The only way heavies can score is in combat, either with assists or kills, but if they lower the damage of what CCP passes of as a Heavy machine gun then it's be dealing less than half damage of an AR, and less damage per hit than an SMG.
Why would I go a weapon with bad range and damage, as well as be super slow? may as well take an AR over an HMG since it does the job better. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:36:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Seriously, they're complaining about SS being taken out of the game, even though they knew it was never meant to be in the game to begin with.
Disappearing bullets happen in this game specifically because SS was a planned skill.
How little you know. |
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undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
355
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:54:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:I'm tired of you guys. You have ridiculous amounts of HP, yet are crying. Stop relying on the HMG as a crutch. The Heavy is a monster in it's class. In Uprising you've been given more HP.
The HMG was OP at a high range. When it can destroy you from up on top of the mid platform on the 4 point map, its fine.
The ONLY buff you needed was a module slot in the prototype and maybe advanced tiers.
Honestly, ask any infantry player, and they will tell you, that a Heavy is the most annoying class to face. Of course proto duvolles will kill you as range. Of course you will destroy them within 15 m.
Heavy's will never be as strong as they once were. You guys mulched down everyone when people were in the early stages. Now you're crying cause they hurt back.
Also, 17-5 with Heavy and Gek. Type 2 all standard, killing Proto's like it's nothing. Lol so mad! were mad right guys? look at this post. I got a good question for you icy. Do you play heavy? 2 days ago i skilled into a type 2 standard assult class with 413 sheilds and a gek with no sharpshooter, damage mods, or profficentcy and that suit and class is the monster, i cant belive how good you assult classes have it its ****** easy mode OP. Stop your crying about heavys being good enough already their not compared to upper tier assult/logi suits. The biggist thing that seperates the classes are the skill levels. I go very many kills and deaths as a heavy every game. ppl know. Now this assult suit? this standard assult, this is the ****. I hardly everrr die. Ever! and the gek is so crazy in any situation after playing as both its plain to see the assult suit and AR is simply better. Period. I understand why this game ONLY promotes assults and nerfs everything else EVERY new build. Because the only class you should be playing is assult LOLOLOL basing your opinion on Pubs Come up against me or any decent player and say AR is easymode. Heavies are not slayers. It will never happen... ever. Your role is to hold down objectives with support. You do it better than any other class. Of course the Assault role is going to be better at running and gunning because that is our role.
Your easy mode bro..... 1v1 militia heavy with ONLY knives crouched with sampson armor plates.... 200 mill NOW!
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Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.04 17:59:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote: However, even a militia Heavy can hold off a point against up to 3 guys on his own.
What game are you playing? Can I play too? My Type-II will get squashed by two guys running GEKs. Even In a 1v1 I will take enough damage to my armor that I will be crippled for the next battle. Even a derp with a militia assault rifle can do significant damage. especially from range. "Well don't engage them from range, duh" you may be thinking. Believe me we try. But imagine your suit only moves half as fast as your current one. Now imagine that whenever you're out in the open, EVERYONE shoots at you and you can't slow down to shoot back then you will die strafing because your hitbox is bigger than the broad side of a barn. Now imagine that in most maps there is little cover for traversing the map, if you get in a vehicle you will likely get swarm'd, and if you play smart and stay in one area and your team sucks you will be the last one left and just get swarmed. We literally have it the worst out of all the classes in this build, and its going to be even worse next build.
Seriously, CCP took a big steaming **** on heavies in uprising. Made our type-2's slower, and made our weapons even crappier than they already were. If you can't see that then I highly recommend you trying to play a heavy and see how well you do. It's harder than it looks, the rewards are smaller, and the risks are greater. At least they equalized the cost but that's not going to make it any better. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.04 20:32:00 -
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Locked as ranting.
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