Seriously CCP? You had to listen to all the QQing AR users? I didn't even plan to use the heavy come Uprising, but that's just not right Goodluck fatties, you're going to need it.

lol HMG got nerfed in dmg wtf lol. It already got nerfed in dmg once. But yet again.. Well I'm going scout next build anyway. I hope its at least still useful...

Boundless is Gunna do like 14 dmg now watch lol

I wish we could hear some reasoning from CCP on why they thing these things need the changes they make.

RIP Heavy Machine Gun.

As if staying competitive with a proto suit with 1 high slot was not hard enough. We just got another slap in the face. Thanks CCP for turning Heavy's into the most obsolete and expensive class in the game.

The price got dropped down to AR price

I agree that having your class nerfed repeatedly would suck, but goddamn, the QQ here is some epic ****.

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Seriously wait for the patch to come before you QQ. Between AR purists, Heavies, and Tankers there's enough tears here to fill up a swimming pool.

Guess it just depends on how much the damage is reduced. If its 1 damage than we can still manage, 2 is more that a 10% reduction to our top tier weapon damage. I guess we will have to see what skills are changed or added regarding the HMG to see if they will still be a viable option. I bet I can find a way to make it work.


I wonder what the CPM's make of this. I wish we could hear some reasoning from CCP on why they think these things need the changes they make. But just because they nerf something now, doesnt mean they wont buff it in the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6i9BsYwspo

Seriously wait for the patch to come before you QQ. Between AR purists, Heavies, and Tankers there's enough tears here to fill up a swimming pool.

It's not the nerf that bugs me, its the reason for the nerf. It's pretty obvious this only happened because enough Assault players QQed that they couldn't solo the entire game and CCP lacked the backbone to to tell them to STFU. This sets a horrible precedent and shows that all it takes to get results is a whole lot of QQ.

Unless CCP would like to come in and offer us the "real" reason the HMG was in need of a nerf. Man, that Amarr Logi looks better and better each day.

Why do all these heavy tears taste like bacon grease?

This is me licking the tears of your greasy face>

This is you crying.>

HTFU fatties.

HTFU

Don't forget goodbye Marauder tanks....
Militia swarms can't kill it? THEY ARE SO OP GOSH NERF THEM

Why do all these heavy tears taste like bacon grease?

This is me licking the tears of your greasy face>

This is you crying.>

HTFU fatties.

It's not 'goodbye marauder tanks' they have been TEMP removed for re-work.

lol, w/e Crmson Douche, you got what you wanted, but know that we shall be coming for your AR next.

RIP Heavy Machine Gun.

As if staying competitive with a proto suit with 1 high slot was not hard enough. We just got another slap in the face. Thanks CCP for turning Heavy's into the most obsolete and expensive class in the game.

Sloth tears are especially delicious.

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Everybody take a deep breath. Let's see how this all shakes out before drowning each other in tears.

They aren't expensive anymore. The HMG and Heavy suit now cost the same as an AR and Assault suit of the same meta level. A Heavy can easily be cheaper than an Assault, now. (Though equipment is getting cheaper, too.)

Sniper at long range>AR
Lazors at range>AR
Shotgun at close range>AR
Scrambler rifle?>AR

I am going to be 2 shotting heavies with a scrambler rifle anyways. Headshots ftw. So yeah go ahead and qq about the weapon that is countered by everything with a pulse. That's fine by me.

Sloth tears are especially delicious.

Heavy damage and range has been decreased, and hp has been increased. This makes me think that CCP is trying to make the heavy a short to mid range damage absorber that suppresses/disperses the enemy and creates area denial.

I'm not in favor or against these changes, but just want to point out where I think CCP is trying to take the heavy.

hp has been increased.

Sniper at long range>AR
Lazors at range>AR
Shotgun at close range>AR
Scrambler rifle?>AR

I am going to be 2 shotting heavies with a scrambler rifle anyways. Headshots ftw. So yeah go ahead and qq about the weapon that is countered by everything with a pulse. That's fine by me.

Sloth tears are especially delicious.

What if its one point of damage?
Seriously people, until you have the numbers, STFU.

Ive destroyed laser rifles, snipers, and shotguns using the AR and normally at their preferred range the only one I haven't destroyed at their preferred range are snipers and even then Ive taken face fulls of sniper shots and not been dropped when i was moving up to put them down.

AR>everything.

Heavy damage and range has been decreased, and hp has been increased. This makes me think that CCP is trying to make the heavy a short to mid range damage absorber that suppresses/disperses the enemy and creates area denial.

I'm not in favor or against these changes, but just want to point out where I think CCP is trying to take the heavy in terms of its primary role.

50 points don't count for squat, if they wanted to buff it then they should have increased it's speed a little.

What if its one point of damage?
Seriously people, until you have the numbers, STFU.

Please realize that 1 point if damage on a hmg is not ythe same as an AR. 1/16.=~6%. I point on an AR is 1/33 (sorry I'm unfamiliar with AR base damage) =~ 3%. Relatively twice as big of a nerf. 1.5 gives us roughly a 10% nerf. Anything over that brings our proto weapons down vbelow what the base hmg was before.

Go down from 533 dps to 500 dps with standard HMG.
Considering Exile AR is on the border of 390 DPS....

Don't forget that quite a few HMG rounds miss their target, plus the efficiency of the HMG drops quickly. AR at mid range can kill with about 20 or 30 rounds, HMG takes 120-180.

As of this current build, I get killed by HMGs outside of my AR's maximum range.

they were also made cheaper, same price tag as ARs.

The cover tops tanks were temporarilly removed too.

So where are they?