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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:06:00 -
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Seriously CCP? You had to listen to all the QQing AR users? I didn't even plan to use the heavy come Uprising, but that's just not right Goodluck fatties, you're going to need it. |
LeCuch
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:07:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Seriously CCP? You had to listen to all the QQing AR users? I didn't even plan to use the heavy come Uprising, but that's just not right Goodluck fatties, you're going to need it. Don't forget goodbye Marauder tanks.... Militia swarms can't kill it? THEY ARE SO OP GOSH NERF THEM |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
513
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:09:00 -
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lol HMG got nerfed in dmg wtf lol. It already got nerfed in dmg once. But yet again.. Well I'm going scout next build anyway. I hope its at least still useful...
Boundless is Gunna do like 14 dmg now watch lol |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
221
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:12:00 -
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I saw the topic and couldn't believe my eyes. I was like "No way!" so I checked the patch notes again. CCP, you are officially full of ****. No new suits, a nerfed gun is nerfed (yet again) into complete uselessness, and plenty of new weapons for other players to destroy us with. Go to hell. |
PAs Capone
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:13:00 -
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Guess it just depends on how much the damage is reduced. If its 1 damage than we can still manage, 2 is more that a 10% reduction to our top tier weapon damage. I guess we will have to see what skills are changed or added regarding the HMG to see if they will still be a viable option. I bet I can find a way to make it work.
I wonder what the CPM's make of this. I wish we could hear some reasoning from CCP on why they think these things need the changes they make. But just because they nerf something now, doesnt mean they wont buff it in the future. |
Chesty Ranger
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:15:00 -
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RIP Heavy Machine Gun.
As if staying competitive with a proto suit with 1 high slot was not hard enough. We just got another slap in the face. Thanks CCP for turning Heavy's into the most obsolete and expensive class in the game.
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XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:16:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:lol HMG got nerfed in dmg wtf lol. It already got nerfed in dmg once. But yet again.. Well I'm going scout next build anyway. I hope its at least still useful...
Boundless is Gunna do like 14 dmg now watch lol
Honestly I dont think the DPS should have gotten nerfed. Range I am good with redusing, by taking the sharpshooter skill away. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:16:00 -
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PAs Capone wrote:I wish we could hear some reasoning from CCP on why they thing these things need the changes they make. Agreed. |
LeCuch
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:17:00 -
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Chesty Ranger wrote:RIP Heavy Machine Gun.
As if staying competitive with a proto suit with 1 high slot was not hard enough. We just got another slap in the face. Thanks CCP for turning Heavy's into the most obsolete and expensive class in the game.
The price got dropped down to AR price |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
285
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:18:00 -
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LeCuch wrote:Chesty Ranger wrote:RIP Heavy Machine Gun.
As if staying competitive with a proto suit with 1 high slot was not hard enough. We just got another slap in the face. Thanks CCP for turning Heavy's into the most obsolete and expensive class in the game.
The price got dropped down to AR price yup |
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:18:00 -
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It's okay though guys, because heavies got buffed by a whole 75 EHP *with passive skills |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:21:00 -
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What I can't figure out is why they left the ******* gun in the game at all. GTFO CCP |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
174
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:24:00 -
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Does seem a tad overkill nerfing dam and range hopefully its a very small nerf, DUST wouldnt be the same without my chubby friends. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
139
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:27:00 -
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The posts in this thread are golden.
I agree that having your class nerfed repeatedly would suck, but goddamn, the QQ here is some epic ****.
lol GTFO CCP lol, I am sure they are going to get out of their own game lol. |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
108
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:29:00 -
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All heavies should switch to logi. That is what I'm running next build. It is clear that CCP thinks the heavy should only sit in one spot and hope someone walk in range.
Note: In range is 10-15 meters. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:31:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6i9BsYwspo
Seriously wait for the patch to come before you QQ. Between AR purists, Heavies, and Tankers there's enough tears here to fill up a swimming pool. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:32:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote: I agree that having your class nerfed repeatedly would suck, but goddamn, the QQ here is some epic ****.
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It's not the nerf that bugs me, its the reason for the nerf. It's pretty obvious this only happened because enough Assault players QQed that they couldn't solo the entire game and CCP lacked the backbone to to tell them to STFU. This sets a horrible precedent and shows that all it takes to get results is a whole lot of QQ.
Unless CCP would like to come in and offer us the "real" reason the HMG was in need of a nerf. Man, that Amarr Logi looks better and better each day.
Justin Tymes wrote:
Seriously wait for the patch to come before you QQ. Between AR purists, Heavies, and Tankers there's enough tears here to fill up a swimming pool.
Yeah... no, staying quiet is the exact reason these things happen.
It started as "heavies are OP", then once everyone realized the protosuit was garbage "heavies are just fine", and now all we have is "QQ more scrubs". |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:34:00 -
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PAs Capone wrote:Guess it just depends on how much the damage is reduced. If its 1 damage than we can still manage, 2 is more that a 10% reduction to our top tier weapon damage. I guess we will have to see what skills are changed or added regarding the HMG to see if they will still be a viable option. I bet I can find a way to make it work.
I wonder what the CPM's make of this. I wish we could hear some reasoning from CCP on why they think these things need the changes they make. But just because they nerf something now, doesnt mean they wont buff it in the future.
it's CCP, i doubt the proto will do more then 10 damage a shot |
100 proof
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:35:00 -
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HEY CCP GO "KITTEN YOURSELF!!! i spend $40 hard earned dollars a month on this game UNTIL TODAY.. from this point on i will tell ppl dust 514 is a rip off even though its free.. do me favor n& stick to PC games and space ships.. im out...
FYI: you ppl should be ashamed of yourselves.. nerfing tanks and heavies to useless.. you ppl do realize thats the only things that separated this FPS from any other.. now you have a broken half ass CoD.. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
476
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:36:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6i9BsYwspo
Seriously wait for the patch to come before you QQ. Between AR purists, Heavies, and Tankers there's enough tears here to fill up a swimming pool.
try taking this **** EVERY SINGLE BUILD then you can be sarcastic.
my play style gets nerfed every 3 months or so |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
139
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:36:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: I agree that having your class nerfed repeatedly would suck, but goddamn, the QQ here is some epic ****.
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It's not the nerf that bugs me, its the reason for the nerf. It's pretty obvious this only happened because enough Assault players QQed that they couldn't solo the entire game and CCP lacked the backbone to to tell them to STFU. This sets a horrible precedent and shows that all it takes to get results is a whole lot of QQ. Unless CCP would like to come in and offer us the "real" reason the HMG was in need of a nerf. Man, that Amarr Logi looks better and better each day.
Yeah, AR should be a good generalist weapon, though it shouldn't be the end-all-be-all of weapons in the game. We should all make a pact to QQ about ARs so bad during the Uprising build that in the build following Uprising they get nerfed into actual nerf guns.
Actually, the forums have enough QQ, lets still make the pact, but do it through logic and reasoning. We'll get trolled by the AR monkeys, though we can always shame them. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
961
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:39:00 -
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Feel for the Fat bros :/ The nerf was not needed, CCP need to just give this **** up, hitting things with a hammer hoping it'll work out okay isn't working. AR514 woo |
Crimson Moon V
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:45:00 -
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Why do all these heavy tears taste like bacon grease?
This is me licking the tears of your greasy face>
This is you crying.>
HTFU fatties. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:46:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Why do all these heavy tears taste like bacon grease? This is me licking the tears of your greasy face> This is you crying.> HTFU fatties. lol, w/e Crmson Douche, you got what you wanted, but know that we shall be coming for your AR next.
That's actually funny, coming from the single biggest "heavies are OP" QQer on the forums |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
825
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:49:00 -
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LeCuch wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Seriously CCP? You had to listen to all the QQing AR users? I didn't even plan to use the heavy come Uprising, but that's just not right Goodluck fatties, you're going to need it. Don't forget goodbye Marauder tanks.... Militia swarms can't kill it? THEY ARE SO OP GOSH NERF THEM It's not 'goodbye marauder tanks' they have been TEMP removed for re-work. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
151
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:51:00 -
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The ar wont shoot across the map thanks to there being no SS anymore at least. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3812
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:52:00 -
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Dunno when I used it, it felt just as powerful before, then again many wepaons have had the overall damage reduced because of weaponry nerf. |
Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
109
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:53:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Why do all these heavy tears taste like bacon grease? This is me licking the tears of your greasy face> This is you crying.> HTFU fatties.
CRIMSON WON HAHAHAHA |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:54:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:LeCuch wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Seriously CCP? You had to listen to all the QQing AR users? I didn't even plan to use the heavy come Uprising, but that's just not right Goodluck fatties, you're going to need it. Don't forget goodbye Marauder tanks.... Militia swarms can't kill it? THEY ARE SO OP GOSH NERF THEM It's not 'goodbye marauder tanks' they have been TEMP removed for re-work. The cover tops tanks were temporarilly removed too.
So where are they? |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
419
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:54:00 -
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Like Crimson I so want to say HTFU for this whole thing since thats all you guys did when the AR was nerfed badly with having awful ADS sights and you guys all said you didnt care and to HTFU......
But unfortunately I am more reasonable than you lot are so the truth is......both together is probably a little much. I would have waited to see if the removal of the SS ability was enough to balance out the HMG......and if it didnt then a slight range nerf but both range and dmg does seem to be a bit much.
That said those post I read complaining about unfair costs shows that ppl obviously have no readin comprehension or they didnt read it at all. Prices for all proto suits are the same and prices for all weapons of the same lvl are the same now. That means heavies dont spend any more for their stuff than assaults do but they get a bonus of having tons of HP to start with while assaults start with ~300-350 HP heavies start with 405/405 (i believe) so I have a hard time giving you a ton of sympathy here.
Besides from what it looks like ARs have plenty to complain about too. Scrambs completely overwhelm the AR. It has longer range, better reload speed, same fire rate, higher dmg, better accuracy and comes with a RDS standard. If the AR has not kept its prof ability of getting increased dmg then its probably gone (wont know until build has dropped but this is based on current info). |
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